PZC Minutes 051992RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
May 19, 1992
The regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission was held
on May 19, 1992, at 7:30 PM in the Town Council Chambers, Avon
Town Municipal Building, 400 Benchmark Rd., Avon, Colorado. The
meeting was called to order by Chairman John Perkins.
Members Present: John Perkins, Buz Reynolds,
Patti Dixon, Sue Railton,
Henry Vest, Jack Hunn
Rhod:> Schneiderman
Staff Present: Jim Curnutte, Town Planner;
Rick Pylman, Director of
Community Development;
Charlette Pascuzzi, Recording
Secretary
All members were present.
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Ct,irman John Perkins stepped down as a voting member of the
Commission since he is representing the Church. Vice Chairman
Jack Hunn presided over the meeting at this time.
Jim Curnutte stated that substantial changes have been made from
the previous plan submitted. The lot is a little over one half of
an acre in size. Open space surrounds the property on the north
and east sides. The A -Y Townhomes on Lot 44 is directly to the
west of the property, with Nottingham Road and I-70 to the south.
The property is zoned for residential low density, which provides
for single family, two family and multi -family dwellings at a
density not to exceed seven and one half units per acre. A church
is listed as a special review use in the RLD zone district to
allow discussion on any potential impacts.
The two story church is approximately 5600 square feet, located on
the northeast corner of the lot. There is an approximate 4300
square foot parsonage, located on the northwest side of the lot
and the southern 2/3rds of the lot will contain the access aisles
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and parking, landscaping and retaining walls. Thirty one parking
spaces are being provided. The church will house a fellowship
hall, kitchen, restrooms and classrooms on the first floor, and on
the second floor there will be a 90 seat sanctuary, offices,
counciling rooms and a nursery. The parsonage will house a two
car garage and a guest apartment on the first floor, and the
pastor's family living quarters on the second and third floors.
Curnutte then reviewed the criteria for reviewing a special review
use, stating that the proposal is in conformance with all portions
of the zoning code, it appears that the proposed use is in general
conformance with the Avon Comprehensive Plan, and that Staff
believes that traffic impacts associated with this use occurs
predominantly on Sunday, at which time traffic levels on
Nottingham Road are at their lowest. Regarding the proposed use
compatibility with adjacent uses, the adjacent property owners
have been notified, as required, and the scale of the proposed
buildings will be very similar to existing development along
Nottingham Road. He stated that letters regarding this proposal
have been received from Ron Iverson, Pat Hite, Christy Vandussen,
Julieta Valles, John Perkins, and Rich Vandussen in support of the
proposed application. A letter was received from Reynolds/Smith
recommending denial of the application.
One dissimilarity is that the parking is in front instead of the
back, but that is dictated by the topography of the lot. The
lighting of the parking lot will be a design issue. The
application did not provide any new information regarding possible
noise impacts.
Curnutte stated that Staff feels that a church is an appropriate
use with the following conditions:
1. The property be limited to uses typically associated with
church activities (weekend services, sunday school, weddings,
bible study, etc.) Any expansion of use beyond that discussed
must be brought back to the Commission for review.
2. No external noise making devices will be allowed (bells,
speakers, etc.) and internal noise volume should be kept to a
level compatible with surrounding residential properties.
Rick Pylman stated that a petition, signed by 15 people listing
their addresses as Nottingham Road, in support of the proposed
church, has been received.
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John Perkins stated that he feels that this is an important issue
to be discussed.
He then reviewed his letter to the Commission, covering the
concerns that the Commission had at the previous meeting. This
letter covered the concerns regarding the traffic on Nottingham
Road; the steepness of the access ramp, (they have lengthened the
access drive and lowered the grade of the parking lot, making the
grade of the drive 6-2/3rds percent; they have reduced the
parking to 31 on grade parking spaces; they have moved the
proposed church building to the east portion of lot 45 and have
removed the parsonage from the church structure and proposed the
parsonage as a separate residential structure adjacent to lot 44;
they have removed parking and created an area of intense
landscaping to buffer both the parsonage and the parking from lot
44; They have added appropriate landscaping along Nott.;ngham
Road; They have reduced the depth of the proposed building by 4
feet and added a strip of landscaping between the parking lot and
the building; They have reduced the gross square footage proposed
from 12,600 sq. ft. to 10,000 sq. ft.;
Mr Perkins stated that he had spoken with Keith Taylor, who had
voiced objections at the last meeting, regarding the changes made
and while Mr. Taylor agreed that the changes would approve the
submittal, he remains opposed.
Perkins stated that he believes that they have addressed every
major concern of the May 5th meeting. He believes that they have
demonstrated that lot 45 will work effectively as a church and
parsonage site.
Perkins stated that he feels that the parking being on the
southern side of the lot is an advantage. Chambertin has problems
with fire lane and parking behind their building. You also have
the sun/shade problem and the north side of those buildings seldom
thaw. Also, putting the parking behind the buildings would
require another major retaining wall.
Perkins stated that the Pastor's letter indicated that there would
be no bells, no loud noises introduced into the neighborhood.
Vice Chairman Hunn then opened the public hearing.
Lou Ann Shipiro, a resident of the valley for 14 years spoke in
favor of the church on Lot 45.
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John Hazard reminded the Commission that all the letters of
support are from people not living in the neighborhood and
suggested a survey of the adjacent properties.
Tim Kehoe spoke in support of a church on the property.
Betty Vandussen, stated that she lives un Nottingham Road and she
is the one that got the petition signed. Residents signing were
from Chambertin and the lot right next to lot 45.
With no further public input, Vice Chairman Hunn closed the public
hearing and called for Commission review.
Patty Dixon stated that she is still in support of this project.
