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PZC Minutes 110591It RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS MINUTES OF PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING NOVEMBER 5, 1991 The regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission was held on November 5, 1991, at 7:30 PM in the Town Council Chambers of the Town of Avon Municipal Complex, 400 Benchmark Road, Avon, Colorado. The meeting was called to order by Chairman John Perkins. Members Present: John Perkins, Henry Vest, Sue Railton, Patti Dixon Buz Reynolds, Derek Pysh=r Staff Present: Rick Pylman, Director of Community ih,velopment; Jim Curnutte, Planner; Charlette Pascuzzi, Recording Secretary Chairman Perkins stated all members were present, except for Clayton McRory. Lot 27 Block 2 Wildridge, Sanner Duplex.Color Change Jim Curnutte stated that Michael Sanner is requesting a color change for his duplex on Lot 27. Mr. Sanner does own both halves of the duplex so no other approval is necessary other than the Commission's. He is proposing to change the -olor of the building to a navajo white and the applicant does have color chips to present to the Commission. Curnutte stated that the Commission did drive by on the site tour and looked at the samples. Michael Sanner provided the samples for the Commission to consider. He stated the field color will be a navajo white and the fascia will be a monterey grey and the garage doors. The clad windows are a sort of grey now and he thinks he will leave them that way. Patti Dixon moved to approve the color change for Lot 27, Block 2, Wildridge, as submitted. Sue Railton seconded and the motion carried unanimously. Lot 17, Block 2 Wildridge, Stonebriar Townhomes, Final Design Review Jim Curnutte stated that Mark Harrison, representing PLANNING AND November 5, Page 2 of 10 ...ON ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES 1991 Townhomes,__Fina.l Sandstone Development, is requesting final design review approval of a proposed fourplex building on Lot 17, Block 2, Wildridge. Curnutte stated that this is a fourplex zoned lot and is in a multi -family area. The lot slopes toward the northwest about 5-10%. The building will house one three bedroom unit and three two bedroom units. Mark Harrison stated that they will range in size, without the walkouts, from about 1200 to 1400 square feet. The building materials are 6" smooth wood composition siding, asphalt shingles, and double pane wood clad windows. He stated that previous plans showed two driveways. Curnutte stated that the landscape plan currently does not match the grading plan. Some last minute changes that Staff asked Mr. Harrison to make to the grading plan resulted in the closure of the second entrancewayand Mr. Harrison was not able to gel; the landscape plan back to the architect in time to have it match exactly the grading plan, but it will be done, prior to issuance of a building permit. If the Commission is not comfortable in approving the landscape plan as it is shown, it could be brought back for Commission approval. As mentioned, the applicant would like to use an asphalt shingle, the Independence Shangle by Certainteed, minimum 300 lbs per square and weathered wood color. The landscape plan indicates that all disturbed areas will be finished either naturally, native grass and then more formerly as you get closer to the house to provide a good fire buffer. The sod areas of the lot will be watered by an automatic sprinkler system and a drip syatem will be provided to areas outside the sprinkler system. Curnutte then reviewed the criteria for considering a final design approval, stating that the proposal is in conformance with the Avon Zoning Code and the type of materials are suitable with Town Guidelines since the Commission recently made a policy decision regarding acceptability of asphalt shingles. The siting and landscaping is sympathetic to the adjacent properties. All the grading will be contained within the property lines. Though the grading plan has been revised, it still shows a 10% grade from edge of pavement to the property line and the Town standards do not allow more than 4%. Curnutte stated that the project appears to have been designed compatibly with the existing topography. The living level of the units is approximately 3.5' below the PLANNING AND November 5, Page 3 of 10 ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES 1991 Lot 17 Block 2 Wildridge, Stonebriar Townho, mes__Fi_nal Design Review, (cont) elevation of June Creek Trail. All units will have unfinished walkout basements. The visual appearance seems to be acceptable. As mentioned previously, the landscape plan does not currently match the grading plan. The Commission should decide what they would like to see in place of the second entranceway. Buz Reynolds asked if there was any signage for the project and suggested that this would be a good place for it. Staff recommended approval with the following conditions: 1. The landscape plan must be amended to match the grading/drainage plan and includes signage. 