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RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
MINUTES OF PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING
NOVEMBER 20, 1990
The regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission was
held on November 20, 1990, at 7:30 PM in the Town Council
Chambers of the Town of Avon Municipal Complex, 400 Benchmark
Road, Avon, Colorado. The meeting was called to order by
Chairman Frank Doll.
Members Present: Frank Doll, Sue Railton, Jack Hunn,
John Perkins, Buz Reynolds,
Staff Present: Rick Pylman, Director of Community
Development; Jim Curnutte, Planner;
Chairman Doll stated that all members were present except
Clayton McRory.
eRide_n___for Bob
inal Design Review
Jim Curnutte reviewed the lot size and building and floor
area ratios. The maximum building height is 29 feet from
finished grade to the highest ridgeline. He stated a
landscape plan indicating plant species and size, a
revegetation plan for all disturbed areas and an irrigation
system is included with the submittal. Proposed landscaping
is in conformance with the overall landscape plan for
Wildridge Acres.
The building is a two story wood frame building with a
walkout basement and gable roofs. Exterior building
materials include wood siding (8" channel rustic cedar),
stucco and masonite shingles (Woodruff) The driveway will be
covered with asphalt in conjunction with the street paving.
Curnutte reviewed the criteria for granting final design
review approval. He stated that Staff recommendation is for
approval with the following condition: Final Staff review
and approval of proposed drainage and driveway/road
intersection plans.
Steve Riden described the changes made to this particular
house from the previously approved homes. Discussion
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followed on the roof lines.
Discussion followed on the landscape plan. Other than the
drip system to help get the trees started, there will be no
irrigation system. Discussion followed on the need to add
top soil. Jack Hunn stated that he felt that the landscape
plan is not complete enough to be considered for final
approval. He also voiced concerns with the design of the
house, stating that snow and water would shed right to the
garage door and to the entry. He suggested changing the
direction of the siding etc., introducing more siding and
less stucco, or vice versa, to make these residences look
different from the others, rather than using the roots to
make the difference. The roof forms should be changed to
prevent snow and water shed to the entry. Discussion
followed on the stain samples. The use of semi -transparent
stairs rather than solid body stains was discussed.
Discussion followed on the siding to be used. Further
discussion followed on the comparisons with the previously
approved residences.
It was decided that the Commission should look at the other
two proposed houses (Lot 9 and Lot 10) in this project before
taking action on Lot 5.
Jim Curnutte stated that the materials etc. to be used are
virtual -;y the same as Lot 5. He reviewed the building ratios
of each Lot. Regarding Lot 10, there is a first level deck
as shown protruding eight feet from the building on the plan
and elevation drawings and only six feet on the site plan and
this should be clarified.
Riden stated that the deck is eight feet. He then described
the changes in Lot 9 from Lot 5. Lot 10 is significantly
different. It is the first two story building. He described
the ridgelines of each house.
The Commission felt that a smaller scale overall site plan
showing the units as sited, showing all the roof plans,
would be helpful in the reviews of this project.
Railton asked if all the doors and windows will have the wide
trim. Riden stated they would.
Hunn pointed out some concerns he had with the design of the
two houses. He still had concerns about the shedding of
water and snow into the entry. He stated that he felt that
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Lots 5 9 and 10 Wildridge Acres Subdivisions_ Steve Riden
for Bob Kedrowski Dubois, Huntoon._and VestResidencest
Final Design Review
the introduction of stone to Lot 10 is interesting but needs
to be extended horizontally under the window and taken around
the corner. He had concerns with the dormer also. Riden
described how the dormer was situated. Hunn stated that the
back elevation should be studied a bit as it is a blank plane
and needs to be reconsidered. Hunn stated he felt that the
houses are at a preliminary level rather than a final design
level.
Perkins stated he agreed with that statement. He feels the
applicant should review the comments made and try to
incorporate them. Perkins stated that the landscape plan
should be approved prior to any TCO being issued.