Rhoda Schneiderman stated that this is a much better project and
feels that she could support it at this time.
Henry Vest asked about the owner of the lot to the east of lot 45.
Perkins stated that that property is owned by the Town of Avon and
is open space. He stated that they would like to approach the
Town regarding the possibility of getting an access easement off
this property to provide a better access to the church property.
Sue Railton stated that she feels that they have addressed all the
concerns very well and she fully supports the project now.
Buz Reynolds had some concerns with the height of the retaining
Nall. John Perkins described how it would be constructed.
Reynolds also asked what would happen if the church expanded, with
only 31 parking spaces. Perkins stated that they would have to
have more services.
Jack Hunn stated that he feels that they had done an excellent job
in responding to the concerns of the last meeting. Breaking up
the building scale helped make it fit into the residential
neighborhood.
Sue Railton moved to grant special review use approval to Lot 45,
Block 1, Benchmark at Beaver Creek Subdivision, Faith Christian
Fellowship Church, citing compliance with criteria A, B, and C as
stated in the Staff report, and including conditions 1 and 2 as
recommended by Staff.
Patti Dixon seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
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Lot 1 and part of Lot 9.
Shamrock, Special Revi
Jim Curnutte stated that the front page of the Staff report is a
memo stating that since the application presented tonight has not
changed from the application presented on March 3, 1992, which was
denied, Staff did not prepare a new staff report. Since the
time of the writing of the memo, some letters, for and against,
have come in and the applicants have made a few minor changes to
things like the landscape plan, etc. Staff will review the staff
report from the last meeting and if any changes have been made,
the applicant will cover them. Curnutte stated that the reason
for going through the staff report again is that there are two new
members on the Planning Commission.
Curnutte stated that David Galloway, of Galloway, Romero and
Assciates, on behalf of Diamond Shamrock, who would like to locate
an automobile service station on Lot 1 and part of Lot 2,
Nottingham Station Subdivision. The lot is about 31,600 square
feet in size. It is currently zoned Neighborhood Commercial. The
intention of the Neighborhood Commercial District is to provide
sites for commercial facilities and services for the principle
benefit of convenience commercial ncads. The purpose of listing
automobile service station as a !z:aecial review use is to allow the
Planning Commission a certain level of review to attach any
additional conditions or performance standards necessary to bring
the project up to a level that the Commission feels comfortable
with as it relates to the criteria.
The development consists of a one story building with a floor area
of about 1500 square feet with a canopy structure located above
the building. There are some underground gasoline storage tanks.
There are 3 12,000 gallon and one 8,000 gallon tanks. Curnutte
described the easements running along the Avon Road side of the
property. He sta ",! that the canopy is about 49' x 103'and
nearly 19' off of the ground. There are sufficient parking
spaces, including a handicap parking space located near the door.
The previous plans showed a truck turnaround/future access way
that has been deleted with this application.
Curnutte then reviewed the criteria, stating that the proposal is
in conformance with the Avon Zoning Code. He stated that this is
subarea number 4 in the Comprehensive Plan, which is Town Gateway.
It is critical that properties in this area are developed in a
manner that creates an attractive appearance. Also some other
goals applicable to this application and those are:
Enhance the Town's role as a principal, year-round
residential and commercial center in the valley.
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ion Diamond
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of Beaver Creek Resort Association. The last two were submitted at
the previous public hearing and it was requested that they be
presented at this hearing.
Hugh Green, Corporate Real Estate Representative for Diamond
Shamrock, stated that they were not reapplying at the Town's
request. He stated that they feel that they did not do a good job
with the previous presentation and they are back to do a better
job because they think it is a top quality project. They are
pleased with the progress they have made with the Town Staff.
He stated that one of the revisions is the replacement of the red
canopy with a white canopy. This is a major concession for
Diamond Shamrock. They feel that this goes a long way in down
playing the attention to the site. He stated that if the design
is a major concern, they have no objections tc going back and
working with the Staff to come up with something different. They
have to try to stay with this particular concept on this
particular lot, however.
He stated that a traffic impact analysis was done and it will be
presented at this meeting. All the plans have been reviewed by
the State Oil Inspectors Office and a letter of opinion is also
presented.
He stated that they have added 40% more trees to mitigate the
massing. He stated that there is a need for this project and they
feel that they are the top company that can fill that need. He
stated that he has been working in the valley for about three
years and there simply is no other site zoned along Avon Road,
along the Interstate, next to Pizza Hut there is a mountainside
that would not be feasible. Additionaly, it is deed restricted
against gasoline. This is the only site that meets their
criteria. He used West Vail as an example of stations located
near a water way. They feel that they have a very sound
environmental plan that has been presented to Staff. He
introduced George Petre, representing the property owner, Dave
Galloway and David Moore , of Galloway, Romero & Associates,
Consulting Engineers, and Kathleen Kreger of Kreger and
Associates, consulting transportation engineer.
Mr. Green thanked the Commission for the opportunity to make this
presentation and stated that he is available for questions later.
He then turned the meeting over to George Petre.
Mr. Petre gave a brief history of the proposed site and how it
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Provide for increased opportunities for development of
service-oriented commercial and light industrial uses, with proper
controls to encure compatibility.
Ensure that a high quality visual image of the Town is
established through both public and private sector activities.
Ensure that the high quality, natural environment is
preserved and integrated into the developed areas of the Town.
Ensure that future development will minimize degradation of
the environment, particularly in sensitive natural areas.
Protect and enhance the water quality of the Eagle River and
Nottingham lake.
