PZC Minutes 091592RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
September 15, 1992
The regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission was held
on Septembe- 15, 1992, at 7:35 PM in the Town Council Chambers,
Avon Town Municipal Building, 400 Benchmark Rd., Avon, Colorado.
The meeting was called to order by Chairman John Perkins.
Members Present: John Perkins, Patti Dixon
Sue Railton, Jack Hunn
Rhoda Schneiderman, Henry Vest
Buz Reynolds
Staff Present: Rick Pylman, Director of
Community Development,
Charlette Pascuzzi, Recording
Secretary
Lot 18 Filing 1. EagIebend Subdivisions__Railton Duplexy F final
Design Review
Sue Railton stepped down as a voting member of the Commission, due
to a confli,:t of interest.
Rick Pylman stated that. the Railtons brought this duplex in
several months ago for a front setback variance. The variance was
granted, and the design presented at this time does tollow the
variance. There is a 1650 square foot unit and a 2900 square foot
unit on a duplex lot. Metal panel roof, 1 x 8 cedar siding,
stucco and moss rock shown as accent elements, metal clad
windows, and cedar trim are the materials to be used. The
applicant will provide a color board. A complete landscape and
irrigation plan has been provided.
Pylman stated that the only problem that staff saw during the
review is that Unit B shows a deck encroaching into the Metcalf
Ditch easement. Staff recommendation is to get approval from the
easement holder for the encroachment, or remove the encroaching
deck.
Pylman stated that, other than the encroachment into the easement,
the projec,+• is in total conformance with the zoning code. He
stated that the materials and design are compatible with the
neighborhood, the design is compatible with adjacent properties,
and the improvements work well with site topography.
Staff recommendation is for approval of this design review.
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Lot 18 Filing 1. Eaglebend, Subdivsion,_ Rai ItonDuplex_, ._Final
Design Review (cont)
John Railton stated the encroachment consists of some landscape
ties laid at grade on the ground level with some 2 x 6 redwood
decking sitting on top of it. He stated that he spoke to Norm
Wood about this and he suggested that he send him a copy of the
site plar along with a request for that encroachment. He stated
he would commit to either seeking the approval or removing the
deck.
D;scussion followed on the colors (roof - felt green, siding -
cinnamon, windows painted same as roof, stone walls - moss rock).
Discussion tollowed on the siding, the metal roof, the turrets,
the carport and its lighting, and the balance of site lighting.
"he chimney caps will be painted to match the roof. Discussion
followed on the landscaping.
Jack Hunn moved to grant final design approval to Lot 18, Filing
1, Eaglebend Suhdivision, as submitted.
Rhoda Schneiderman seconded.
After discussion, Jack Hunn amended his motion to include a
recommendation that the easement holder grant approval for the
encroachment into the easement.
Rhoda Schneiderman seconded the amendment and the motion carried
unanimously.
Sie Railton returned as a voting member of the Commission.
Lots 13/14 Block 1 Filing 1, Eaglebend__Subdivisiony_Des gn and
rnnctrunt.inn services. Zone ChangelConceptual_ Design Rewiew,
Rick Pylman stated that this application was tabled at the August
18, 1992 meeting. The request was to take the two duplex lots
and subdivide into two single families and one duplex lot. He
stated that instead of building the typical duplexes, the
applicant has come up with the idea to take the units on either
side as single families and take the unit in the middle, with a
carriage house and zone that as a duplex. Staff had a problem
calling this a duplex and the Commission agreed with it, although
the Commission generally did like the concept.
This proposal is basically just doing away with the lot line
between the two duplex lots and making it a multi -family lot zoned
for four units, building four single family homes and doing a type
of subdivision similar to what Mark Harrison did in Wildridge.
Staff is still not comfortable with this proposal. They are
really the same building that has been built in Eaglebend on
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16,000 square foot lots. There are two 16,000 square foot lots
that the applicant is trying to put four single family houses on
and Staff does not think it fits. Generally, in this concept,
units have been lost. Pylman stated that he thinks this is
pushing the fit of the typical type of development on that side of
the street. Staff probably wouldn't have a problem if it was
being rezoned to three single families. Staff would rather see
two duplexes, than this proposal. Pylman stated that there is a
public hearing required, and some criteria that is required when
making a decision. He reviewed the criteria.
Staff recommends denial of this application.
Dave Prater, of Design and Construction Services, stated that
they had changed roof pitches, done away with mirror images, and
tried to add different features on the outside of the buildings
and the elimination of the center lot line allowed increased space
between the sides of the units and the property lines and
decreased the space between the units. He stated that they feel
that they will be providing a better product to the community.
Chairman Perkins then opened the public hearing.
Chris Ekrem, owner of Lot 15, stated that she feels very strongly
that this is the best approach that could be taken for that land.
