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I. Call to Order (5:OOpm)
Town of Avon Planning & Zoning Commission
Meeting Minutes for September 7, 2010
Avon Town Council Chambers
The meeting was called to order at 5:04pm.
II. Roll Call
All Commissioners were present wit
III. Additions & Amendments to the Agenda
IV. Conflicts of Interest
V. Consent Agenda
Meetings are open to the public
Avon Municipal Building / One Lake Street
• Approval of the August 17, 2010 Meeting Minutes
Commissioner Prince moved to approve the minutes, as amended. Commissioner
Anderson seconded the motion and the motion passed with a 6-0 vote. Commissioner
Green abstained due to his absence from the August 17, 2010 meeting.
VI. Master Sign Programs
Seasons at Avon
Property Location: Lot 62/63, Block 2, Benchmark at Beaver Creek Subdivision / 137
Benchmark Road
Applicant/ Owner: Matthew Trasen, Avon Partners ll, LLC
Description: Review of anew Master Sign Program for the Seasons building consistent with
the recent exterior modifications to the structure and site.
Discussion: Jared Barnes highlighted the staff report, specifically the discrepancies between
the submitted sign program and both the West Town Center Investment Plan and the Sign
Code requirements. Jared explained the rationale for Staff's recommendation (approval,
with conditions) to the Commission.
The chairman opened the meeting for Commissioner questions of Staff.
Commissioner Struve asked what implications the West Town Center District Investment
Plan are on this application. Jared responded that the property is located within the district
boundaries and is therefore subject to the guidelines including signage regulations. The
plan is meant to guide all development in this district.
Commissioner Green asked if Staff was clear on what type of sign the tenant reverse pan -
channel was. Staff replied yes. Matt Trasen explained that the reverse pan -channel
lettering does not actually light the individual letters, it only halo backlights the letters.
Commissioner Green wanted to know If Staff was comfortable with this submittal and the
types of signs included with the new MSP. Jared responded in the affirmative, citing
reasons including the proposed variation sign types, colors and designs.
Commissioner Prince questioned what is in the West Town Center Plan regarding 2nd level
tenant signage. Jared responded that there is nothing specifically prohibiting second level
sings in the West Town Center District Investment Plan; rather, Staffs comments and
recommendation with regard to eliminating second level signage is a matter of consistency
with other recently approved sign programs approved in Town.
Commissioner Goulding requested clarification on a submittal requirement for this
application, as conditioned from the previously approved design application. Did the
condition state that the program must be approved, or only submitted? Matt Gannett stated
the condition requires approval of a sign program.
Commissioner Goulding asked whether more or less light would be experienced with, the
proposed tenant signs compared to an indirect, exterior lit sign option.
Matt Trasen addressed the Commissioner's question and stated the second level on Main
Street is an important piece of the program. Mr. Trasen further explained that the second
level at each end of the building has separate entrances, and a separate tenant could
occupy those spaces as constructed. In terms of lighting, the main entrances on the north
entrance have goose -neck lights installed. Mr. Trasen commented on signs 11 and 12, and
explained that those signs were placed there in order to capture the presently significant
traffic around the building. He explained that sign 12 can be setback 10' and they have a
survey to verify this sign location.
Commissioner Patterson ran through the conditions of approval that Staff recommended with
the applicant. The applicant clarified that they would like to retain second level signage and
the ability to keep the monument sign, as proposed.
Commissioner Patterson was not overly concerned with second level signage.
Commissioner Green felt that there was not enough creativity built into the program. The
Commission had a discussion related to the second story signage proposed on the building.
Commissioner Patterson asked Staff if there would need to be any modification to the
program to allow for second level signage. Staff clarified the proposal includes such a
modification. Commissioner Patterson said the ground floor would house the tenants that
require signage and the second floor tenants would typically be less retail based and more
likely to be a CPA or attorney's office.
Commissioner Roubos felt that the east and west building mounted signs were huge and
redundant. She was content with the port cochere signs to identify the building as proposed.
Commissioner Green expressed concern that all of the tenant signs were to be surface
mounted signs. Looking through the West Town Center District Investment Plan there are
examples of 3D signs that might help to make for a cool main street. He also pointed out
that there was no allowance for any type of window signage in the program as proposed.
Again, Commissioner Green stated his desire to allow for creative signage, and to not
preclude it.
Commissioner Struve commended the applicant for taking a very difficult building and
making it look a lot better. He had no problem with the monument signs as long as they
were not in the setback. Commissioner Struve also was in agreement with the sign on
Benchmark as well.
Commissioner Goulding commented on the monument signs and asked if there is room for
more than six tenant signs on the monument signs. The applicant explained the nature of the
tenant panels and stated that they could possibly be on a rotating calendar for tenants if
there was not enough space. This was common with other properties the owner managed.