Regarding compatibility. Staff feels that the applicant has made
great strides toward ensuring this proposal's compatibility with
adjacent uses. The biggest concern Staff had was the protection
of the Eagle River and lighting. The applicants have provided a
lighting plan showing the impact of the lighting. It shows,
essentially, that no light will be spilling over ;he property
lines teyond a certain minima: intensity. In addition, they have
agreed to recess the canopy lights and no direct sources should be
seen. The site lights have also been recessed. lite sign will be
up lit from the ground. The store lighting will also be recessed
into the ceiling.
Regarding the second concern of environmental impacts to the Eagle
River, the applicant is proposing state-of-the-art secondary fuel
containment systems with double wall tanks and piping systems,
vapor recovery, etc. The applicant has provided information
regarding how small or large spills would be handled. Curnutte
then described the grading and drainage plan.
Curnutte stated that Staff feels that an automobile service
station is an appropriate use for this site. The proximity of the
Eagle River does raise environmental concerns, however, Statt
feels that the applicant has demonstrated that the use can be
designed and controlled to mitigate the possible impacts of
gasoline contamination to the Eagle River. Therefore , Staff is
recommending approval of the special review use request.
Jim Curnutte stated that letters from Gene Edwards, Donald Finn,
and J W Moeller, and L D Thomas, in support of '..iis application
has been received. There are three letters suggesting denial from
John Hazard, from Andrew Daly, of Vail Associates and Bob Mcllveen
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Lct_ 1 and part of Lot 2 Nottingham Station Subdivision. Diamond
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became zoned neighborhood commercial. He statea that at the time
that discussions were being held regarding uses, and before the
property was annexed to the Town, filling stations were an allowed
use. They feel that this is a proper use for this site and the
owner also feels that this is only part of the overall commitment
that the Town made with them at the time of the annexation and
dedication of the road and dedication to the open spaces. They
hope and expect the Town to fulfill their commitments to the
owners for the development of this property for this purpose.
Dave Galloway, Consulting Engineer for Diamond Shamrock, reviewed
a chart he had made up of zoning requirements, the Town of Avon
Design Guidelines, and the Town of Avon Master Plan. With each
Town requirement, Mr. Galloway stated that they have met or
exceeded the requirement and described how they have met i`..
Mr Galloway stated that they have incorporated each and every
design element that the Town requires. They have added extra
landscaping, they have increased the setback, 1:hey went for a
smaller ground sign and moved it to locations that aren't really
the best for them. He feels that this will be an aesthetically
pleasing project. He stated that they comply with all criteria
for a special review use. They also meet the goals and
objectives of the Master Plan. He stated that, regarding the
potential for stream and air pollution, they have provided a lot
of redundant containment systems and storm water treatment that
normally wouldn't be associated with a facility such as this.
He stated that they do not feel that they will impact any of the
public or private facilities. They have the ability to handle any
event that may happen on the site from the standpoint of a fuel
product discharge. The State Oil Inspector's letter states that
they not only meet every requirement, but in almost every instance
they provide a second layer of safety. They have tied their site
design features into the Avon Road landscape plan and existing
improvement on Avon Road. They have provided a traffic study that
indicates that there is no impact.
Mr. Galloway then reviewed sections of the Master Plan and stated
again that they met each one. He stated that he hopes that the
Commission doesn't miss the point. If they look at the criteria
that the Commission has to pass judgement of the project, they
have to agree that they meet all the criteria.
Hugh Green stated that he and the traffic consultant will be
available to answer any questions forthcoming.
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Jim Curnutte stated that he has a couple of copies of the traffic
study if anyone would like to read it, but basically it reaches
the conclusion that Avon Road and Hurd Lane are acceptable for
this type of use.
Chairman Perkins then opened the public hearing portion of the
meeting. He asked that each person please state their name, and
the area of the valley they live in.
Mauri Nottingham stated that he lives about a quarter of a mile up
stream from this project and he suffers from a "not in my front
yard" syndrome. He further described how Lot 1 ano 2 came into
being. He stated that the traffic stud• did not take into
consideration the future development of his land which possibly
could have 150 units on it, nor did they take into consideration
that Huid Lane will probably be connected to Eaglebend Drive in
the future. He then voiced his concerns regarding the systems for
controlling spills and he reviewed some figures he had regarding
past spills.
Helen Weiss stated that she is not a resident of Avon, she resides
in Edwards. She stated that she is not an environmentalist,
however she is very concerned regarding the quality of life and
the changes in that quality of life that this would bring to Avon.
She feels that the impact of anything that happens up valley on
the Eagle River will effect all of them down valley. She also is
concerned with the monitoring and control systems also. She says
her water would be effected just the way the Town water would be
effected. She stated that, even though they have met all the
guidelines of the Town, this site is not the proper site for a gas
station. She stated that ".he applicant stated that there are no
other sites, well we hax,e no other river, we have no other
secondary water supply. She urged the Commission to deny this
application.
Colleen Bird stated that she is not opposed to a Diamond Shamrock
station, but is deeply opposed to the location. She feels that it
is an eyesore. There has to be some other site other than next to
the river. She asked that they save the environment and keep the
water clean.
Rick Rosen, legal counsel for Beaver Creek Property Owners
Association and a business owner in the Town of Avon, stated that
in contrast to the applicant's comments, the majority of Beaver
Creek homeowners in the Association strongly discourage the use of
this site as a gas station, even though we do need another gas
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Lot 1 and part of Lot 2 Nottingham Station Subdivision. Diamond
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station. Please do not locate it next to the river. If the
river is tainted there will be no snow making equipment for Beaver
Creek, there will be no rafting, fishing or drinking water down
valley. He stated that traffic is a problem, in contrast to what
the applicant has said. He compared the traffic caused by City
Market and Wal-Mart. He also stated that the gas station is no
more than visual pollution. If a gas station is to be in a
mountain town, make it look like it fits in a mountain town. He
felt that since there is no major changes in the application from
the previous application, he feels that this should not even be
before the Commission again. He urged the Commission to deny this
request again.
