PZC Minutes 050190PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
MAY 1, 190
The regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission was
called to order at 7:30 PM, May 1, 1990, in the Town Council Chambers
of the Town of Avon Municipal Building, 400 Benchmark Rd., Avon, Colorado.
Members Present: Frank Doll, Clayton McRory, Buz Reynolds, John Perkins,
Jack Hunn, Terri Jeppson, Sue Railton
Staff Present: Rick Pylman, Director of Community Development
Jim Curnutte, Planner
Chairman Doll stated that a new Planning Commission member had been
Curnutte stated that the Staff feels that this application is in conformance
with the zoning code, under applicable Town regulations, with the exception
of the mechanics pit that is shown on the garage level of the plans. He
stated that the applicant has been notified that this would have to be for his
personal use only and not for a business.
appointed and then introduced Sue Railton as the member.
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The election of officers was the next item to be considered.
Frank Doll was re -appointed as Chairman and Terri Jeppson was appointed as
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Secretary.
Unfortunately none of the above was recorded and no notes were provided,
therefore no information regarding the parties making the nominations or
who was appointed Vice Chairman is available.
Lot 34 Block 3 Wildridge Subdivision Final Design Review
Jim Curnutte stated that this is a final design review for a single family
home in Wildridge. Bill Bergman will be representing the applicant.
Curnutte stated that the lot is about 3/4 cf an acre in size. The building
footprint is about 1100 square feet for a very small building area ratio.
The building is approximately 3440 square feet. The building height does
vary. At one point it does exceed the normal 35 feet, to about 39 feet for
a small portion. The house is setback about 35 feet from the front property
line and 11-1/2 feet from the property line on the east. A landscape and
re -vegetation plan have been provided. The building is a three story wood -
frame building with a gable roof, stucco, ane? proposed asphalt roofing material.
They are requesting that the driveway be left as gravel for a period of time,
to allow it to become compacted before applying the asphalt.
Curnutte stated that the Staff feels that this application is in conformance
with the zoning code, under applicable Town regulations, with the exception
of the mechanics pit that is shown on the garage level of the plans. He
stated that the applicant has been notified that this would have to be for his
personal use only and not for a business.
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Lot 34 Block 3 Wildridge Subdivision, Final Design Review, Continued
Regarding the suitibility of the improvement, the materials are stucco, with
wood trim and asphalt shingles. Staff suggests that the asphalt shingles be
of substantial weight to provide texture.
Staff feels that the improvement is compatible with the surrounding properties
and also with the topography.
Staff recommends that a better grading plan be provided before a building
permit is issued and also that the applicant apply for a road cut permit and
the driveway entrance be constructed according to Town standards.
Bill Bergman provided color chips for the stucco which is 11102 Cameo, which is
a light beige.
Reynolds asked about the use of the pit. Mr. Bergman stated that the applicant
has a corvette which he will work on in the pit. He is not a public mechanic.
Bergman stated that there are some questions regarding the building code and
they may be eliminating it because of expenses.
Discussion followed on the installation of an asphalt roof.
McRory stated he had a problem with the building design itself, in that it is
very boxy, very massive. Reynolds also had problems with this problem of the
boxy look. Perkins suggested doing something like giving the building more
of an alpine character, because the form suggests that, it might help the
look of the building. Extending the overhangs could help. Window shutters
might add to the building. The grading plan does need work. The stone walk
and stairs will help but more detail is needed. Hunn stated that he did not
feel the house relates to the site at all. He also has problems with asphalt
roofs, especially since this is a very visible house. The request to forgo
paving for a time probably should require a deposit. Two other homes have
been granted permisssion to leave the drive in gravel for a year and one of
them has been that way for three years. Hunn felt the grading and landscaping
plan need a lot of work. Railton agreed that the use of more wood trim
would help the look.
Chairman Doll stated that at this time the Commission is not ready to give the
applicant final design approval.
Reynolds moved to table this application to the next meeting.
McRory seconded.
The motion carried unanimously.
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Chairman Doll stated that the staff will discuss both the final design review
and the fractionalization at the same time, however, separate motions will
be required.
Jim Curnutte stated that he would begin with the fractionalization and then
move on the the design review. He stated that Mark Donaldson is representing
the applicant. They are requesting a six unit residential complex, two tri-
plex buildings. In each tri-plex building two of them will not exceed 1200
square feet. that is 3/4 of a development right. The center unit will not
exceed 800 square feet. Four development rights are assigned to this lot.
This fractionalization will result in six units.
Curnutte reviewed the criteria for approving the fractionalization. He stated
the access has been reviewed by the staff and at present does not meet Town
standards. However, Staff feels that this can be adequately addressed at
building permit time. They would be required to obtain a road cut permit and
at that time they would be required to meet Town specifications.
Curnutte stated that Staff does not feel that the character of this project would
necessitate the extention of transportation facilities to this project.
