PZC Minutes 072192--. lofts
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
July 21, 1992
The regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission was he u
on July 21, 1992, at 7:30 PM in the Town Council Chambers, Avon
Town Municipal Building, 400 Benchmark Rd., Avon, Colorado. The
meeting was called to order by Chairman John Perkins.
Members Present: John Perkins, Buz Reynolds,
Sue Railton, Henry Vest,
Jack Hunn, RI-.jda Schneiderman
Patti Dixon
Staff Present: Jim Curnutte, Town Planner;
Charlette Pascuzzi, Recording
Secretary
All members were present except Jack Hunn and Henry Vest. Mr.
Hunn arriveu at 7:32 PM and Mr. Vest arrived at 7:35 PM.
Lots 14/15 Block 1. Benchmark at Beaver Creek Subdivision
Contractor's Yard and Soil Storage, _Special Review_ Use. Public
Hearing
The applicant has requested that this item be tabled until further
notice.
Rhoda Schneiderman moved to table this application.
Sue Railton seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Holy Cross Electric Association Line Relocation.,_ Special Review
Use Amendment, Public Hearing
Jim Curnutte stated that back in 1987 the original special review
use permit was granted for Holy Cross Electric to upgrade the
existing 69KV line to a 115KV line on the same alignment. He
described on an aerial photo where the existing line runs. The
approved upgrade was never executed. Since that time Holy Cross
has downgraded the 69KV line to a 24.5KV line, which is more of a
distribution line than a transmission line. Holy Cross is now
requesting an amendment to that special review use permit and the
amendment involves a minor relocation of the alignment. Curnutte
then described the new alignment on the aerial photo. This is
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Holy Cross Electric Association Line Relocation,__ Special__Revlew
Use Amendment, Public Hearing. (cont)
something that the Forest Service has requested Holy Cross to do
to get the towers off the ridgeline.
Currutte stateo that there has been some discussion of Holy Cross
working with the Town and the Mountainstar Development people, to
see if anything could be done about relocating some existing
lines, and Holy Cross has agreed to continue discussion with the
Town to look at the feasibility of relocations. Staff does not
feel that that discussion should hold up the request for this
minor revision to the special review use permit.
Curnutte reviewed the criteria for considering a special review
use. He stated that Staff recommends approva of this amendment
request to allow for construction of the 115KV power line with a
24.5KV underbuild.
Bob Ballinger stated that he would be glad to answer any questions
the Commission might have about the relocation. He stated that
the relocation was brought about after the Forest Service
Environmental Assessment was completed in 1987. At that time
there were discussions with the Town of Avon, Eagle County, and
Holy Cross and all parties agreed that the relocation would
present a much better viewer aspect for the Town of Avon and for
the traffic along the Interstate. Discussion followed on the
matter of the removal of the existing line and the addition of the
new line and its location. Mr. Ballinger also described where the
underbuild would be located and where it would go underground.
Discussion followed on the type of towers. Mr. Ballinger stated
that they will be steel towers and provided a sample of the color
they will be which is a darkened galvanized grey. They are a
tubular steel that lasts longer and their appearance is better.
Discussion followed on the protection against lightening.
Discussion followed on the revegetation of the areas where the
poles will be removed. The existing poles will probably be cut
off at ground level. The Forest Service will dictate how that
will be done.
Chairman Perkins asked what would be the possibility of maybe
cleaning up and adding some landscaping around the substation.
Holy Cross replied that they have already done that twice. The
second time the deal was that they would landscape the site and
the Town was to take care of it and water it, but did not do so.
Discussion followed on this matter. Holy Cross was reluctant to
expend any more money on something that would be difficult `or
them to maintain. Also, the substation actually belongs to Public
Service, who is their supplier. If anything was done, they would
have to have concurrence with it.
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Chairman Perkins then opened the public hearing. With no public
input forthcoming, Chairman Perkins then closed the public
hearing.
Jack Hunn moved to approve the amendment to the special review use
with a strong recommendation that the applicant approach Public
Service for permission to install additional landscaping around
the substation.
Patti Dixon seconded. The motion was then amended to include the
following findings.
