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PZC Minutes 051695RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES May 16, 1995 The regular meeting of the Town of Avon Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order by Chairman Jack Hunn at 7:30 PM, May 16, 1995 in the Council Chambers, Avon Municipal Building, 400 Benchmark Road, Avon, Colorado. All members present. Members Present: Jack Hunn, Beth Stanley, Henry Vest, Rhoda Schneiderman, Bill Sargis, Buz Reynolds, Sue Railton Staff Present: Mike Matzko, Director of Community Development, Sheila Kremski, Recording Secretary CONSENT AGENDA The following items were scheduled on the Amended Consent Agenda: 1. Approval of May 2, 1995, Revised Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes. 2. Tract G, Block 2, Benchmark at Beaver Creek Subdivision, Library Sign. 3. Lot 56, Block 2, Benchmark at Beaver Creek Subdivision, Sign. 4. Lot 1, Riverside Subdivision, Retaining Wall. Mike Matzko described the Consent Agenda. Henry Vest moved to approve the consent agenda. Seconded by Sue Railton and the motion unanimously carried. CONCEPTUAL REVIEW CONTINUED Lot 7, Block 4, Wildridge Subdivision Vulpe/Vanderelde Folsen Annexation Complex Lot 85, Block 4, Wildridge Subdivision Single Family Residence Lots 45/46, Block 2 Benchmark at Beaver Creek Subdivision Falcon Point II Planning & Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes 2 May 16, 1995 FINAL DESIGN REVIEW Lot 79, Block 1, Wildridge Subdivision Six-Plex Cohen Mike Matzko stated this is a resubmittal of a composite (Masonite) siding material for an otherwise approved project. The applicant, Mr. Jeff Cohen, was denied use of the siding material at the April 4, 1995 P&Z meeting. Mr. Cohen then appealed the Commission's ruling to the Town Council. Upon hearing that Mr. Cohen had not been present at the P&Z meeting where the siding material was denied, Council remanded the matter to P&Z to re -hear, with Mr. Cohen present. Staff has no specific comment on this matter. The applicant Mr. Cohen was present. Mr. Cohen explained he appealed to Council because when he received the letter of denial it read that his only other alternative was to appeal to Council. Mr. Cohen preferred all along to address the P&Z Commission directly. Mr. Cohen does not agree with the decision for many reasons which he explained in a letter addressed to Council. He was not present at the P&Z meeting for the siding approval since he thought it was an informal review by the Commission and not a formal process. The second point in the letter was that the hardboard siding product proposed was and is being used on Wildridge projects. Mr. Cohen feels that the Commission in the past have found in their hearts to approve this siding. The cost of the hardboard siding vs. the wood siding was an issue and Mr. Cohen feels the proposed hardboard is a much better product than a wood cedar product. Bill Sargis expressed he does not have a problem with the look of the product, the concern is the look of the product a year from now. Bill feels wood holds up much better. Buz Reynolds questioned if the siding would be butt jointed or vertical -butt jointed. Mr. Cohen stated they do a lap joint. Buz Reynolds explained this product is a little different than other products the Commission has seen. Much of what is seen in Wildridge is a different product which is highly effected by moisture. The product proposed is stronger and better and if installed correctly will not allow the moisture to get behind it. Rhoda Schneiderman felt the look was more than wood making it not as authentic. Rhoda concern was that the ends should be primed when cut and before their put together and in Wildridge, buildings shift and you may end up with gaps which allow the moisture to creep in. Mr. Cohen has never put up siding where they have butt jointed the joints. This is Mr. Cohen's first spec project and he is trying to stay competitive with his competition. Planning & Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes 3 May 16, 1995 Lot 79. Block 1, Wildridge Subdivision Siding (Con 't) Chairperson Hunn asked staff if it has confirmed if those two projects in Wildridge with the same siding have been approved and if their proposing the same or a similar product. Chairperson Hunn explained the way the regulations read they do not address this product but it asks the Commission to make sure that high quality durable low maintenance building materials are used. If you relate quality to price you do not know if this is a higher quality than wood. Chairperson Hunn is hearing the applicants argument that the siding is comparable or better than wood. At the first presentation of this product Chairperson Hunn was skeptical that an experiment was being conducted at the expense of whoever bought those homes and there has been mixed reviews on this. Some products have held up very well and some have not and it would be interesting to find out which project have not and understand why to help applicants to use the products that are more successful. Chairperson Hunn requested staff to check on the homes mentioned by the applicant that are using a similar siding. Staff will check into. The applicant made a comment about the regulations. When the whole process was started the applicant went to the Community Development Office and received the package for DRB criteria. Mr. Cohen thought he was following that criteria as close as possible which did not disallow this type of product. Since that time the applicant has discussed with Mike Matzko and he has brought to his attention many years ago the original Wildridge DRB criteria and in it, it does not allow hard board siding. The