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RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
� MINUTES OF PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING
JULY 5, 1990
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The regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission was
held on July 5, 1990, at 7:30 PM in the Town Council Chambers
• of the Town of Avon Municipal Complex, 400 Benchmark Road,
Avon, Colorado. The meeting was called to order by Chairman
Frank Doll.
Members Present: Frank Doll, Buz Reynolds
Clayton McFory, John Perkins
Sue Railton,
Staff Present: Rick Pylman, Director of Community
Development, Jim Curnutte, Planner
Chairman Doll stated that all members were present except
Jack Hunn and Terri Jeppson.
Chairman Doll stated that the first item to be considered is
the approval of the Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
Minutes from April 17, 1990; May 2, 1990; May 15, 1990; June
5, 1990; and June 19, 1990. John Perkins moved to approve
all five sets of minutes as presented. Buz Reynolds
seconded. The motion carried unanimously.
Lot 23, Block 1, Benchmark at Beaver Creek, Wo Ift_Warehouse.
Review of Special Review Use Conditions
Rick Pylman stated that this all started July 1989 when the
Planning Commission approved a Special Review Use to allow a
residential unit within the Wolff Warehouse. The purpose of
the unit was to house on-site management. The resolution
contained five conditions. Condition #3 states that this
Special Review Use be reviewed the first meeting of February,
1990. This item has been tabled several times. This review
is to determine if the Special Review Use should be continued
or revoked. First condition was that the use of the
residential unit be restricted to the employee of the
landlord and no subletting of that apartment is allowed.
Condition two is that young children between the ages of 2
and 10 be prohibited from living on site because of the
Proximity of the traffic and hazards. Condition four states
that the employee of the landlord be in fact the on-site
manager. Condition five stated that the clean-up of the site
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Lot 23, Block 1. Benchmark at Beaver Creey Wolff Warehouse_
Review of Special Review Use, (contl
begin on or before August 1, 1989, and be substantially
completed prior to September 1, 1989. Pylman stated that he
is not aware of any violations of these conditions. He
stated that most of the problems have bernn associated with
parking and in part was aggravated by the lack of strong
on-site management. Staff recommends that this Special
Review Use be continued and maintain conditions 1, 2, and 4.
He also requested that the Commission discuss with the
applicant increasing the utilization of the managers unit to
eliminate the parking problems.
Paul Wolff stated that most of the problems have been tenant
problems. At the beginning of the year the tenant causing
the most problems left. He stated that he is in the process
of getting a new on-site manager and feels that there will be
better management.
Mr. Wolff stated that the parking problem has been rectified.
Chairman Doll stated that if the parking problem is not
solved, the Special Review Use will have to be revoked. Mr.
Wolf stated that this is why he is in the process of
obtaining a new on-site manager.
Perkins asked for a list of the tenants of the building.
Mr Wolff stated that in the lower part of the building, which
is the south end, there is a moving and storage company; in
the center section there is going to be a furniture storage
and used furniture sales; in the above unit there is a lease
with a limousine company, who illegaly leased to the rafting
company. At this time the rafting company is in there but
only contingent on the use of what is allotted to the
limousine company for parking spaces and that they do not
block the parking area. They are not allowed to store the
rafts in the parking lot.
Perkins asked what the arrangement with the new manager
consists of. Wolff stated that he is trying to make
arrangerients with the manage- of the moving and storage
company to be the on-site managers. That way they would be
there at all times. The current manager is to be out at the
end of this month.
Discussion followed on the usage by the moving and storage
company. Wolff stated that the company only runs two trucks
and at short periods of time there may be semi -trucks either
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Lot 23, Block 1. Benchmark at Beaver Creek, Wolff Warehouse_,
Review of Special Review Use. (contZ
loading or unloading.
Reynolds stated that he has no problem if there can be some
parking restrictions on the trucks. Wolff stated that he has
had no complaints regarding this particular company.
Pylman stated that copies of the leases have been provided,
showing what spaces are allocated to each business. He
stated that he has discussed the problem with the manager of
the moving and storage company and he is aware of the
problems.
Perkins moved to grant continuance of the Special Review Use
for the Wolff Warehouse and that the five conditions remain
in force and the appropriate dates be forwarded and that the
on-site managers name and telephone number be on record with
the Community Development Department and that he be notified
that he would be subject to periodic reviews or notification
of any problems on that property.