Staff does not feel there will be any significant impact on public or private
services by this development.
Staff feels that this project is compatbile with the existing and potential
development in the area.
Staff recommendation for the fractionalization is for approval with the
following conditions:
1. That the issuance of the building permit be subject to staff approval of
an adequate drainage plan.
2. That the entrance being shown as being in compliance with the Town
standards.
3. Written permission from Holy Cross Electric for the proposed improvements
within the Holy Cross easements.
4. At permit time, exact indication that the building does not encroach
into the setbacks or the Holy Cross easement.
5. Approval of the materials to be used.
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Lot 101. B
Final
Moving on to the final design review, Curnutte stated that this lot is
slightly over an acre, 49,658 square feet. The building footprint of both of
these structures together come to approximately 5,150 square feet for a
building area ratio of 11%. The combined floor area of the two buildings is
approximately 6,380 square feet for a floor area ratio of slightl? under
13%. Maximum building height is well below the maximum allowed, at 30 feet.
Roughly half of the lot is unbuildable due to the Holy Cross Electric easement
and the standard setback requirements. A very good landscape plan and
irrigation plan has been submitted. The buildings are two story, wood frame,
with gable roofs. Exterior materials are wood siding, stucco, red cedar shingle
roofing material. Color renderings and material samples will be presented by
the applicant.
Curnutte stated that this proposal is in conformance with the Town Zoning
requirements. The type and quality of the building and landscape materials
are suitable with the Town's criteria. The siting and landscaping of the building
is compatible to the adjacent residential properties and is compatible with
site topography.
Curnutte stated that this is a complete application and applicant is asking for
final design approval.
Staff recommends approval with the following conditions:
1. Prior to issuance of the permit, applicant would have to show compliance
with the Town standards with regards to drainage and driveway width, etc.
2. Written authorization authorizing applicant to install improvements within
their easement.
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Mark Donaldson stated he was representing the applicant, John Bruen. He
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a large utility easement. He stated that they are pursuing a letter from
Holy Cross. 11e stated that their standard response is that you cannot build
a habitable structure within their easements. The applicant will provide the
letter as soon as it is received. The use of the easements for parking, drives,
landscaping, etc., has always been in conformance with their allowed uses
within their easements. Pertaining to the site design, they chose the
downhill entry in order to provide good visibility coming and going. They
have oriented all of the living spaces of each of the six townhome units
toward the south for the views across the valley and the solar access and by
having ail_ the parking on that side they get a very beneficial snow melt for
the parking. There is good drainage patterns across the site with continuous
filter galleries for treatment of the parking lot runoff along the south edge
of the pavement. They have provided two car garages for all six of the units.
Therefore there are twelve covered spaces provided and twelve uncovered spaces
directly in front of the garage doors and additional parallel parking with
ample room for passing along the south side.
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Donaldson stated that they have created a project entry sign with accent
landscaping around it. He stated that at the rear of the site they have
provided walkout patios to each of the six units. This adds appeal when
driving along the north road, looking at the rear of the project. They broke
the project up into two buildings rather than one large building mainly for
more separation of the units. Each of the six units has a covered entry to
the front door. They are as far apart from one another as possible. They
feel that they have made the highest and best use of the property by maintaining
all the other restraining setbacks, etc.
Donaldson provided the colors. The wood siding is color 10606 and the trim
color is number 777.
Discussion followed on the colors to be used, but due to other conversati'QA&_
andotherinterference transcription is not possible.
Hunn asked if they would be individually owned or would there be a rental unit?
Donaldson stated that they will all be individually owned. Hunn stated that he
did not have a problem with the fractionalization. He did question the flue
cap detail. Donaldson stated the object is to hide the manufacturers standard
terminal cap and the spark arrester. Hunn asked if the garage doors would
be wood or metal. Donaldson stated that they will be a masonite door that
would be painted to match the wood siding. Roof drainage was then discussed.
It was suggested that the short section over the middle unit be guttered and
downspouted, Donaldson agreed that this would be a good idea. Hunn also
suggested maybe more decorative railing on all or some of the units.
Donaldson stated that they designed it this way for more privacy. Further
discussion followed on color placements. Hunn suggested a semi -transparent
siding color and use a solid color on the trim element. Donaldson stated that
they feel the solid body paint would give better success as far as preserving
the wood. Discussion followed on the landscaping of the west corner.
Donaldson suggested regrading that area to make a more a^pealing land form.
Hunn was concerned with the caliper of the trees. Discussion followed on the
matter of the trash truck maybe having to back out.
Perkins stated that he liked the project. He feels it is well designed and he
is pleased to see a fractior.ilized project that makes sense. He would like
to see some deviation between the two buildings, especially on the north side.
Reynolds stated that he felt this fractionalization is done in good taste.
He likes the project.