2. The grading and drainage plan must be amended to show that the driveway grade within the public right-of-way does not exceed 4%. Mark Harrison stated that they had tried to vary the height of the building to give a better look. Discussion followed on the materials to be used and the colors proposed. It was suggested that the Staff could approve the landscape plan and grading/drainage plan. Derek Pysher mo/ed to grant final design approval to Lot 17, Block 2, Wildridge, with the condition that the landscaping/grading and drainage will be approved by Staff and that the landscaping plan include a project signage. Patti Dixon seconded and the motion carried unanimously. Lot 5 Block 2 Wildridge, Cooper Residence L Final _Desi -9n Review Jim Curnutte stated that Casey Cooper is proposing a single family residence on a duplex lot. He stated that the lot is over a half of an acre, however, at least half of the 1c drops steeply into a natural drainage and the remaining portion has a large knoll on it, leaving less than a quarter of the lot as actual good building area. The applicant is proposing a one story residence to reduce the buildings profile as the lot is highly visible from a lot of areas in Wildridge. In order to achieve the proper driveway grade, as discussed during the conceptual discussion of this house, the applicant has opted to provide a detached garage. However, due to budgetary constraints, the applicant is not proposing PLANNING AND November 5, Page 4 of 10 ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES 1991 i denceFinal _Design any approval of the garage at this time. He would come back for approval at a later date. He is proposing a parking area on the lot at this time. At conceptual review the Commission was concerned that the garage match the house. Discussion followed on the grading and drainage and landscape plan and the retaining wall and walkway up to the house. Currently the grading plan does not match the landscape plan. A landscape plan and an engineer designed grading plan is needed for any retaining walls. Curnutte stated that note number six on the landscape plan, which says that boulder placement of steps and walls to be designated by architect on site, is not acceptable with Staff. Curnutte stated that the Commission, at conceptual review, did find that the detached garage was acceptable and the house was acceptable, but did provide some suggestions at that time. Curnutte then reviewed the criteria for considering final design review. Staff recommendation is for approval with the following conditions: 1. Final staff review and approval of the grading/drainage plan and driveway/road intersection. 2. The landscape plan must match the grading/drainage plan and number 6 on the landscape plan must be removed. Considerable discussion followed on the matter of the garage solution, the landscaping and grading and drainage. The Commission had considerable concerns regarding the incomplete application. Sue Railton moved to table this application until the November 19, 1991 meeting to give the applicant time to resolve the final garage solution, the landscape/grading/drainage problems, consideration of driveway angles, and to present the proposed colors. Derek Pysher seconded and the motion carried unanimously. Lot 63 Block 4 Wildridae Fehringer Residence, Final DesIRn Review Jim Curnutte stated that Stephen Richards, on behalf of Duane Fehringer, is requesting final design approval of a proposed duplex on Lot 63, Block 4, Wildridge. The lot is slightly under a half an acre and has a moderate slope toward the west. The proposed building is about 6,000 sq. ft. in size. The north unit is approximately 2620 sq. ft. and the south PLANNING AND November 5, Page 5 of 10 ,,ON ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES 1991 Lot 63 Block 4 Wildridge, Fehringer Residence, Final Design Review. (cont) unit is approximately 3530 sq. ft. It is a two story, with loft, maximum height 30 ft., with gabled roofs, cedar shake shingles, stucco, 1 x 6 cedar lap siding, cedar trim and clad windows. A color rendering has been provided. The north unit will have a gas fireplace and the south unit will be a woodburning unit. Curnutte stated that there will be a $1500.00 cost at the time of building permit application for the woodburning fireplace. A grading/drainage plan and a landscape plan has been provided. Curnutte then reviewed the criteria for considering a final design review. He suggested that the addition of some larger landscaping along the north elevation would add some interest to that side. Steven Richards provided samples of the colors. The fascia will be Olympic Stain #714, the siding - Olympic Stain #902 and the stucco color will be #9333. Mr. Richards described the siting of the unit on the lot. He also reviewed the elevations. He stated that there will be a drip system and a sprinkler system for areas that need more water. Sue Railton moved to grant final design approval with the condition of final staff review and approval of grading and drainage plan at the time a building permit application is submitted and that larger trees be included along the north elevation. Derek Pysher seconded and the motion carried unanimously. Lot 39, Block 3. Wildridge, Koenke Residence�._Conceptual Design Review Jim Curnutte stated that Steven Richards is also representing the Koenkes. Curnutte