PZC Minutes 081892RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
August 18, 1992
The regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission was held
on August 18, 1992, at 7:30 PM in the Town Council Chambers, Avon
Town Municipal Building, 400 Benchmark Rd., Avon, Colorado. in
the absence of John Perkins, Chairman and Jack Hunn Vice President
the meeting was called to order by Secretary, Patti Dixon.
Members Present: Patti Dixon, Buz Reynolds,
Sue Railton, Henry Vest,
Rhoda Schneiderman
Staff Present: Jim Curnutte, Town Planner;
Rick Pylman, Director of
Community Development;
Charlette Pascuzzi, Recording
Secretary
All members were present except Jack Hunn, John Perkins and Henry
Vest. Mr. Vest arrived at 7:45 PM.
Lot 43 Block 2, Wil
drid_ge Sub.divisioy__ Canyon Oaks #i4,
Material/Color Change Request
Jim Curnutte stated that Mr. and Mrs. Andy Wallace, residents of
Unit #4, are requesting this change.
Curnutte then gave a brief history of the Canyon Oaks subdivision.
He stated that the approved plans show that all four buildings
would have white trim and would be painted either grey or brown.
The plans show that this included the painting of the scallops.
Units one and two have the painted scallops. Unit 3 does not nave
scallops. The applicant has left theirs natural and have applied
a sealer. The request is to allow for dark green trim accents and
to leave the scallops unpainted.
Andy Wallace stated that it probably wouldn't make any sense
putting the scallops up there if they were to be painted, because
you really can't see them once they are painted, and the same with
the trim work.
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lot 43 Block 2-_ Wildridge Subdi_vision,_____Canyon__Oaks ___44,
Mate ria!-/ Color Chance Request cont)_
Discussion followed on how the deck area would be finished off.
The applicant is leaving the lattice natur-il to match the natural
scallops. The railings and trim will be in the white and green.
Sue Railton moved to approve the color change request, as
submitted.
Rhoda Schneiderman seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Lot 13/1 Block 1 Fi1ing 1, Eaglebend Subdivisiony_Desi�n. -and
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rnnctrurtinn RarviCAR_ Zone Chanqe/Conceptua_1_ Des _ignRev_iew,_
Jim Curnutte stated that the zone change and conceptual design
review would be revie.red at the same time, to give the Commission
a better idea of whit is proposed. He stated that the applicant
is proposing to amend the existing PUD for Eaglebend. He then
described the existing Eaglebend PUG, stating that Lots 13/14 are
located in Subarea 5, which is all duplex lots. Curnutte pointed
out that all of the duplex lots on the south side or Eaglebend
Drive are at least 16,000 square feet. The applicant's PUD
amendment involves both the rezoning and replatting of Lots 13/14
to create 3 new lots. The new zoning on the lots would be single
family, duplex, and single family. The number of units allowed
has not changed, just the configuration.
Curnutte then reviewed the criteria for considering a zone change,
and also the applicable goals and objectives from the
Comprehensive Plan. He stated that Staff does not feel that the
proposed development plan for Lots 13 and 14 serves to further any
of the goals and objectives in the Comprehensive Plan. Also, the
three reduced lot sizes and configuration of buildings on the
three lots is very atypical of what has occurred in Filing I so
far. The two buildings shown on lot B appear to be out of
character with the existing development and not in conformance
with the Town's definition of a duplex.
Curnutte stated that Staff recommends denial of the PUD amendment
zone change as submitted.
Curnutte then reviewed the conceptual design review request,
stating that the two buildings on Lots 14A and 14C are identical
mirror images architecturally. Also the same materials and colors
will be used. The buildings are two stories high with walkout
basements, maximum building height scaled off right at 35' on the
elevation drawings, but this cannot be verified since no grading
and drainage plan has been provided. The units are about 3750 sq.
ft. in size, not including the two car garages. No floor plan has
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been provided for the basement. Each unit has two large decks and
a gas fireplace.