A. The proposed use complies with all requirements imposed by the
Zoning Code;
B. The proposed use is in conformance with the Town Comprehensive
Plan; and
C. The proposed use is compatible with adjacent uses.
The motion carried unanimously.
Lot 45, Block 3. Wildridge Subdivision,—Vedder _ Duplex, Final
Design Review
Jim Curnutte stated that at the last meeting the Commission asked
for more hardlined drawings of the elevations, a landscape legend
on the landscape plan, and better explanation on snow shedding.
Curnutte stated that the applicant has provided the hardlined
drawings, a legend has been added to the landscape plans, and the
applicant will describe the heated gutters for the snow shedding,
with interior downspouts.
Curnutte stated that Staff is recommending approval, based on the
criteria and findings listed in the previous staff report, which
has been provided along with this staff report and including the
condition that those portions of the concrete driveway thresholds
and lanterns located in the utility easements will need review and
approval From all utility companies prior to the issuance of a
building permit.
Considerable discussion followed on the sizes of landscaping
materials. the coniferous, aspens, and shrubs need to be upgraded
in size. Discussion followed on the matter of the necessity or a
railing on the sod roof edge. Mr. Vedder stated that he had
discussed this with the Building Official, Joe McGrath, and he
stated that this would only be a concern if the subject area is
used for egress, which this area is not. If the Building
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Lot 45 Block 3 Wildridge SubdivisionVedder Dupl_ex,__Final_
Design Review. (cont)
Official should, at a later time, decide that a handrail would be
needed, the applicant would have to come back to get approval.
Discussion followed on the excessive use of glass. Discussion
followed on the use of tempered glass for the railings. Of
concern was the glare. It was suggested that maybe a vinyl mesh
might be used.
Jack Hunn asked if the applicant was proposing an automatic
irrigation system. The applicant replied, absolutely. Hunn asked
about the lighting for the balconies, the garage and drive. The
applicant described where the lighting would be. Discussion
followed on whether the driveway would be asphalt or concrete.
The applicant stated he has not actually decided which at this
time.
Discussion followed on the colors, which will be sage greens. The
applicant described where the colors would be used.
Patti Dixon moved to approve the final design review with the
following conditions:
1. Those portions of the concrete driveway thresholds and
lanterns located in the utility easements will need review and
approval from all utility companies prior to the issuance of a
building permit.
2. That the minimum shrub be five gallons.
3. The coniferous trees be 6 to S feet.
4. The deciduous trees, primarily aspen, will be 2 inch to 3 inch
caliper.
5. The applicant return for approval of the railing material,
once the applicant decides what that will be.
Jack Hunn seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Jim Curnutte stated that Dave Gossett is asking for final design
review approval. Curnutte stated that the Gossett duplex received
conceptual design review on June 16th, and the Commission's
comments are provided 1 the staff report. On July 7th, the
Gossett duplex receiveu final design review and the Commission
offered several comments and suggestions and those are included in
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Gossett -Duplex,_ Final
the minutes of that meeting, which are attached to the staff
report. The Commission did not feel the application was at a
final design level and, therefore, the Commission denied the final
design approval.
The applicant has resubmitted his application and in response to
the comments made at the July 7th meeting has made the following
changes:
- The landscape plan has been amended to specify the height of
the pine trees (6') and the method of irrigation.
- The window trim at the stucco areas has been changed from
raised stucco to 2" x 6" rough sawn cedar.
- The material to be used on the chimney cap has been defined and
will be a painted metal flashing and chimney caps.
- Stucco has been added over all areas where unfinished concrete
was previously shown.
Curnutte reviewed the criteria to be considered for final design
review.
Staff recommendation is for approval of this proposal with the
condition that the issuance of building permit will be subject to
Town Engineer review and approval of the grading/drainage plan.
Dave Gossett provided a list and samples of the colors to be used.
Mr. Gossett stated that the oesign architect is Frank Waggoner, so
there is credibility to the design of the house. He provided
photos of a house in Singletree that demonstrates the same shape
and lends itself to the property and to the view and the sun.