Reynolds stated that he would like to see the approval be for
six months.
Perkins amended his motion to so state.
Pylman stated that the fifth condition has been taken care of
and need not be included.
Perkins then amended his motion to state the first four
conditions, adding that the manager's name and number be
included.
Reynolds seconded.
The motion carried unanimously.
ail Furniture
Jim Curnutte stated that in 1985 the Planning and Zoning
Commission approved a special review use permit for retail
sales to the Blue Steel Gunshop. One of the conditions of
the approval was that any change of that use or occupancy of
the building come back for review of the parking
requirements.
Staff has determined that the number of spaces necessary for
Mr. Shelton, Vail Furniture, would be seven spaces minimum.
On June 19, 1990, the Commission tabled this application for
lack of information regarding the assigned parking spaces at
this location. Mr. Wollf, the owner of the building has
provided this information to Staff. This information has
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Lot 23 Block 1. Benchmark at Beaver Creek,. Vail Furniture_,,
Parking Review, (cont)
been reviewed by Staff and show that sufficient provisions
are in place to assure compliance with the Town's parking
requirements.
Curnutte stated that Staff is recommending approval.
Dan Shelton stated that there will be someone there from, 9 to
5:30 and if there are any parking problems he knows where to
go.
McRory moved to grant approval of the parking review for' the
new retail business in the IC zone district, Lot 23, Block 1,
Benchmark at Beaver Creek, Wolff Warehouse, with no
conditions attached.
Sue Railton seconded.
The motion carried unanimously.
Lot 7 Block 1, Wildridge Subo_vision_,_ Garton Duplex. Final_
Design Review
Jim Curnutte stated that Dave Garton is proposing to
construct a duplex on Lot 7. This application was tabled at
the last meeting in order to give the applicant time to
provide plans drawn to a greater level of detail (especially
the elevations); A model of the building or at minimum a
roof plan to be provided; The suggestion that the applicant
look at a full two car garage instead of a one car garage; A
more detailed landscape plan should be provided which shows
additional landscaping adjacent to the building; and The
applicant should look at ways to reduce the impact of the
overhanging dick and provide for some screening of the
structural members if necessary. The deck should be much
closer to natural grade.
Cirnutte stated that Michael Hazard has addressed every one
of these concerns.
Mr. Hazard stated that he hopefully has properly addressed
all the concerns. He stated that they have provided three
more elevations rendered with more shadows, as well as a roof
plan. In terms of the deck and its relationsnip to grade,
they have dropped the deck relative to grade to bring the
profile down lower. They have indicated treatment to the
underside of the deck and they have provided a photo of a
similar condition that was done on the Vail Golf Course.
They have addressed the concern for the amount of paving and
the landscape treatment against the home. They have reduced
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Lot 7 Block 1 Wild;idge Subdivision, Garton Duplex, Final
Design Review, (cont)
the area of paving. He pointed out the areas on the plans
provided. He also pointed out the existing grade and the
proposed grade and the elevations. He stated that the garage
is now a two car garage.
Further discussion followed on the elevations. Discussion
followed on the colors to be used. A semi -transparent
stain, Olympic 716, will be used. A white stucco, # 611,
will be used.
Discussion followed on the dedicated easement, however, due
to several people talking this discussion is not clear.
Perkins moved to grant final design approval to the Dave
Garton residence at Lot 7, Block 1, Wildridge Subdivision, as
presented.
McRory seconded.
The motion carried unanimously.
Rick Pylman stated that at the last meeting approval was
granted to the Porte cochere architecture and some other
aspects of the building and the applicant was asked to come
back after a color sample had been put on the building. This
has been done. Pylman then turned the meeting over to Mark
Donaldson to explain the thinking behind the color scheme.
Donaldson stated that the idea is to paint the interior of
the corridors along the north side of the interior faces of
the balconies a much lighter color since they are always in
shade or shadow. The exterior color is a single stucco color
and the accent color is for the balcony caps and the parapet
wall caps around the building.
Chairman Doll stated that the Commission had been on a site
visit and had gone up to Beaver Creek and viewed the
project.