applicant asked how does an owner or builder get a hold of this old Wildridge Criteria. He brought it up at Council and they explained it was the applicants responsibility to find it, and the only way to find it is to go to the county. Chairperson Hunn explained that the title company makes reference to it in the title report subject to that document they tell you what page it is registered under at the county. The applicant pointed out that the only other way to find it is to go to the county. Mr. Cohen stated that the Commission is the governing body and if, as a home owner, he has to go around the Commission to try and find it, it makes it difficult. Rhoda Schneiderman pointed out that the Commission has not gone by the Wildridge Covenance in many years. Chairperson Hunn stated they are valid and it is up to individuals to uphold them and the Commission does not recognize them as a governing document for review. Planning & Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes May 16, 1995 Lot 79, Block 1, Wildridge Subdivision Siding _(Con 't) Bill Sargis moved to approve Lot 79, Block 1, Wildridge Subdivision, Siding Approval with the following conditions: CONDITIONS: 1. No butt joints; 2. Any joint is primed on the edges to enforce workmanship. Seconded by Sue Railton. Motion unanimously carries. Lot 45 Block 1 Wildridye Subdivision Final Design Review Mike Matzko stated the project is a west -facing, gently sloping lot near the intersection of Fox Lane and Saddle Ridge Loop. The native vegetation is relatively undisturbed. The project is a full -log single family home, with stucco lower level siding, and an asphalt shingle roof. The house is placed to minimize site disturbance and facilitate driveway access. Native plant materials are proposed for landscaping. Staff recommends approval. Michael Corral was present as applicant and owner. He stated they went with the zero- scape concept. No irrigation system, just manually watered. The colors of the flue coming out the roof can be either a brownish or black and either are acceptable to the applicant. The style of the shingle was shown to the Commission. Chairperson Hunn question the applicant about the dormer. Mr. Corral explained that by putting a false dormer on from the standpoint of the value of the home, it would not increase it. Putting in a small window size dormer would make it look worse. Buz Reynolds asked the applicant to install the dormer to enhance the way adjacent properties saw the structure and not to increase the cost of the project. The applicant insists that he must adhere to a budget. Rhoda Schneiderman suggested that as an alternative to a dormer is to put a few more larger cotton woods on the east side. Henry Vest requested the applicants lighting strategy. The applicant replied there will be porch lights on the front and on the front corners of the garage area. Planning & Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes May 16, 1995 Lot 45, Block 1, Wildridge Subdivision Final Design Review (Con 't) Rhoda Schneiderman moved to approve Lot 45, Block 1, Wildridge Subdivision, Final Design Review with the following condition: CONDITION: 1. Two additional cotton wood trees be placed on the east side of the building. Seconded by Bill Sargis. Motion carries. Buz Reynolds nay. Lot 104A, Block 1, Wildridge Subdivision Deck Addition Mike Matzko stated the project is a deck attached to the ground floor of the north side of an existing duplex. The materials and color would match the existing upper-level deck. The proposed design appears to be compatible with the existing review. Staff recommends approval. The owner and applicant, Susan Nadelman, was present. Bill Sargis questioned if the south stairway on the south-west elevation is different than in the picture. The applicant stated they would like to add a deck to the preexisting structure and change to 2 X 8 for the joists per approval with Al Booth the Avon Building Inspector. Sue Railton asked if eventually the applicant would put the other stairway in. The applicant replied they would like to have that as an option but at this point they want the deck for the summer. Another option would be a door to the deck landing in the future. Bill Sargis questioned where did the window go. The applicant explained that the existing is different from the original plans. This is a duplex that was patterned after the architects personal residence and the contractor bought it as his own and made some modifications. Henry Vest asked why the applicant would want to put a deck where her yard was. The applicant explained that she has young children and felt they would have more safety with a deck. Planning & Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes May 16, 1995 Lot 104A Block 1 Wildridge Subdivision Deck Addition (Con 't) Chairperson Hunn has no problem with the deck and would serve to hide some of the platforming of the dirt that was done with the original construction that he is concerned about. Chairperson Hunn commented on the process and the developer of this project that a lot of changes were made that our process did not catch. The house is not the color, grading, and landscaping that was approved and the purchasers of these homes have no responsibility of the developer. Hopefully in the future this can be avoided. The applicant commented on the original color that was approved was different than that was originally painted. The applicant does remember that the town did come out to the site at the time of construction and have the developer repaint the approved color. The applicant asked the Commission what color they would prefer. The Commission preferred not to see anymore dark green in terms of the