Discussion followed on the contrast of the colors to be used on
the siding and the stucco. Discussion followed on the big view
window. Discussion followed on the massing of the house. The
applicant stated that the house goes back up the hill. He stated
that everybody keeps talking about the massing of the house, but
never explains what is wrong with the massing. Chairman Perkins
stated that there is an "L' building, but no intergration of the
two legs of the "L" when they turn the corner. Considerable
discussion followed on this matter. Discussion followed on the
roof lines being awkward. The applicant stated that he guessed it
was just a matter of opinion of what is considered awkward. Buz
Reynolds stated that when you look up from the road at where the
house will sit, it will be hard to see the massing. There will be
a long driveway. The applicant stated that if he moved the house
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Lot 95, Block 1 Wi1dridge Subdivision Gossett Duplex. Final_
Design Review, (cont)
down he would block off all the sun from the adjacent single
family.
Chairman Perkins asked Staff if, once an design review was denied,
the applicant can just make some changes to the same application
and come back for another final review? Jim Curnutte stated that
the applicant can submit another application and pay another
design review fee and be considered.
Chairman Perkins asked what the specific changes were that were
made. The applicant replied that since everybody had a problem
with the stucco detail around the windows, he changed that to a 2
x 6 rough sawn cedar; the combination of three windows has been
changed to one big window; the landscape plan was amended to
specify the irrigation, and the size of the pine trees, as
requested; the material used on the chimney caps and flashings
has been specified, and all areas where unfinished concrete was
previously shown are now stucco. The applicant stated that he
added a handrail on the front stairway.
Buz Reynolds moved to grant final design review approval as
submitted.
Rhoda Schneiderman seconded. The mction carried with a 4 to 3
vote, John Perkins, Jack Hunn and Sue Railton voting nay.
Lot 3/5, Sunroad Subdivision Parking LotExpansIcnDesicn Review
Jim Curnutte described the lots in Sunroad Subdivision. He stated
that the lots to be discussed are the one where the bank is and
the lot just west of the bank. He stated that Glen Palmer is
present on behalf of Terry Halverson, President of First Bank of
Avon. They are requesting final design approval of a new parking
lot on Lot 5. Mr. Halverson has indicated that a new parking lot
is needed to satisfy his current and projected parking demand.
His staff is currently parking across the street to leave space
for customer parking. They have provided a grading/drainage plan,
a snow storage plan, engineered drawings, and a landscaping plan.
The parking lot will provide 45 additional parking spaces. The
perimeter of the property will include a six foot concrete
sidewalk, which carries out the theme of the streetscape plan. In
addition, Mr. Halverson has volun'„eered to provide 14 street
lights that match the Town's proposed lighting. The landscape
plan shows a gravel picnic area located in the center landscape
island. The information on species, size and quantity has been
provided on the application, but not on the landscape plan. The
grading and drainage and snow storage plan has been reviewed by
the Town Engineer. There are a couple things that he would like
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Lots 3/5 Sunroad Subdivision�Parki_ng___Lot _Expaision�__ Design
Review, (cont)
to have corrected.
Curnutte stated that in addition to the work described to be done
on Lot 5, they are making some minor revisions on Lot 3. That has
to do with the south parking lot. There will be a new landscape
island there, the idea is to provide wider spaces and a wider
sidewalk. Also the trash dumpster needs to be relocated as a
result of the new north entryway. The parking lot will be
re -striped on the south side.
Curnutte then reviewed the criteria for considering a final design
review, stating that the application meets the requirements.
Staff recommends that the shrub size of one gallon be upgraded and
the minimum aspen caliper be two inches. Also, the gravel picnic
area would seem to be more appealing if it were sod. Staff
recommends that additional landscaping be added along West Beaver
Creek Blvd and Sunroad to help screen the parking. Staff
recommends approval of the parking lot expansion with the
condition that the landscape plan be amended to provide a legend
which more fully details the landscape quantity, size and method
of irrigation, which is automatic spray irrigation, additional
planting should be provided along the front of the south, west and
north parking areas, and shrub and aspen tree sizes should be
increased.
Glen Palmer of Alpine Engineering stated that Randy Cole did the
landscape plan. He stated that he did not think that Mr.
Halverson would have a problem adding a couple more trees, but he
cannot say tonight how many more. The bottom line is that they
want it to look nice.