The Commission was of the general consensus that the earth
tone color was more suitable than the proposed colors. They
suggested that perhaps a rust color for the trim would be
better than the proposed trim color. Discussion followed on
the reasoning for the proposed colors. Donaldson stated that
this is what the owners want for colors. Discussion followed
on the trim and caps areas. Perkins stated that they had to
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Lot 63 Block 2. Benchmark at Beaver -Creek. Grand on Avon
Design Review. Colors. (cont)
be real careful about the colors used or the building will
look worse than it looks now. He feels that the contrast
should be played down, not accentuated.
Donaldson stated that they are trying to turnaround a failed
project. The owners feel that they have a color scheme that
works for the year round as the landscape changes with the
seasons. They want a unified single exterior color; they
want to lighten up the interior balconies; and they want to
accent the balcony rails. He needs a consensus of where they
have to go to get approval from the Board.
Further discussion followed on what should be a proper color
scheme.
The general consensus of the Commission was that the building
color should be somewhat darker and the trim should not be so
harsh.
It was suggested that the applicant try some more samples, in
earth tones, on the building for the Commission to view.
Considerably more discussion followed.
Perkins moved to continue the color selection approval for
the Grand on Avon to such a time as the applicant has time to
provide somemore recommended colors on the building and time
for the members of the Commission to do a speedy review.
Reynolds seconded.
The motion carried unanimously.
= Revisions
Jim Curnutte stated that in Feburary, 1989, South Harbor
received final design approval of a side by side duplex on
Lot 7. Less than six months later a building permit was
issued for that building and a foundation was poured. Work
was stopped at that point. On March 6th, 1990, a new idea
was proposed and approved for that foundation. This proposal
was substantially different from the original approval. Most
notably, it went from a side by side duplex to a an
over/under duplex. This proposal is the third revision for
the foundation. The idea is to go back to a side by side
duplex on the foundation, very similar to the first approval,
although incorporating some of the building design from the
second approval. Some of the changes are:
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Lot 7 Block 1 Filing 1 Eaglebend Subdivision South Harbor
Development Final Desican Review - Revisions (cont)
1. The basement in the east unit has been
eliminated and replaced with a crawl space.
2. The east and west units are side by side rather
than staggered, as in the first proposal.
3. Several new windows and doors have been added.
4. Roof pitch has changed.
5. Chimney covers have been added.
6. Truss detail has been added.
7. Roofs over tKe dining room which were gable
type roofs are now flat roofs, which also serve as walkout
balconys for upper level bedrooms.
8. Additional landscaping has been provided.
9. The decks are much larger than the first two
original approvals.
10. It appears that the basement level of the west
side unit includes a third dwelling un -:t.
Curnutte stated that it appears that most of the proposed
changes do add interest and diversity to the buildi,g.
Curnutte then reviewed the site plans of the previous two
approvals.
He stated that this proposal does have parking in the
frontyard setback, closer than 10 feet to the property line.
It would appear that the encroachment of the decks as they
head toward the river would have the potential of erosion
and disturbance of the natural habitat. Staff would like to
see these pulled back from the edge of the bank. Also, the
basement level third unit :ill have to go and should be
removed from the plans completely. Also the words on the
site plans "walkway to lower level apartment" should be
removed.
Tony Seibert first addressed the third dwelling unit, stating
that this was a mistake on both his part and the architect's
part. There was no intention of putting a third dwelling
unit in. He had instructed the architect to take the
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Lot 7 Block 1, Filing 1, Eaglebend Subdivis.ion,_.SoutiHarbor
Development Final Design Reyiew_=_Revisions. (cont-_
approved landscape plan and the basement plan from the one
set of plans and combine them with the other plan. He
assumes that this is how the statement about the walkway got
on this plan. He stated that the elevations, the
fenestration, etc., of the new plans are much more
architecturally and aesthetically pleasing. He is committed
because the foundation is set. Regarding the parking, the
parking on this proposal is what was approved in the last
approval. They definitely need four parking spaces on that
site. The other entry way falls inside a twenty foot
easement that the water district is requiring because the
easement gives them access to the water collector system.
This infringes on Lot 7 by about 12 feet, therefore, he
cannot use that space. Discussion followed on the double
entry that will serve two lots.