Commissioner Roubos asked if the monument signs were really appropriate, and expressed
concern with the possible result of over -signage.
Commissioner Goulding stated Signs E1 or E2 are not needed and inappropriate. He said
there seem to be plenty on the north and south sides of building and there is not a need for
these additional signs.
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Motion: Commissioner Green moved to approve the application with the following
conditions:
1. No individual tenant signage is permitted on the eastern monument sign (12). It must be
demonstrated that this sign is setback at least ten (10) feet from all property lines prior to
permit;
2. All first floor tenant signs be modified to remove the non -lit option as well as modify the
signage specifications to require external illumination;
3. Tenants that occupy both a first and second story unit shall only receive a first story sign;
4. Tenants that occupy a second story unit only shall receive a sign on the second story;
5. Revise the language for tenant signage to encourage three dimensional signs (i.e. blades
and/or dimensional creative signs) per E.10: General Sign Requirements of the West Town
Center Investment Plan. These signs shall be reviewed by the PZC and the Town may, at its
discretion, waive application fees for review.; and
6. Revise the MSP amendment to remove building identifications signs E1 and E2.
And with the following finding:
1. The reverse pan channel letters meet the intent of externally illuminated criteria within section
EA 0: General Sign Requirements of the West Town Center Investment Plan.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Struve. The motion passed with a 7-0 vote.
VII. Special Review Use
Mountain Montessori School
Property Location: Lot 22, Block 1, Benchmark at Beaver Creek Subdivision / 77 Metcalf Rd
Applicant: Martha Teien / Owner: BBG Holding Corporation
Description: Review of an expired Special Review Use (SRU) Permit for the existing
Montessori preschool, located in a ground floor tenant space inside the commercial building
currently located on the subject property with an adjacent outdoor play area on the lot, to
continue operating the school.
Discussion: Jared Barnes highlighted the report and Staffs recommendation.
Commissioner Green commented that he was comfortable with the approval to be written
into perpetuity, but if ownership changes this must be re -reviewed. He felt that If conditions
don't change, then this would not need to be re -reviewed by the Planning and Zoning
Commission. Commissioner Patterson asked that there be an expiration date.
Commissioner Goulding said the drafted condition related to a re -review being triggered by a
complaint should be re -worded to "the town may re -review" the application if a complaint is
received.
Commissioner Patterson was more comfortable with replacing drafted condition number 2
with the previous condition from Resolution 04-23 that limited the timeframe of approval
since this was not a use by right.
Chris Evans, representing the ownership of the building, addressed the Commission with a
background of the use. Chris had a problem with condition number 2 as drafted. The state
will be policing the site to verify that it is a safe property. He felt that the approval should be
tied to the duration of ownership of "Mountain Montessori". He also said the first condition
should be eliminated.
Commissioner Green asked about the space -to -pupil ratio. Martha Teinen said that it is
permitted to be a minimum of 30 sq. ft. per pupil. Additionally, the outdoor space
requirement is 1,500 sq. ft. per 30 pupils. She stated that they have 4,500 sq. ft. and have
the ability but not intent to house 40 children in their two classrooms. The Commission
questioned how many employees they currently have. Martha responded that they currently
have 20 students, and they would never even try to accommodate 40 children.
The Chairman opened the public comment portion of the hearing. The written letter from
Roger Benedict supporting the application was noted. No other comments from the public
were received and the public comment portion of the meeting was closed.
Commissioner Patterson clarified that the reason he would like a timeframe on the approval
is because it is not a listed SRU in the IC zone district, and it was originally processed (and
later approved) based on an interpretation, by the Planning Director at the time, that the
subject use was similar enough to other allowed uses as an SRU in the IC district.
Motion: Commissioner Struve moved to approve Resolution No. 10-04 based on the findings
listed in the Staff report. He clarified that the conditional use shall be for Mountain
Montessori only, in accordance with TOA statues.
The motion was clarified to remove Martha's name from the resolution, and replace it with
Mountain Montessori in the first whereas statement.
Commissioner Struve stated that the use is subject to re -review after Ten (10) years from the
date of the meeting. He also recommended that the Town refund the $500 for processing
this application since the applicant attempted to contact Town Staff without success.
Commissioner Green discussed the motion and cited the Findings as listed in the Staff
report.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Green and all other Commissioners were in
agreement. The motion to approve Resolution 10-04, as amended, passed with a 7-0 vote.
VIII. Other Business
Discussion: The process by which an applicant can apply to construct two Single -Family
Residences on a Duplex Lot in Wildridge and criteria to allow for such a change of unit type.
Staff presented the memorandum to the Commission and received direction to draft criteria
for a duplex -split PUD and Subdivision application to be incorporated into the new Title T
Avon Development Code, and as contemplated in the memo and discussed during the
meeting.
IX. Adjourn
8:25pm
W. Todd Goulding / /
Chairper n
Secretary
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