Martin Weiss stated that they have been coming to the valley or
living in the valley for a period of twenty years. He reminded
the Commission that a gas station is not a use by right in the
neighborhood commercial zone district. He felt that the proposed
site is the wrong place. Just because it meets the legal
requirements doesn't mean that it is smart to be placed on this
site.
John Hazard, a resident of Avon and a Town Council member, stated
that the Town has been working very hard on the landscaping along
the road and have approved one million eight to try to beautify
this town. This is the main entrance to Avon, and to see a gas
station on the main entrance is not appropriate. If he knew there
would be a gas station on the main road, he would not have voted
to spend that much money on improveme.its, just to have it ruined
by a gas station.
Celeste Nottingham stated that she has been a resident of Avon
about thirteen years. She is also an Avon Town Council member.
She stated that the Commission has a hard decision to make. Her
concern is the river. Just because it is legal doesn't mean it is
smart.
With no other public input forthcoming, Chairman Perkins then
closed the public hearing and called for comments from the
Commission.
Patti Dixon stated that there is a need for another gas station,
but the integrity of the Town is more important and she is opposed
to this station because of the location. She felt it was too
visible, and the architecture and lighting is not appropriate for
a small town like Avon.
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Rhoda Schneiderman asked about tests for ground water. Dave
Galloway stated that they did tests at the depth the tanks would
be and did not encounter ground water. Schneiderman asked if what
they were doing would meet all states standards. Mr. Galloway
stated that he is not famililar with all states, but they are far
beyond standard for the Federal Government. Schneiderman then
inquired about monitoring controls. Mr. Galloway then described
the method of monitoring the tanks and the requlations for the
monitoring. Schneiderman commented that the station would not have
to look like a gas station does in Denver. She stated that she
could not look at a place like this design every day. Mr.
Galloway stated they would be willing to work with the Staff in
producing something appropriate. Hugh Green stated that they
would like to come up with a design that is acceptable.
Henry Vest stated that he cannot understand why they have spent so
much money on placing this station on this particular site. He
asked if they had considered the site next to Coastal Mart. Mr
Green stated that they could not use that site because it would
make them secondary to Coastal Mart. They feel that this
particular site is the best location in the Town of Avon. The
station has to be on Avon Road, because that is where the traffic
is.
Jack Hunn stated that Avon would benefit from another gas station,
and he commended the applicant on their professional presentation
and the willingness to install state-of-the-art equipment to
attempt to mitigate the concerns regarding the Eagle River.
However, he agrees that the best you can get may not be good
enough in this case. He stated that he agrees that the proposal
does comply with the underlying zoning. He thinks that there are
a number of areas in the Comprehensive Plan that they are not in
compliance with. Another concern is the potential incompatibility
with the probable adjacent uses, which cannot be determined at
this time as it is not known what will be built down the street.
It can be assumed that it will generate traffic and it will
probably be some form of residential development. Because nis
project does not meet these criteria, he could not support
granting the special review use.
Sue Railton stated that her concern is that Avon is spending this
vast amount of money on street improvements and here we are
putting a gas station in the middle of the improvements. Also she
is concerned about the proximity of the Eagle River.
Buz Reynolds stated that he has a problem of the proximity of the
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river. It has nothing to do with the company, or the building, it
is just the matter of being near the river.
John Perkins stated that his comments would echo the fellow
Commission members comments. He differs with the staff in respect
to the Comprehensive Plan, specifically, high quality image of the
Town, the high quality potential natural environment, that future
development will minimize degradation of the environment,
particularly in naturally sensitive areas, and to protect and
enhance the water quality of the Eagle River and Nottingham Lake.
Jack Hunn moved to deny the proposed Special Review Use for Lot 1,
and part of Lot 2, Nottingham Station Subdivision, Diamond
Shamrock because it fails to meet the three criteria established
by the Town ordinances and specifically is in conflict with the
Comprehensive Plan in the following specific areas:
1. The proposal does not ensure a high quality visual image
of the Town on the proposed site.
2. It does not minimize adequately the degradation of the
environment in particularly sensitive natural areas.
3. It does not adequately enhance and protect the water
quality of the Eagle River.
4. It potentially causes traffic problems.
Patti Dixon seconded the motion. Discussion followed on item 4
and it was decided to leave the item in the motion.
The motion to deny carried unanimously.
Subdivision,
Jim Curnutte stated that no information had been provided along
with the application, therefore, Staff is recommending tabling
this item until said information is provided by the applicant.
Buz Reynolds moved to table Lots 14/15, Block 1, Benchmark at
Beaver Creek Subdivision, Contractor's Yard and Soil Storage until
the next meeting.
Henry Vest seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
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Lot 65/66 Block 2 Benchmark at Beaver creek _Subdivision,_ The
Annex Sian Program Amendment, Design Review
Patti Dixon stepped down as a voting member of the Commission,
since she is a tenant in the Annex building.
Jim Curnutte stated that Pat Barron is requesting an amendment to
the existing sign program for the Annex. Curnutte stated that the
applicant has recently requested another amendment to specifically
allow temporary banners. This amendment will also include the
previous amendment, making this a complete document. Curnutte
provided a document entitled "the Amended and Restated Sign
Program for the Annex Shopping Center". It is considerably more
detailed in its controls than the previous sign program. The
drawing provided is the only sign program at this time. What
this program will do will specify what will be allowed. Eighteen
inch high individual letters will be allowed; cabinet signs will
be allowed to be incorporated into the total sign area; It will
specifically allow corner tenants to place signage around the
corner from their main entry; It will allow the interior space
tenants that are not on corners, (spaces 2, 3, 4, 14, 15, and 16)
to place signage on the east walls of the building, which
currently is not used for signage.