Kedrowski stated he would like to keep the colors as
proposed, but using the two shown on the samples with a
lighter application. He proposed coming back to the next
meeting with a color scheme for each Lot. They will also
have the overall landscape plan at that time. Railton stated
that the colors should include the stucco color, the window
color, the door color, everything should be set out for each
building. Kedrowski agreed. Discussion followed on the
window design on Lot 9. Kedrowski stated that this is the
way the buyer wants it done. They can bring the top windows
together. The entry on Lot 9 would benefit from a gable.
Discussion followed on how to do this.
The Commission felt that the applicant should study the
suggestions and come back in two weeks with the changes that
they are willing to do.
John Perkins moved to continue the design approval process
for Lots 5, 9, and 10, Wildridge Acres Subdivision, until the
next regularly scheduled meeting of December 4, 1990. The
applicant is to take the comments and recommendations heard
at this meeting and apply thise to each specific house and
the landscape plan will be an overall landscape plan.
Perkins stated it should be as specific a plan as possible.
Riden stated that they will provide a proposed plant or
material list and a general idea of how the plantings would
be used. Perkins stated that he felt this would be
sufficient.
Reynolds seconded.
The motion carried unanimously.
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Jim Curnutte reviewed the combined building and floor area
ratios. The maximum building height of any building is
approximately 25 feet from finished grade to the peak of the
highest ridgeline. He stated that the project will be
comprised of four different building layouts. He provided a
color coded map showing the area around this project and
showing what is built and what each lot is zoned. He stated
that there is a landscape plan which provides for an
irrigation system. The proposed buildings are two story w000
frame buildings with gable roofs. Exterior building
materials include tongue and groove cedar siding, concrete
porches, cedar shake shingles and a limited use of brick. He
stated that the applicants intend to stain the sidings all
one color, semi -transparent stain Driftwood. They would use
three different solid color stains for the trim and fascia.
These would be a blue, navajo red and white.
Curnutte reviewed the concerns the Commission had at
conceptual stage of the project. He then reviewed the
criteria to be considered for final design approval. He
stated that this project is not a fee simple single family
lot type situation. It is more a townhouse situation with a
homeowners association. The type and quality of both
building and landscaping materials are suitable with Town
guidelines. The quantity of landscape materials being
proposed is rather low. The siting and landscaping of the
buildings appears to be sympathetic to adjacent residential
properties. Large earth berms will be constructed at the
entrance to the project to lessen the visual impact of people
traveling Wildridge Road or Old Trail Road. A four foot wall
is proposed along the entire eastern boundry of the project.
Additional landscape clusters along the north property line
would be mutually beneficial to the residents of this project
and Suncrest Concominimums. The applicants landscape plan
states that "upon completion of the structures, parking areas
and drives, the balance of the natural vegetation will be
removed and replaced with grass seed, including the area
within the powerline easement." although the Avon Fire
Department has suggested removal of high fuel load vegetation
around buildings, the removal of all natural vegetation from
the property seems unwarranted.
Curnutte stated that the property is a very buildable lot.
It slopes toward the south at about 10%. The buildings have
been moved away from the steep cliff areas as suggested at
conceptual review. The easternmost building is proposed to
have a walkout basement. It seems that it would'be
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Lot 2 Block 1, Wildridge Subdivision_, David Marshal_1_for_The
substantially skylined as viewed from Wildridge Road. below.
The appearance of this project for the most part does seem to
be acceptable with the exception of the skylining of building
C. Curnutte stated that this project is dissimilar in
character from existing and surrounding projects. Currently
there is a tri-plex, two four-plexes, a five-plex, two
six-plexes that have been built in the immediate area. In
addition, the Commission has granted final design approval
for another duplex, two tri-plexes, and two four-plexes in
the immediate vicinity. He stated that the applicants have
decided not to include stucco into the exterior design ol' the
buildings, which is common in the Wildridge area. Curn-Atte
stated that despite these differences, staff does not feel
that this project, if approved, would result in a degradation
of property values in the area or have a negative aesthetic
impact.
Staff recommends approval with the following conditions:
1. The applicant consider removing the walkout basement
feature associated wiht building C and move it away from the
steep part of the lot as much as possible.
2. 'he applicant provide additional landscape clusters
throughout the project, especially along the north property
line. Natural vegetation should not be removed
unnecessarily.
3. The applicant consider incorporating some stucco into
exterior design of some or all of the buildings.