railing. The skirt needs to go green. She could match the siding or the stucco color. All railing the same color. Bill Sargis moved to approve Lot 104A, Block 1, Wildridge Subdivision, Final Design Review with the following condition: CONDITION: 1. The new deck railing be painted to match the existing stucco as well as the second floor existing deck be repainted to match the existing stucco color. Seconded by Sue Railton. Motion unanimously carries. Lots 46/47, Block 1, Benchmark at Beaver Creek Subdivision Dormer Mike Matzko stated this project is a dormer addition at the rear of the existing Chambertine Building, and similar to several dormers installed on adjacent units. The structure's roofing, siding and window treatment will match the existing building materials. Staff recommends approval. The applicant was not present. Mike Matzko asked the Commission if staff approval would be more appropriate for this type of request in the future. The Commission felt that in the future staff approval would be sufficient. Chairperson Hunn suggested the applicant needs the Condominium Association approval. Planning & Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes May 1.6, 1995 Lots 46/47, Block 1, Benchmark at Beaver Creek Subdivision, Dormer, (Con.'!) Buz Reyonlds moved to approve Lots 46/47, Block 1, Benchmark at Beaver Creek Subdivision, Dormer. Bill Sargis seconded. Motion unanimously carries. Lot 48, Block 1, Benchmark at Beaver Creek Subdivision, Deck Mike Matzko stated the project is a deck addition to an existing building. The applicant has included sketches of the elevation and plan reviews of the proposed deck. Staff recommends approval. The applicant was not present. Rhoda Schneiderman asked staff the size of the support posts. Staff replied 6 x 6. Rhoda Schneiderman moved to approve Lot 48, Block 1, Benchmark at Beaver Creek Subdivision, Deck. Bill Sargis seconded. Motion unanimously carries. Lot 36, Block 1, Wildridge Subdivision, Modification Mike Matzko stated this project is the addition of a window on an existing duplex. The applicant has presented two designs, the smaller window allows the attached shed roof line extension to remain in place, the larger window would require its removal. Staff recommends either design. The applicant, Gary Feldman, was present. The applicant would prefer to remove the eve, the second option. The door is recessed over 8 feet. Rhoda Schneiderman moved to approve Lot 36, Block 1, Wildridge Subdivision, Modification with the selection of option 2, removal of the eve and installation of the larger window. Seconded by Buz Reynolds. Motion unanimously carries. Planning & Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes May 16, 1995 Tract N, Block 3, Benchmark at Beaver Creek Subdivision Upper Eagle Valley Mike Matzko stated this is a modification of the existing UEV Sanitation District Water Treatment Facility (WWTF). The project includes 13,000 s.f. of additional building area, which includes additional treatment capacity. The District has discussed this project with the Town during the past year, and presented initial plans to Town Council. The project is driven by the need for additional capacity and process effectiveness. Building materials, style and color are consistent with the existing building. Staff recommends approval. The applicant was represented by Mike Pecos, UEV, and Jim Risk of the engineering firm. Jim explained that a presentation was given to the Town Council back on April 11, 1995. The project includes improvements to the both the Avon Plant and the Squaw Creek Plant. The driving force are new regulations put out by the EPA. The district is upgrading there process. Chairperson Hunn inquired about the landscaping proposed. The applicant replied they are using the existing. The Commission asked if the applicant was exempt from building permit fees. Staff replied no. Rhoda Schneiderman moved to approve Tract N, Block 3, Benchmark at Beaver Creek Subdivision, Upper Eagle Valley. Seconded by Henry Vest. Motion unanimously carries. OTHER BUSINESS 1) Staff asked the Commission since the first Tuesday in July falls on the 4th of July, does the Commission want to cancel and or reschedule. The Commission agreed to cancel the meeting therefore having one meeting in July. 2) Buz Reynolds would like to bring to the Councils attention that the P&Z has not had a raise since 1978. Could staff bring this to the attention of the Council. Planning & Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes May 16, 1995 Other Business (Con.'t) 3) Mike Matzko mentioned sign enforcement. The Columbine Bakery Sign was given an extension by the Commission. Should this be enforced. The Commission felt it was a matter of principle and should be enforced. 4) The Commission noted Terry Allen's house is being worked on and it looks as if someone is living in the house. 5) Buz Reynolds felt garbage control was more important than erosion control due to job sites have material blown everywhere. 6) Sue Railton made staff aware of the house on Eaglebend Drive that has not had any work done on it since before Christmas, Doug Guire's house. 7) Rhoda Schneiderman asked the Commission and staff about field trips to other communities allowing the Commission to make better decisions for the Town. 8) Staff announced to the Commission that a new Planner was hired, Mrs. Griffith. She begins June 14, 1995. I Planning & Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes 10 May 16, 1995 ADJOURNMENT Meeting adjourned at 10:00 PM. Respectfully submitted, JLL. 1;�Itlt�L Sheila Kremski Recording Secretary Commission Approval B. Sargis S. Railton - R. Schneiderman A. Reynolds B. Stanley H. Vest J. Hum Date , S