Curnutte then reviewed the Sign Design Guidelines which should be
considered and then reviewed the criteria to be considered when
approving a sign program.
The minimum sign size will be three feet. The sign types allowed
in the amendment are the same as the previous program, with the
exception the cabinet signs are specifically addressed. The main
change in this program is to allow the interior space tenants to
display signage on the building in a location that is not directly
contiguous with their space. The only visual change in this
amendment would be to allow a few additional signs to be located
on the north and south, east facing wing walls of the building.
Since the overall sign area allowed on these wall is limited to a
total of 18 sq. ft., the visual impact should be minimal.
Staff recommends approval of the proposed sign program amendment
with the following conditions:
1. The ability to place signs on the east face of the building
should be limited to interior tenant spaces 2, 3, 4, 14, 15, and
16. Curnutte stated that the applicant has agreed with this
condition.
2. Exhibit "B" should be expanded to show the limits of sign
location on the east facing wall of the building. The applica•it
has provided this information.
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3. The "General" section portion of the sign program should be
rewritten to better clarify the owners intent with regard to total
sign allowance on the east facing walls of the building.
Discussion followed on the amount of signage to be allowed each
tenant on the side walls.
Pat Barron stated that the amendment has been well covered by the
staff report. The concern with this amendment was to allow the
interior tenant to have the extra signage. Considerable
discussion followed on which tenants would be allowed to install
signage on the east facing walls and the size of the signs.
Discussion followed on the matter of trees having to be trimmed in
order for the signs to be seen as planned. Discussion followed on
the necessity for this request.
Rhoda Schneiderman moved to approve the sign program amendment
contingent upon the revisions, that the sign area allowed be
within 30 feet from the edge of the building; a minimum of 3
square feet per sign and the cabinet sign to be no more than 35%
of the sign proposed as built.
Sue Railton seconded ano the motion carried four to two with Jack
Hunn and Henry Vest voting nay.
Patti Dixon resumed her seat as a voting member of the Commission.
Buz Reynolds stepped down due to a conflict of interest.
Jim Curnutte stated that Brent Alm , representing the owners, is
requesting final design review for a single family residence that
will be accessed from Flat Point. A 14' wide asphalt driveway and
large turnaround /parking area is provided. The 2-1/2 story
residence is approximately 4000 square feet in size, including the
unfinished basement, but not including the three car garage.
Maximum building height does not exceed 35 ft. There are two gas
fireplaces included. There is a large wraparound deck on the
south and west sides. Some of the materials being proposed are
Timberline Ultra asphalt shingles, STK cedar siding (sandstone
color), river rock, and stucco siding on the lower portion, metal
clad windows, wood doors , and redwood decks with cedar rails.
A grading/drainage/landscape plan has been provided and shows that
all disturbed areas will be revegetated as much as possible with
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Lot 35, Bloc'c 3. Wildridge Subdivision.__Brust_Res_idence ,__Flnal
Design Reviero,_ cont
transplanted materials and other disturbed areas will be reseeded
with a high altitude wildflower/grass seed mix. Proposed
irrigation will be by hand.
At conceptual review the Commission made the following comments:
- Consider more significant deck columns - This has been
addressed by the applicant.
- Remove stone work in front of and on the side of the garage and
consider adding stones at the entry way - This has been done.
- Consider stucco at all areas below the architectural band on
the three sides of the building - Again, that has been done.
- Consider a hip roof at the east garage elevation, instead of
a gable roof - This has not been addressed.
- The proposed asphalt shingle should be the heaviest texture
possible in the weathered wood color.
- The removal of pavement within 10' of front lot line - the
applicant has addressed this as well.
Curnutte then reviewed the criteria for considering a final design
review, stating that the application is in conformance with the
zoning code and applicabl% rules and regulations of the Town of
Avon. The type and quality of building materials and landscape
materials are very compatible. The residence has been sated on
the lot in e manner which reduces site impacts to adjacent
properties. All grading will be contained on the lot. The house
has been sited in the most reasonable building location on the
property. The building presents a nice face to people approaching
either from the north or south. Some additional landscaping would
help along the east side.
Staff recommends approval of the final design review application
with the comment of final staff review of the grading and drainage
plan prior to the issuance of a building permit.
bent Alm stated that, regarding the garage roof, economically
they want to use trusses in there and it works better not to go
with the hip roof, so they dropped the roof down two feet which
brings the massing down quite a bit. He stated that some
landscaping could be added to the east side.
Discussion followed on the size of the garage door. Discussion
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Lot 35 Block 3, Wildridge Subdivision Brust Residence, Final_
Design Review, (cont)
followed on where the meters would be located and how they would
be screened. Discussion also followed on the sizes of the
proposed landscaping. It was felt that the scale of the proposed
plants is pretty minimul. It was suggested that the landscaping
plan be brought back showing more quantity and perhaps larger
sizes, and give some thought to the east side and possibly put
more planting to highlight the entrance. It was recommended that
the applicant consider an automatic irrigation system.
Discussion followed on the colors to be used. It was suggested
lightening up the stucco for more contrast.
Jack Hunn moved to grant final design approval to Lot 35, Block 3,
Wildridge Subdivision, subject to the following conditions:
- The landscape plan be reconsidered and brought back at a
subsequent meeting.
- The final exterior colors also be confirmed at that meeting.
- Mr. Hunn amended his motion to include the staff
recommendations.
Patti Dixon seconded. Jim Curnutte stated that these conditions
should not hold the building permit process, and the Commission
agreed. The motion carried unanimously.