Curnutte stated that a landscape plan has been provided, but no
grading and drainage plan. A good mixture of trees and shrubs is
shown and an automatic underground irrigation system will be
provided to all landscaped areas. The plan shows that all
portions of the properties will be covered with sod.
Curnutte stated that no elevation drawings have been provided for
the proposed duplex lot. A site and massing model can be
requested by the Commission. A complete grading and drainage
plan, prepared by a professional engineer or surveyor must be
provided, and must include an accurate location of the Eagle River
as well as the 100 year floodplain. The decks, shown within the
7.5 ft. setback and utillity easements on the site plan, will have
to be removed from those setbacks. Again, although not part of
this review, Staff would point out that the proposed buildings on
Lot 14B do not meet the Towns definition of a duplex.
Tony Seibert stated that the easiest thing for a developer to do
is build a duplex on a duplex lot. They have built seven or eight
duplexes on Eaglebend Drive. They are starting to look very
similar, even though they change colors, roof lines, front
facades, etc. This is an attempt to get away from the standard
duplex look. He stated that this is the first he has heard that
the same concept that John Railton used will not comply wit' the
duplex requirement. What he is trying to do is to create three
single family homes with a carriage house. What he is trying to
do is push the buildings towards the river and permit a single
drive to service all four houses and tucking the carriage house
into a part of the semi -circle of the driveway. He stated that he
had originally thought about tying all fo-jr houses together with
trellises, but that would mean that all four would have to be the
same color.
Considerable discussion followed on the designs and site locations
of the buildings. Discussion followed on the lot sizes in Filing
2. Mr. Seibert stated that if he can't get four building on the
site, he will have to step back and build two more conventional
duplex. What he is trying to do is create something a bit
different from what is existing on the other lots.
Acting Chairwoman Dixon the opened the public hearing.
Chris Eckrem, owner of Lot 15, stated that she has reviewed the
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Design and
sign Review,_
plans for this application. She stated that she did not think
that the proposed buildings on lot 14B meet the requirements for a
duplex. She stated that she would not have a problem in making
the two lots into four lots. In doing that, there would be no
need to tie the two buildings together. She thinks that this
would be a most pleasant vista from the street and would
accomplish less driveways, but more off street parking. She
stated that she thought a massing model would be appropriate. She
feels that this type of project would be better than two duplexes.
With no other public input, Chairwoman Dixon closed the public
hearing.
Discussion followed on how the center lot would be deeded.
Rhoda Schneiderman stated that she would not be adverse to this
being divided into four lots. She strongly suggested that there
be no mirror images, all four units be totally different, but with
maybe a common theme, same types of trim, etc.
Henry Vest stated that he would like to see a massing model. He
likes the idea of not putting two duplexes on the lots.
Sue Railton stated that the proposed architecture doesn't look any
different than anything else down there and she has a problem with
the mirror images.
Considerable discussion followed on just doing away with the lot
lines (setbacks) and giving the developer more latitude in placing
the units on the lot. Discussion followed on how common areas
would be handled.
Sue Railton moved to table this application to allow the applicant
to provide a better solution for this proposal.
Rhoda Schneiderman seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Lot 56E, Block 2. Wildridge Subdivision. Amadee Residence, Remodel
Design Review
Jim Curnutte stated that this is a remodel for half of a duplex.
The remodel really invloves a new floor to the building. The
applicant would like to add a lower level that includes a new
master bedroom and bath, a family room and a small guest bathroom.
A new redwood balcony would also be added to the south side of the
building. The balcony includes three diagonal braces and stairs
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idence, Remodel.
to grade. The plans do not show a revised grading plan and Staff
has concerns regarding this. The lower level addition walls will
be finished with stucco to match the existing stucco on the
building. New sliding glass doors and clad windows will be added
to the building's south side and one bathroom window will be added
to the building's east side. The proposed addition eliminates
2-1/3 of the arches on the south side of the building. Also the
two arches on the east side will be eliminated.
Curnutte then reviewed the design review criteria. He stated
that the new addition seems to provide a better tie-in to the
land.