Chairman Doll stated that they should discuss the comment
about pulling the decks back from the river. Tony Seibert
stated that the west unit looks directly out at the water
collector. This is not an attractive scene. Discussion
fol.owed on what could be done to keep the decks from
disturbing the area and still provide a view of the river.
Further discussion followed on the parking situation.
Perkins moved to grant final approval to Lot 7, Filing 1,
Eaglebend Subdivision, with the staff recommendations as
noted with the addition that on condition 1, that the
applicant and staff would work out an acceptable access and
parking arrangement trying to eliminate some if not all of
the paving in the front 10 feet.
McRory seconded.
The motion carried unanimously.
Jim Curnutte stated that the applicant is proposing to
construct a single family residence on Lot 7, Block 2,
Wildridge Subdivision. The lot is slightly under one and a
quarter acres in size and is assigned two development rights.
The building coverage is about 2,400 square feet. The floor
area is about 2,700 square feet. The building does not
exceed 30 feet over finished grade. The house is set back 25
feet from the front property line, although there is an
encroachment of a building overhang as shown currently. A
landscape plan has been provided. The building is a two
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Lot 7 Block 2 Wildridge Subdivision__ Han_qartner Residence
Conceptual Design Review, (cont)_
story, wood frame building. Materials are wood siding,
stucco and red cedar shingles is the roofing material. Color
samples will be discussed and probably be brought to the next
meeting. The driveway will be covered with :asphalt.
Curnutte stated that more detailed information is necessary
to review proposed site drainage, grading and revegetation.
He stated that since this is conceptual, no formal action
will be taken, but the applicant would appreciate the
Commission's comments.
Curnutte stated that the applicant had contacted Norm Wood
regarding the possibility of putting an individual septic
system to service this lot. The reason for the request is
that the finished floor elevation of the basement level of
this unit is some 10 to 15 feet below the nearest sewer line.
There are sewer lines out at the road and along the north
property line, but as currently shown on the property, it
would require a pump station, or exploring some other
alternatives. One example is changing the location of the
garage and the house, so that you are driving into the garage
off the road and the house can get as close up into the
corner as possible. They could get a flow if they were to do
this.
Stephen Richards, representing Mr. Hangartner, stated that
they wanted to keep the house as low and tucked into the
hillside as possibla, so it would not stick out, and also to
protect it from the wind. The applicant is adverse to a lift
station. Mr. Richards stated that the applicant is aware
that there is no way to put in a septic system because of the
size of the lot. If the house is raised, they would possibly
be able to hit the manhole in the street, but this would put
the lower level about seven feet out of the ground and from
the downhill side you would see two decks.
Discussion followed on the locations of the manholes and what
would be needed, and where the taps would be. Discussion
followed on the installation of a lift station, however,
several conversations were being conducted at the same time,
therefore, none of the discussions are clear.
Discussion followed on changing the location of the house.
The general consensus of the Commission is that they would
prefer the use of a lift station rather than move the
location of the house. The Commission felt that the way the
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house sets as proposed is nice. Mr. Richards stated that he
would relay the Commission's comments to the applicant.
Other Business
Chairman Doll reported that all the funding for the railroad
crossing has been approved. The State of Colorado has
approved 3.4 million dollars and 1.25 million dollars from
the railroad, 40,000 dollars from Beaver Creek and 1.3
million dollars from the Town. The preliminary engineering
plan has been presented to the Town once and will be
presented again on Tuesday. The only decision to be made is
to where the detour will go. West Beaver Creek was strongly
recommended by Centennial Engineering. He described what
will have to be done to utilize this detour. The Town is the
main agency in this matter. The State Highway Department
will be on hand and the railroad will do all their work prior
to the beginning of the crossing and after it is finished.
The preliminary engineering should be in the hands of the
State for what they call field inspection review and then it
goes back to Centennial for final. If the easements and
rights-of-way are aquired, the grade for the railroad detour
and the removal of the telegraph pole: line and the
preparation of the railroad detour crossing will take place
this fall. April 1, 1991 is the estimated start date.
Rick Pylman stated that a worksession with the Council has
been scheduled for Tuesday, July 10, to discuss the zoning
changes and the Commission is welcome to attend.
Buz Reynolds moved to adjourn.
John Perkins seconded.
The meeting was then adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Charlette Pascuzzi
Recording Secretary
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