Lot 17, Block 1 Wildridge Subdivision Dan Karzen for KSO
Development Group Fireridge Townhomes, Final Design Review
Jim Curnutte stated that Dan Karzen is requesting final design
approval of a four-plex on Lot 17. The lot is slightly over a
half an acre in size. It has frontage on Old Trail Road and
Ssaddleridge Loop, but will be accessed via Saddleridge Loop. The
driveway is 18' wide an will be paved. There are 18 parking
spaces on the property. Each of the four-plexes has a two car
garage and each has two spaces in front of the garage. In
audition two parking spaces are provided o.f to the side. The
trash area is where the individual trash cans will be placed on
trash day. Exterior building materials include rustic cedar
channel siding, 2" x 8" with 1" x 4" rough sawn cedar trim,
aluminum windows and 6 panel metal doors, redwood decks and rails.
The applicant is proposing an asphalt shingle, the weathered wood
Presidential Celotex, at about 370 lbs per square.
A grading and drainage plan has been provided along with a
landscape plan. The landscape plan shows a reasonable variety of
good size trees and shrubs and all disturbed areas will be
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ireridg_e_Townhomes� Gan
sign Review. (cont)
reseeded with a native grass seed mix, and irrigation is
proposed to be by hand.
Curnutte reviewed the changes made to this project in respons-) to
the comments made by the Commission at conceptual design review as
follows:
The location of the building hae been shifted somewhat to
take better advantage of view corridors;
The amount of asphalt on the lot has bean reduced;
Fenestration changes have been made to all four elevations;
All siding areas previously shown with the vertical siding
have been replaced with stucco or windows;
Box bay windows have been added to the second floor bedrooms
of units 1 an 3 and the 3rd floor bedrooms in units 2 and 4;
Mono pitched roofs, with eyebrows, have been added over the
3rd floor bedrooms on the north elevation in Units 2 and 4 and
over the living rooms on the south elevation units 1 and 3.
The shingle color has been changed from a dark brown t- a
weathered wood color.
A project identification sign has been shown on the site
plan.
Curnutte Lhen reviewed the criteria for considering a final design
review, stating that the proposal is in conformance with :he
zoning code. The proposed building materials are all commonly
found throughout Wildridge. The landscape plan has been upgraded
in response to the Commis ion comments at conceptual review. The
applicant is aware tha--. he will be required to install the
landscape materials in the sizes and species identified on the
flan. All grading will be contained within the lot lines. The
applicant has provided large berms and landscape materials along
the front. The visual appearance seems acceptable. The applicant
has made a significant number of building changes to improve its
appearance, especially on the north side, which was of most
concern with the Commission at the last meeting. The project is
very similar to the Wildridge Townhomes on Lot 46, however there
are at least twenty two changes that have been made to this
project. Staff feels that those changes are sufficient to negate
potential negative impacts with regard to similarity. In addition
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Karzen for KSO Development Group Final Design Review (cont)
the distance from lot 46 and the orientation on the lot and the
color scheme differences go a long way to differentiate this
project from the one previously approved.
Staff is recommending approval of the final design review as
preserted.
Chairman Perkins asked if Staff could provide the elevations of
the Lot 46 project. Mr Curnutte stated that he would get them.
Dan Karzen stated that, from comments made at the conceptual
review, the major points were to improve fenestrations,
particularly on the Old Trail Road side. They have made a number
of changes in the windows and roof lines and introduced stucco
material. They reviewed site orientation and shifted the building
to get as much as they can out of the view corridor. Mr. Karzen
then provided samples of the colors to be used. He also provided
samples of the colors that were used on Lot 46. John Perkins
asked how much depth he was seeing, on the north elevation, from
the closest plane to the furtherest plane. Skip Organ stated that
from unit to unit there is an eight foot change. He went on to
describe various depths on each level.
Dan Karzen stated that the suggestion of supping was not
economically feasible. This was the only suggestion that they
could not do something about. He further described the changes
that had been made and were previously described by Jim Curnutte.
Considerable discussion followed on thesq changes. Of concern
were the eyebrow roofs. Rhoda Schneiderman voiced concerns that
there were no interesting windows on the 2nd and 4th units and
discussion followed on this matter. The ap�licant stated that the
1st and 3rd units are vaulted ceilings, but the 2nd and 4th are
not, that is a false gable. Schneiderman stated that she thinks
that the landscaping is very inadequate for that many units.
Discussion followed on this matter also.
Discussion then followed on the comparison of elevations of this
building with the bu)lding on Lot 46. Considerable concern was
voiced that it still reads as virtually the same building.
The applicant stated that a great deal of changes in materials,
windows have been done. They have a floor plan that was designed
for this building and are limited as to what they can do.
John Perkins stated that he does not feel that the applicants have
been very creative in the approach to this solution.
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Further discussion followed on the roof lines and the visibility
of them, and the materials to be used. The proximity of this
project with Lot 46 was discussed in detail.
Rhoda Schneiderman stated chat it wouldn't really cost any mire
money to have an interesting exterior design and not have to
change the floor plan. She stated that the applicant is not
looking at this as another project totally. They are looking at
it as a kind of an adjunct to the other on and being able to use
the same basic design and just redo it a bit.
The applicant asked if there was something unpleasant about the
design. Schneiderman stated no, but personally, she doesn't think
that it is so special that it should be approved the second time.
The problem is that it is a prominent site and this call for
something a little nicer.