The three large homes would have a wonderful river front
opportunity. Also, the parking of this plan is so mucri beter.
t.
She approved of the carriage house, but would be happy
if were only three units. She stated that she felt that this is a
more desirable project for that site.
john Railton stated that he also felt that he finds himself having
more support for the idea of individual buildings, rather than two
more duplexes. It will add more variety to the street. It also
is probably more marketable. He is more sympathetic to the
concept than the architecture. This is where the program needs
some work_ He suggested moving the carriage house closer to the
street and maximizing the river frontage.
With no further public input, Chairman Perkins closed the public
hearing.
Discussion followed on the square footage of the four units.
especially the square footage of the carriage house, which the
Commission felt should be smaller than the other three units.
Discussion followed on the proposed setbacks and also the
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Lots 13/14 Filing 1 Eaglebend Subdivision,_ Desi�__And
_-__- __..: ,,,,,o rhannA1cnncantua1 Desiqn Review, Public
placements of the units on the property. The general consensus of
the Commission was that the applicant needs to consider
realignment of the units, and consider building a design that is
completely different than what has been built in the past. The
Commission was in agreement that they would like to have a site
visit, and asked the applicant to pin the locations of each unit,
so that they could better determine where each unit would be
located and how they would work with the site. It was suggested
that this application be tabled to allow the applicant to take the
Commission's comments and concerns and try to work out, a better
solution for this project. The applicant agreed that; he would
rather have the application tabled at this time. He requested
that it be tabled until the October 20, 1992 meeting.
Jack Hunn moved to table the zone change request until the October
20, 1992 meeting.
Henry Vest seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
ission Meeting
Patti Dixon moved to approve the minutes of the September 1, 1992
meeting as submitted. Rhoda Schneiderman seconded and the motion
carried unanimously.
Other Business
The Commission, at the September 1, 1992 meeting, approved a Home
Occupation, Special Review Use for Hector Montero, Lot 8, Block 1,
Wildridge Subdivision.
The Staff prepared Resolution 92-14, granting approval of the
Special Review Use, for Commission approval.
Rhoda Schneiderman moved to approve Resolution 92-14, Henry Vest
seconded, and the motion carried unanimously.
Lot 17 Block 1. Wildridqe _Subdivision Cliffrose Townhomes_,
Landscape Design Review
Rick Pylman
stated the'
the applicant submitted this
application
after the
agenda was
set and posted, therefore
it is being
presented at
this time.
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Lot 17 Block 1 Wildridge Subdi_v_i_sion�__Cl i_tfrose_ __ townhomes_,
Landscape Design Review, conte
This application was tabled at the September 1, 1992 meeting, to
allow the applicant to revise the landscape plan. Pylman stated
he now has a revised plan. He described the concerns that the
Commission had at the previous meeting and what the applicant has
provided to meet the Commission's concerns.
Considerable discussion followed on the proposed landscaping, and
the fact that there will be no sod, it is all natural vegetation.
Due to several conversations being conducted at the same time,
transcription is difficult, however, the sizes of the trees was
being discussed. Discussion followed on relocating some of the
landscaping down the hill somewhat. The Commission questioned the
amount of landscaping, and the applicant replied that there are 47
trees propo.ed for the site.
Henry Vest moved to approve the landscaping plan for Lot 17, Block
1, Wildridge Subdivision with the following conditions:
1. Add 6 dogwood bushes to the southwest section.
2. A minimum of 6' for the spruce trees.
3. A minimum of 2" caliper for the aspens.
4. A Wildflower/Hydro Seed mix be used.
5. Diversify the plan by moving some of the clumps away
from the building.
6. Narrow leaf, 2" minimum caliper cottonwoods.
Patti Dixon seconded.
The motion was amended to
applicant consider varying
maintaining the minimums.
Patti Dixon seconded the:
unanimously.
include the suggestion that the
the sizes of all plant materials,
amendment and the motion carried
Discussion followed on the observation deck on Lot 60, that was
poured by way of helicopter. Rick Pylman stated that he would
check into this matter.
Jack Hunn asked Staff how many unrelated people can live 'in one
unit. He stated that a developer is planning on renting a bedroom
at a time, this winter in any of the units that they don't sell.
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Other Business (cont)
Discussion followed on how the developer is marketing them that
way. They are selling them and then they rent them for the
owners. The bedrooms have sepaarate phone and cable lines, etc.,
and each has their own bathroom.
These units were planned to be rentals. The Town has no
regulations to control this type of rentals.
Rhoda Schneiderman moved to adjourn, and the meeting was adjourned
at 9:20 PM.
Respectfully submitted.
Charlette Pascuzzi
Recording Secretary
Commissi
J. Perki
S. Railt
R. Schne
A. Reyno
P. Dixon
H. Vest
J. Hunn
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