Discussion followed on the locations of the 14 street lights. Mr.
Palmer stated that Mr. Halverson had no problem with sod instead
of gravel in the picnic area.
Discussion followed on what will be done with the existing parking
lot. Discussion followed on the curbs and gutters. Also
discussed was the matter of handicap parking in the existing
parking lot. It was suggested that the applicant check with the
Disibilities Act and see where they should be placed. Further
discussion followed on the sizes of the landscaping materials.
The applicant was directed to work with the staff on increasing
the sizes.
Brian Vedder suggested that bike racks also be provided for the
people who ride their bicycles to tend to business.
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Final Design
The dumpster will be screened the same as before.
Sue Railton moved to approve the final design review, to include
the staff recommendations, and that bicycle racks be considered,
and the applicant will research the current ADA guidelines with
respect to handicap parking.
Henry Vest seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
ision,_ Mountain
Jim Curnutte stated that Joe Maytk and Larry McKinzie are
representing Mountain Comfort Furnishings. Curnutte stated that
the Commission looked at this project on May 19th and also aqain
on July 7th. The staff reports from those meetings are included
with this staff report. Some of the comments made were:
- The Commission was not uncomfortable with the proposed
materials, which is a split faced block and a metal roof, as long
as a strong landscape treatment provided on the lot, especially on
the west elevation.
- Take a look at a hip roof design. (The applicant has provided a
hip roof design and also a gable roof design)
- Provide good detailing of landscaping, including mature
materials and irrigation. Protect landscaping with rolled curb
and gutter.
- Consider a more inviting window along I-70 side, possibly add
dormer.
- Work out parking situation with staff. (this matter has been
solved. The project currently meets the standards for parking
requirements for this type of building.)
- Consider closing the west parking lot entrance if possible.
As this is a conceptual review, no formal recommendation is
presented, however, Staff has met with the applicants on several
occasions and Staff feels that they have addressed all the
concerns. The only areas that need additional details are the
proposed signage and landscaping sizes.
Larry McKinzie stated that they have spent most of their energy
since the last meeting trying to get the parking worked out with
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Lot 2 Block 1. Benchmark at Beaver Creek Subdivision,_ _Mountain
Comfort Furnishings Conceptual Desi_g_n Review (cont
the Staff. He stated that he has provided a hip roof drawing and
stated that he didn't particularly care for it. He would prefer
to see the gable treatment. Also, they have dashed in the
hammerhead turnaround that would be necessary if the west drive
were deleted. Regarding signage, he provided a copy of the
Mountain Comfort logo, stating that the colors are sort of a royal
blue. The roof will be a darker blue or green and he has talked
to the client about maybe using a green color ir. the logo instead
of the blue. This has not been decided yet.
Discussion followed on the height of the building. Discussion
followed on the hip roof and the gable roof. The reasoning for
suggesting a hip roof was because of the proposed metal roof. It
was suggested that the gable be used, but with a different finish.
Discussion followed on using a different material, i.e. stucco, on
the columns. Discussion followed on the landscape plan and
location of the plantings. Discussion followed on the suggestion
of a joint use of the C -Mart service drive.
The general concensus was that there has been considerable
improvement to this project and the applicant was encouraged to
proceed in the direction that they are going. The Commission
would prefer the gable end rather than the hip, with a change of
material in that gable. Work the landscaping out, and present
colors, provides a sample of the concrete block and a sample of the
roof material and specifications and color of the roof.
Bridge_ Townhomes,_
Jim Curnutte stated that the Saddleridge Townhomes is one of the
first buildings you see when you come up into Wildridge. The
building is currently stained with a semi -transparent rust color
stain and a mission brown trim. This application was tabled at
the last meeting because the Commission did not like the first
colors proposed. The applicants are now proposing to go with the
sandstone tuff as suggested and keep the mission brown trim. This
would be apF,lied as a solid body stain. The applicant has color
chips to present. The garage doors will be stained the sandstone
buff. The doors will be left natural.
Jack Hunn moved to approve the colors as a Devoe SC52 Sandstone
Buff as the field stain; Devoe SC80 Mission Brown as the trim
color.