Sue Railton felt that in some areas the design has become over
complicated. The west elevation on the top area where there are
three different sizes sort of popping out is a bit messy. The
south elevation where the cross struts have been added is not
reading as having much variety. She was concerned with the planes
on the top. Mr Karzen stated that, from the comments made last
meeting, they tried to add detail. Ms. Railton stated that there
is good detail and messy detail and this is messy. She pointed
out on the elevations what she was concerned with. Further
discussion followed on the units being repetitious and comparisons
were made with neighboring projects as examples of how a project
could be done without being repititious. It was suggested that
possibly clustering could be considered. John Perkins stated that
he did not feel that the applicants have taken a real run at this.
Jack Hunn stated that he is still concerned about the orientation
of the site. The applicant stated that thev cannot move it any
more because of the setbacks. The Commission felt that there is
flexibility in rotating the building. Considerable discussion
followed on the view corridors. The Commission and the applicant
did not agree on which was the best view corridor. Jack Hunn
stated that the proper orientation to view leads to some
interesting solutions. It would allow the applicant to step the
units vertically, which would cost money, but it adds a lot of
interest to the project. There would be less impact to the
neighbor. He felt that the landscaping falls short of being an
adequate plan. He stated that it has to have an irrigation plan.
Who among the four owners will be watering the trees. He stated
that he has never heard of any soils problems there that would
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prohibit the installation of an automatic irrigation system.
There has been no attempt to screen the huge asphalt area from the
adjacent properties. Four trees will not do that. The design is
pre -conception imposed on this site. He understands that this is
for economic reasons. He stated that the applicant is not
starting with the site and what works on trio site, but taking a
plan that they have used successfully and sold successfully and
trying to impose it on to the site. He stated that the Commission
had suggested the use of stucco, but in a larger quantity than the
applicant has indicated, perhaps the base of the building being
stucco to give it the impression that it has a heavy base. He
felt the mor- •oof form is awkward.
Buz Reynolds felt that the building should be stepped. This would
get rid of a lot of the repetitious detail. He feels that that
would be the best thing to do. He stated that is all he had for
ideas. He didn't really have any problems with the project.
Henry Vest stated that he would like to apologize for the
Commission. He thinks that the major problem is that this project
is very close to the one that has been done. He feels that the
Commission might not have made this clear at the conceptual level.
John Perkins stated that this is probably a good point.
Jack Hunn moved to deny final design review approval for Lot 17,
Block 1, Wildridge Subdivision, for the following reasons:
Desiar, review consideration 6.13 - Compatibility of the
design to minimize impact on adjacent properti-s.
6.15 - The visual appearance of the project as viewed from
adjacent properties.
6.25 - Item #4 - Repetitious design characteristics are
discouraged.
Patti Dixon seconded. The motion carried with a five to two vote,
with Henry Vest and Buz Reynolds voting nay.
Tract B Block 2 Filing 2 Eaglebend Subdivision, The A1� nes-at
Eaglabend Final Design Review
Rick Pylman stated that the PUD amendment was approved at the last
Planning and Zoning Commission meeting and subsequently was
approved at the last Town Council meeting. The applicant is
asking for final design review approval on four house models and
four color schemes for approximately 19 single family residences
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(21 including the two already constructed), depending on how they
sell. The materials will be a Tamko asphalt shingle for the
roofing in an antique grey color. Siding will be a masonite
product. Several �D)ifferent textures and board sizes will be used
to create interest and contrast among the units. All the windows
will be white aluminum with a 1 x 4 cedar trim. Elevations of the
four units have been provided.
Pylman stated that staff recommends approval of the four model
homes for construction with the following recommendations:
1. Approve the two story model with some treatment to the exposed
concrete foundation walls, either stucco or paint.
2. Approval cf the tri -level model to be conditional upon the
siting of the home. The elevation identified as the right
elevation is weak with only one window, and should be used only as
the north elevation. The applicant would rather add some windows
than restrict the siting of this model.
3. Revisions to the fireplace chase on the Mountain Laurel model
are strongly suggested.
Staff feels that other than these recommendations, the houses meet
the criteria of the Planning and Zoning Commission Guidelines.
Russell Thatcher stated that they have siding samples and a color
board for the Commission to iook at. He stated that they would
rather redo the one side of the tri -level than have it restricted
in siting, because that is the long side and the lots are deeper
than they are wide. Discussion followed on this mz*t--r.
Discussion followed on the matter of the 'fioating" fireplace.
The siding samples and color schemes were then discussed.
Discussion followed on how the applicant plans to keep identical
designs, materials and colors from being next to each other.
Further discussion followed on what could be done on the long side
of the tri -level unit.
The applicant stated that they would paint the exposed concrete
foundations.
Considerable discussion followed on the pros and cons of all four
models. Discussion followed on the materials to be used.
Discussion followed on the landscape plan being very basic, and
extremely small in sizes.
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Chairman Perkins stated that he thinks that there are enough
concerns being voiced by the Commission that he feels that perhaps
this item should be tabled until the next meeting to give the
applic,int time to address the following concerns:
- Add interest to the side on the tri -level.
- Texture and painted exposed concrete walls.
- Windows above the garage door on the bi-level.
- Cedar siding inEtead of the masonite, because the cedar has
been established witn the other two units.
- The landscaping plan is inadequate. One cottonwood centered in
every back yard is not a successful solution.
Chris Ekrem asked to speak regarding her concerns about this
project. Her main concern is off street parking. She felt that
the parking proposed is not adequate. She was also concerned with
the designs of the windows and headers in the proposed plans.
She agreed that the landscape plan needs considerable improvement
and she was also concerned with the planned fence along the
railroad. She felt that this is an imcomplete application and
cannot understand how the Commission can even consider it at this
time.
Discussion followed on the parking requirements included in the
PUD, which is 4 parking spaces.
Discussion followed on whether the applicant will have to come in
for design review for each of the 19 units or just this one time.