stated that the lot is fairly large, 1.29 acres, however, the majority of the lot is over the hill. The proposed building is a two story log home with a two car garage. The house is approximately 4700 sq. ft. in size not including the 650 sq. ft. garage. The exterior building materials include cedar shakes, swedish cope exterior spruce logs, aluminum clad windows, river rock fireplace, 1 x 6 and 2 x 10 cedar fascia and log deck rails. The driveway will be finished with asphalt. The applicant has provided a color rendering and a very complete landscape plan. The grading and drainage portion needs additional detail. Despite the large amount of relatively flat area, PLANNING AND November 5, Page 6 of 10 ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES 1991 Lot 39 Block 3 Wildridge.Koenke__Residence,__ Co_n_ceptual_ Design Review, cont the applicant wishes to place the house over the edge. This would reduce the north elevation as viewed from the road. Curnutte stated that since this is a conceptual review, Staff will not make a formal recommendation at this time. Steven Richards stated that originally they had the house situated further forward on the lot, however, the owners did not care for the height and did not like being so far back that they could not see around a couple of the houses. What they have tried to do is take a cut for the lower floor and take it out level where it meets grade and this would be the start of the house on the far south side. With that siting the house would not have so much mass. The siting of the house this way will help with the wind also. Mr. Richards then described the logs to be used. He provided samples of the proposed colors. Discussion followed on the lower level location. Discussion followed on the vegetation on the south side. Discussion followed on the foundation finish. Discussion followed on the window fenestration on the south side and it was suggested that the applicant considar the regular line and do something to break it up. The general consensus was that this house would work the way the applicant is proposing. Lot 12 Block 2. Benchmark at Beaver Creek_Subdivision,_ Alpenflora II Conceptual Design Review Chairman Perkins stated that the applicant has asked to be tabled until the next meeting. Henry Vest moved to table Lot 12, Block 2, Benchmark at Beaver Creek, Alpenflora II Condos until November 19th. Buz Reynolds seconded and the motion carried unanimously. Lot 3 Wildridge Acres Kola Residence Final Design Review Henry Vest stepped down as a voting member due to a conflict of interest. Jim Curnutte stated that Lot 3 has already received a final design approval, however, the previous purchaser decided not to buy. Mr. Kedrowski is now back with another design for this Lot. This is the last vacant lot in Wildridge Acres. The proposed floor plan is pretty much right at the maximum allowed for Wildridge Acres, which is 2400 square feet. The maximum building height is about 34-1/2 feet above finished PLANNING AND November 5, Page 7 of 10 ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES 1991 grade. The exterior building materials are in line with all the other exterior building materials approved for Wildridge Acres. The driveway will be finished with asphalt. Color samples have not been provided. The proposed landscape does comply with the overall approved landscape plan, however recent conversations indicate that the applicant may not agree with the architect. Some of the species on other lots have been changed from what the architect indicated, by the applicant. Curnutte ti;en reviewed the criteria for final design approval. He stated that it did not appear that the site plan accurately reflects the topography of the lot in the location of Sheperd Ridge cul-de-sac. During an inspection of Lot 4 last week, it appeared that the cul-de-sac is no more than five feet from Lot 4's front pioperty line, therefore he assumes that it is no more than five feet from Lot 3's front property line as well, however, the site plan shows it considerably back from that. Curnutte stated that during the inspection of Lot 4, it was discovered that the applicant did not install the architectural band as shown on the plans. Lot 3 drawings show the same bands and it should be made clear if the applicant is actually going to install these bands. Curnutte stated that the "existing" contour lines shown on the site plan do not appear to have been updated recently to reflect the accurate topography of the property. The plans do not indicate how the exposed foundation wall on the west side of the building will be finished. It would also seem that the addition of a window or two on the east elevation would improve the appearance of the house. A similar plan was approved for Lot 1, and as a condition of the Commission's approval, the addition of some windows on the east elevation was suggested. Curnutte stated that it should be noted that on virtually all other homes in Wildridge Acres where the garage door is shown on the outside wall, it eventually gets moved to the side nearest the house entry. It should be determined where the garage door is actually going to be placed. Curnutte stated that although this house plan is very similar to two others in Wildridge Acres, Staff doesn't feel that the monetary or aesthetic values of other homes in the vicinity will be impaired. Staff recommends approval with the following conditions: PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES November 5, 1991 Page 8 of 10 Lot 3 Wildridge Acresy Kola Res_iden_ce,_Final_ Design Review, cont 1. The applicant should Indicate at this meeting whether or not he agrees with the landscape plan and the architectural drawings presented by his architect. Also it would be nice if the potential owner agreed with the plans. If the home presented is not the one he intends to build or the landscaping he intends to install, Staff would recommend tabling until the accurate plans can be presented. 