Patti Dixon seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
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Jim Curnutte stated that Dan Karzen, representing KSO Development
Group is requesting conceptual review of two tri-plexes. It has
frontage on Wildridge Road. The driveway is 18' wide. There are
24 parking spaces provided, two car garages for each unit and 2
spaces in front of each garage. A landscape plan has been
provided. Each of the tri-plex buildings will house 4 bedroom
units. The units are about 1600 square feet in size, not
including the garages. Each unit has gas fireplaces. The
building is two stories, with a maximum building height of around
34 feet. Exterior building materials are horizontal and vertical
rustic cedar channel 2 x 8 siding and 1 x 4 rough sawn cedar
fascia, aluminum windows, six panel metal doors with sidelights, 1
x 4 rough sawn cedar trim around the windows and doors.
Presidential Celotex asphalt shingles will be the roofing
ma.terial. All the driveway and parking spaces will be finished
with asphalt. There is a three foot high, 8 x 8 timber retaining
wall for the trash pickup. The applicant will provide color
chips.
Staff would like to point that the limit of the disturbed area
shown on the landscape plan does not match the revised contour
lines shown on the grading and drainage plan. Since this building
height is so close to the maximum allowed, and the maximum is from
existing and/or finished grade, staff would like to see spot
elevations on the ridgeline.
Dan Karzen stated that they have vertically as well as
horizontally stepped the buildings. He described where they have
added windows to create interest. They have broken the six-plex
into two buildings for the sake of interest and to take advantage
of the view for each building. Mr. Karzen provided color samples
stating that the cedar would be a blue as the cedar color, a white
as the trim and stonehedge as the window trim.
Discussion followed on the trash pickup situation. Discussion
followed on the matter of having two tri-plexes on a six-plex lot.
Staff responded that it is allowed. Discussion followed on the
two buildings being duplinates. Discussion followed on the
possible use of two materials on the building. The applicant
stated that they had discussed using some stucco and had proposed
it to some of the potential buyers, and the preference had been
the use of the cedar only. Considerable discussion followed on
the durability of stucco. Discussion followed on the regularity
of the stepping down of the units. Discusssion followed on making
one building a four-plex and the other a duplex. Jim Curnutte
stated that this would not be allowed on a multi -family lot.
Discussion followed on the placements of the windows.
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Lot 6 Block 1 Wildridge Subdivision.KSO _ Development_ Gro
Townhomes. Conceptual Design Review,_(cont)
Discussion followed on the colors to be used.
Jack Hunn asked if there would be an automatic system for
irrigation. The applicant responded that it would be automatic.
Further discussion followed on the all cedar building. Tie
general consensus of the Commission was thatthere would be no
problem with the all wood house if more landscaping in terms of
shrubs was placed up against the foundation to break up the
massing of all wood. The asphalt roof would be in a color
compatible with the building colors.
Commission Meeti-nq
Jack Hunn moved to approve the minutes for the July 7, 1992
meeting as submitted.
Rhoda Schneiderman seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Other Business
Discussion followed on the procedures for making motions and
including findings when required. It was suggested that if the
Commission had a problem with an application, that the application
be tabled, to give the applicant time to redo the project, etc.
rather than a flat denial.
Lot 45. Block 3, Wildridge Subdivision, Front Yard Building
Setback
Sue Railton moved to approve Planning and Zoning Commission
Resolution 92-09, a resolution approving a variance from front
yard building setback requirements for Lot 45, Block 3, Wildridge
Subdivision.
Jack Hunn seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Parking
Sue Railton moved to approve Planning and Zoning Commission
Resolution 92-10, a resolution approving a variance from off
street parking and loading requirements, to allow a change in use
in the building from a 1,308 square foot office to a restaurant
which creates a parking demand of 16 a6ditional spaces on Lot 20,
Block 2, Benchmark at Beaver Creek Subdivision.
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Jack Hunn moved to adjourn, Rhoda Schneiderman seconded and the
meeting was adjourned at 10:05 PM.
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Respectfully, submitted.
Charlette Pascuzzi
Recording Secretary
Commission app
J. Perkins
S. Railto
R. Schnei er a
A. Reynolds
P. Dixon
H. Vest
J. Hunn
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