It was the understanding of the staff that, unless they make some
architectural changes to a unit, the applicant will not have to
come in for design review on each unit.
Further discussion followed on the proposed colors to be used.
It was suggested that the white be toned down.
Discussion followed on the asphalt shingle to be used.
Jack Hunn moved to table this item 'until the June " 1992 meeting
to allow the applicant to address the following concerns of the
Commission.
- Windows over the garage door on the bi-level model.
- Improve finish on exposed foundation walls.
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- Reconsider stucco colors in combination with grey siding
colors.
- Reconsider the bright tlue accent color.
- Provide fencing detailu.
- Resubmit the landscape plan with increased quantity and
material sizes.
- Reconsider the point at which the soca turns into seed.
- Provide further information regarding the exterior lighting
fixtures and quantity.
- Confirm the weight of the asphalt shingles.
- Resolve the blank elevation on the tri -level unit.
- Provide a revised elevation indicating the modification to the
floating chimney element.
- Confirm which siding products will and will not be used.
Rhoda Schneiderman seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Mountain
Jim Curnutte stated that Joe Matyk, representing the potential
purchaser of Lot 2, is re-uesting conceptual desi_in review of a
proposed furniture store. Lot 2 is zoned Neighborh000 Commercial
and a retail store is an allowed use. The Comprehensive Plan
establishes this property as a gateway to the Town. G=velopment
in this area should reflect the standard of development that
occurs in the Town Center and in the Core Commercia'i area,
however, it should not compete in terms of massing of buildings,
etc. The Comprehensive Plan also goes on to say that Nottingham
Road development should be developed as a secondary streetscape;
limited access points should be provided to simplify traffic
movements; require landscape setbacks and interior landscaping of
parking lots; limit building heights should be limited to three
or four stories.
This site plan shows that the building is to be located on the
southern 1/3rd of the lot, with the minimum required 24 parking
spaces and one loading berth occupying the northern 2/3rds of the
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vision_,_ Mountain
lot. The building is approximately 7,500 sq. ft. in size and is
divided up into the showroom area and the warehouse area. It is a
flat roofed building with a mansart in the front. It is about 18
feet in height. Proposed building materials are 8" x 16" concrete
block, ribbed faced in the front. Black metal is the mansart
structure and black metal roof cap along the top, tinted grey
store front glass on all four sides of the building. A roll up
metal loading berth door will be facing Nottinghham Road. There
will be signage along the front face of the building and a
monument sign in front. As this is conceptual review no criteria
will be provided. Staff feels that it is extremely imperative
that development along this property present just as nice a face
to I-70 as it does to Nottingham Road. In response to this, the
applicant has added windows along the rear and sides of the
building. The architecture of this building, in staff's opinion,
would be more appropriately located in the industrial/commercial
area. The information provided is insufficient to assess the sign
program.
Joe Matyk, stated that he feels with colors and windows the
building could be made more attractive than it sounds in the staff
report. Basically he is here to gather information on what the
Commission would like to see at this location.
Discussion followed on making the concrete block building
attractive and making the I-70 side of the building as attractive
as the north side of the building. The building should provide an
attractive entrance. There should be more design to the building
and the landscaping should blend in with the building and the
parking. More of the parking area should be left for landscaping.
It wa, suggested that a shared drive with C -Mart might be pursued.
Mr. Matyk stated that the parking requirements determine the size
of the parking area. Further discussion followed on how the
landscaping could be improved.
It was suggested that a pitched roof would be good for the design
and possibly the use of two materials r: ner than just concrete
block and possibly the use of shingles rather than a metal roof.
It was suggested that the windows have more interest rather than
just large plate glass.
Chairman Perkins reviewed the comments of the Commission as
follows:
- Concrete block may not be acceptable.
- Elevation to I-70 is important.
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- Concrete block needs to have some inviting interest.
- Take a look at sidewalks.
- The mansart roof is not satisfactory/prefer pitched roof.
- More detail/design work and blend in the landscaping.
- Too much pavement/more landscaping needed.
- Upgrade exterior finishes to be compatible with others in area.
- Pursue arrangement with C -Mart for backdoor access.
- Image to I-70 and Nottingham Road are equally important.
- Separate the service and the front door.
- Contiguous materials around the perimeter of the building,
perhaps bay windows.
Lot 16 Block 1 Wildridge Subdivision Holzman Remodel,_ Design
Review
Jim Curnutte provided photos of the remodel that is in process.
Curnutte stated that the applicant was not aware that he needed
Commission approval to enclose his hot tub area, but once he was
notified he immediately stopped work and applied for design review
and a building permit. The remodel involves enclosing the area
directly below his second story deck and adding some fenestration
to the walls. The lower half will be finished with diagonal
redwood siding to match the building and will be stained to match.
The upper half of the walls will be aluminum windows and there are
doors on the south side of the enclosure.
Staff is recommending approval of the remodel.
It was suggested that a header should be lowered above the window
next to the door to help the appearance. Need a consistent line
of window trim.
Rhoda Schneiderman moved to approve contingent upon the north
window being changed to be consistent with the headers on the
doors. Patti Dixon seconded and the motion carried with Jack Hunn
voting nay.
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Reading and Approval of the Planning_and_Zonin,,c_ QOM-Mi—ELIon Meeting
Minutes for May 5, 1992
Henry Vest moved to approve the minutes for the May 5, 1992
i,ieeting as submitted.
Patti Dixon seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Other Business
Jack Hunn moved to approve Resolution 92-4, Tract B, Filing 2,
Eaglebend PUD Approval.
Rhoda Schneiderman seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Henry Vest moved to adjourn,
was adjourned a 1:05 AM.
Respectfully, submitted.
Charlette Pascuzzi
Recording Secretary
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