2. If, as a result of discussions during the meeting, an agreement is reached as to what is going to be built, Staff feels that the plans could be amended and submitted for a building permit, with changes reflected on the plans submitted for the permit. Bob Kedrowski stated that the fireplace will be gas like all the others. He then discussed the landscaping. He stated that he is not saying that the trees will be put in the exact locations as shown on the plans or will be the exact type, but there will be just as much as on the plans and the same size. He stated that the architect put the garage on the wrong side so it will be changed. Also another window or two will have to be added. He stated that the fill on this lot that was used for the other lots will be replaced. He wanted to pick up the color rendering from Steve Riden, but he is out of town at this time. He stated that he had not even noticed the bands and he can put it on if the Commission so wishes. He stated that originally he had used the bands on the houses that had stucco to separate the stucco from the wood. Chairman Perkins stated that his biggest concern he has is the Staff concern about the discrepencies on the topo and cul-de-sac location. Considerable discussion foilowed on all of the above matters, especially the discrepencies on the topo. Henry Vest stated that he wanted to discourage the Commission from approving this particular home. His was the first of this plan. He stated that they searched for plans that would meet their needs and suit the lot also. He stated that he made the plans to suit the views, i.e. the bay windows, the change in the upstairs floor plan, etc. He and his wife would not like to see a lot of the same house up there next to theirs. Lot 1 also has the same floor plan. He stated that he feels the architect should be excited to draw a nice floor plan to suit the lot, not use one that has already been used twice. He stated that they felt that by being a little creative they would have a nice house that would fit with the neighborhood, yet would not be the same. P DING AND ZOIJING COMMISSION MEETING MINUIES Ne ember 5, 1991 Page 9 of 10 Lot 3 Wildridge Acres. Kola Residence. Final Design Review cont Bob Kedrowski stated that he took the prospective buyers through the various styles of houses in Wildridge Acres and this is the floor plan that they liked. He stated that they are reversing it on the lot and will not have the same look. Also affordability, from the purchaser's standpoint, is another issue. This is the square footage that the purchaser can afford. Also, the unfinished walkout basement was a feature that they liked. Changes have been made to the bay windows on this house as compared to Henry's house, also. Considerable discussion followed on the flocr plans offered in Wildridge Acres. Discussion followed on the completion of the roads. Kedrowski stated that they are going to put the road base down this week and that is all that will be done this winter. Chairman Perkins stated that, regardless of Mr. Vest's concerns, there enough concerns about this project, i.e. topo discrepancies, and architectural concerns that the applicant needs to revise the plans and present to the Commission what he actually intends to build. He also suggested that the applicant also look at ways to make this house d-,fferent from Mr. Vest's house. Mr. Kedrowski stated that there are already some differences between the two units, such as no stone fireplace on the front and the difference in the bay windows. More discussion followed on the topo problems. Derek Pysher moved to table this application until the November 19th meeting, due to the lack of detail as presented at this time. Buz Reynolds seconded and the motion carried unanimously. This item was not discussed by the Commission since it was resolved administratively prior to the meeting. Reading and Approval of Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting of October 15. 1991 Buz Reynolds moved to approve the minutes of the Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting of October 15, 1991 as submitted. Henry Vest seconded and the motion carried unanimously. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES Nuvember 5, 1991f Page 10 of 10 Other Business With no other business to be presented the meeting was adjourned at 9:30 PM. Respectfully submitted, Charlette Pascuzzi Recording Secretary Commiss J. Perk S. Rail C. McRo A. Reyn P. Dixo H. Vest D. Pysh 71—