4. Prior to the issuance of any building permits, the
applicant needs to show compliance with the Town standards
regarding the entrance to this project.
David Marshall asked if the Commission felt that this project
would be acceptable on the lot.
Discussion followed on the positioning of one house next to
the berm. The Commission felt that this house should be
shifted a bit. Discussion followed on the various heights of
the buildings. It was felt that the house with the walkout
basement shoula be moved back a bit. The applicant will
leave the natural vegetation. They were just concerned about
the fire break. Discussion followed on the wall. It was
suggested
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that the fence/wall also be returned along the pot�erline
easement for some distan^e. Considerable discussion followed
on this subject regarding the materials to be used. It was
the general consensus that it should be something that would
prevent any one from stepping off the cliff. It was
suggested that the applicant contbct his insurance agent
regarding this matter.
Discussion followed on the appropriateness of this project in
this particular area. The applicant feels that this project
would be better than one eight unit building. At least he is
not blocking view corridors with this project.
Further discussion followed on the siting of the units on the
lot. Hunn stated that he felt that this is a well
coordinated solution, considering the continuity of the
roofing materials and same sidings, etc. The Commission
suggested maybe the use of brick, the removal of some trim
off of plan E. Hunn asked if the applicant would be happy
with a preliminary approval at this time and come back to the
next meeting December 4, incoporating some of the suggestions
given this evening. The applicant agreed. The Commission
indorses this concept on this site, but some of the finer
points of the plan, the landscape plan, and some of the other
comments have to be addressed.
Jack Hunn moved to give the concept of the project
preliminary approval and final design be continued until the
December 4, 1990 meeting.
Reynolds seconded.
The motion carried unanimously.
John Perkins stepped down as a voting member of the
Commission in connection with the nest item.
Review
Curnutte stated that this is a conceptual review for a single
family home. He stated that this is a large lot, about 2-1/2
acres, however, it is restricted by a building envelope.
About 3/4 of the lot is outside of the building envelope.
The house is a two and one-half story, split level,
southwestern style home, about 3000 square feet and the
maximum building height is about 25 feet. This is
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Lot 60 Block 3, Wildridge Subdivis_ion,_John__Perkins_for John
--A Donn., Wnot Rinala Family Residence. Conceptual__ Desi_n
conceptual, therefore there is no staff recommendation.
John Perkins stated that the applicants are very sensitive to
the environment of their lot. The applicant wishes to save
as much of the natural plant material as possible. The house
will be a southwestern style stucco design similar to the
house up on the ridge. It nestles into its site very well.
The site concept is to come off the cul-de-sac with a very
gradual driveway into a garage From the garage to a common
entry way and up to a kitchen entry area. That elevation
would establish a ceiling height above the kitchen area of a
standard eight foot ceiling. The ceiling height then would
extend itself horizontally out to the west and the rest of
the hcuse would step down with the contours of the site. He
described how the excavation would be done. He stated that
the applicant wants to install a sprinkler system for the
site. He will also introduce wildflower seed out away from
the house. He will have a list of all the natural vegetation
when they return for final design review. He provide some
three dimensional sketches of the project for the Commission
to study. Discussion followed on the compatibility of this
type of residence in the area. Discussion followed on the
natural vegetation on the site.
The Commission felt that this would be an appropriate project
for this site.
Reading and Approval of Planning and_ Zoning. Com_miss_i_on
Minutes for November 7, 1990
John Perkins moved to approve the minutes of the November 7,
1990 meeting as submitted.
Jack Hunn seconded.
The motion carried unanimously.
Other Business
John Perkins stated that he would like to update the
Commission on the Christie Lodge Pool project. He stated
that he had the upper curtain walls taken down as he was
disappointed in the two higher panels at the angular top,
because they did not fabricate them with the angle of the
roof line. Those two will be completely remade and the rest
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Other Business
of the upper ones will be fitted properly.
Further discussion followed on the project.
Discussion followed on the increasing amount of trailers
being parked in the commercial district alon Metcalf.
Also boats and RV's are being parked C£here next to the
mechanic shop.
The meeting was then adjourned at 10:30 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
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Charlette Pascuzzi
Recording Secretary
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