Staff recommends approval with the following conditions:
1. If existing grades are being altered as a result of the
construction of this addition, the applicant should provide a
grading plan for Staff review when a building permit application
is made.
2. Additional landscaping be added along the south and east sides
of the builidng.
Chris Montero, representing Mark Donaldson, stated that she would
provide new grading plans before application for a permit. She
stated that there would be no problem with providing more
landscaping.
Discussion followed on the massive blank wall, and what could be
done to break it up. Discussion followed on whether there would
be tenants in this addition. Ms. Montero stated that she did noL
believe this was the purpose for this addition. Discussion
followed on maybe stepping the addition down to break up the
massing. Considerable discussion followed, with the Commission
indicating that they did not favor this particular proposal,
although they did feel that it would be good to close in the
arches.
Sue Railton move to table this item to allow the applicant time to
address some of the Commission's concerns.
Rhoda Schneiderman seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Building
Jim Curnutte stated that the applicant would like to amend his
project as follows:
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Lot 50, Block 1. Wildridae___Subd_iv_icion,,___Schaub. Duplex1__Bui lding
and Site Plan Revisions, (cont)
1. Change the color of the stucco from the approved color of tan
to the existing light grey.
2. Eliminate certain first level building trim.
3. Eliminate the boulder and timber retaining walls except those
along the east side and southeast corner of the house. The
applicant will regrade the property to a slope and reseed.
Wally Schaub stated he would like to stay with the grey of the
stucco, just from a maintenance standpoint. He also stated that
he would like to add more trees along the driveway. He wants to
use more drought resistant plants.
Considerable discussion followed on the retaining wall on the
north side and the slope of the driveway and the color of the
stucco.
Rhoda Schneiderman moved to grant approval with the following
conditions:
1. The stucco be painted the original color of tan and the garage
doors should be painted also. The tan picked should be a shade
lighter than the wood trim.
2. Building trim will be installed on lower levei doors and
windows and around the garage doors to match upper level trim,
however, trim on the corners may be eliminated.
3. Additional landscape plan will be submitted to Staff, which
will include drainage plan for the north side of the driveway to
eliminate drainage into the adjacent property and the addition of
materials throughout the property, but most importantly along the
full driveway on both sides.
4. The vertical cut along the full length of the driveway on the
south side will be filled and smoothed to look like a natural
grade.
Sue Railton seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Wally Schaub stated that he would also like to eliminate the
automatic irrigation system. Considerable discussion followed on
this matter.
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Henry Vest moved to approve the elimination of the irrigation
system, Buz Reynolds seconded. The motion was denied with a vote
of two for and three against, Rhoda Schneiderman, Patti Dixon and
Sue Railton voting nay.
Lot 17 Block 1, Wildridge Subdivision, Cliff rose Townho_mes,.
Landscape Plan Desig nn_Review
Jim Curnutte stated that the applicant has requested that this
item be withdrawn from the agenda at this time.
Reading and Approval of the Planniny_and_Zoning_Commission Meeting
Minutes for August 4, 1992
Rhoda Schneiderman moved to approve the minutes for the August 4,
1992 meeting as submitted.
Henry Vest seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Other Business
Rhoda Schneiderman moved to approve Planning and Zoning Commission
Resolution 92-11, A Special Review Use for a Home Occupation, Lot
48, Blockl, Benchmark at Beaver Creek Subdivision, Planning and
Zoning Commission Resolution 92-12, A Special Review Use to Allow
an Automotive Repair Shop in the Metcalf Center Building on Lot
34, Block 1, Benchmark at Beaver Creek Subdivision, and Planning
and Zoning Commission Resolution 92-13, Holy Cross Electric
Special Review Amendment.
Henry Vest seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
The meeting was then adjourned at 9:30 PM.
Respectfully, submitted.
Charlette Pascuzzi
Recording Secretary
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Commission approval
J. Perki
S. Railt
R. Schne
A. Reyno
P. Dixon
H. Vest
J. Hunn
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