Railton stated she feels it is a very competent design.
McRory stated that he likes the project. He asked if there will be any
lighting at the entry. Donaldson stated that there will not be lighting there.
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John Perkins moved that the fractionalization scheme as proposed, the four
unit zoned be extended to six units under the Town of Avon's fractionalization
code be approved for Lot 101, Block 1, Wildridge Subdivision.
Chairman Doll asked to hold the motion and then opened the meeting for
public comment.
The owner of Lot 95 and Lot 104 stated that he has mixed emotions regarding
this project. He asked if this is permitted in Wildridge. The Chairman
replied that it is. He stated that he is concerned about how these units
will look down the road in a few years. He does not want a tenement building.
Donaldson stated that the 1200 and 800 square foot unit sizes are common in
the area. He stated that they did not generated a design for it to become
a tenament or apartment type project.
Curnutte stated that he had received a letter from the owner of Lot 100
stating that he did not feel that fractionalization was in line with the
intent the original subdivision was approved under.
With no further comment from the public, Chairman Doll closed the public
hearing.
Perkins stated that this is the kind of project that this valley at a whole
is looking for at this time.
Further discussion followed on how this project will affect the future
development in the area.
John Perkins amended his previous motion to include all five of the staff
recommendations in regard to fractionalization.
Reynolds seconded.
The motion carried unanimously.
Pe:•kins then moved to grant final design review to the project as proposed
oa Lot 101, Block 1, Wildridge Subdivision, with the staff recommendations and
the condition that the parking lot on the northwest corner be retained with
a natural stone retaining wall, lessening the degree of slope.
McRory seconded.
The motion carried unanimou&ly.
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Lot 67 68 Block 2 Benchmark at Beaver Creek, City Market, Conceptual
Design Review
Rick Pylman stated that he and Mark Donaldson have been working together
with this, but there is no prepared statement on this item. This is
only for conceptual review on the expansion of City Market.
Mark Donaldson stated that this expansion is being driven by a specific
request from the Avon Beaver Creek Resort Association and the Town of Avon
in order to be able to occupy 5000 square feet of office space on the south
end of the project. The expansion will house the Avon Beaver Creek Resort
Association offices and an Eagle County Branch Library facility on the'south
end of tha project. On the north end of the project they will be proposing a
10,000 square foot retail expansion for immediate use by the store.
The 5,000 square foot expansion will be dealt with in the form of a five
year lease between the Town of Avon and City Market. At the end of five
years that will be vacated and the store will take over.
The west side or entry side will be redesigned and re -orient the pedestrian
traffic and storage of the grocery carts. On the east side there will be
a back room addition. Donaldson proceeded to describe the various locations
of the expansions.
Donaldson stated that the most interesting aspect of the project proposal is
to add employee housing units. The two sites have a total of 14 whole
residential development rights and can be fractionalized under the current
ordinances at a ratio of 2.5 to 1. This would be a maximum of 42 units.
They will be proposing 16 housing units on the site. On each of the two
expansions on the wings of the building the ceiling heights can be kept to a
minimum, thereby allowing one story residential units to be built on top.
That maximum height would be only 6 or 7 feet taller than the existing
parapet line. They want to retain the grocery store look. The architectural
look and colors will be in line with the neighborhood. With this proposal
they will be using 8 whole residential rights leaving 6 which would be put on
the market for sale. The parking lot situation will also be corrected.
One of the agreements that the Town Staff has made with the applicant is that
by allowing the temporary use of the Resort Association and Library offices it
would not negatively impact the execution of a proper sign program or the
ability to take advantage of the 15% large lot reduction for a single use
site. the 15% reduction would take the 221 spaces down to 188. The residential
requirement would be at the rate of 1-1'2 spaces per unit there would be a
requirement of 24 spaces and an additional 5 guest spaces for a grand total
of 217 spaces. The 15% was applied only to the grocery store use. One of the
uses that the Town has requested is the location of a recycling center on
this nroperty. It is approximately 10 x 10. It is loaded from the side and
is compartmentalized. Fifty percent is dedicated to paper goods, a quarter
is glass and the other quarter is for aluminum products. It would be
located in a very visible spot, but not near the entry.
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Donaldson described the entrances to the Resort area and the Library and
the stairway leading to the residences. tie stated that they will keep open
the pedestrian way that connects this property with the Wal-Mart property.
The above was the end of tape one. No recording was made of the comments
from the Commission members. Tape two goes on to the next item on the agenda.
Lot 63 Block 3 Wildridge Subdivision Bruce Kelly Residence, Conceptual
Design Review
Jim Curnutte stated that this is a conceptual design review for a single
family residence. He stated that the lot is about 34,000 square feet.
The site is actually very flat with the exception of getting on to the property
J off the road. The house is proposed to be setback about 95 feet from
Wildridge Road and 20 feet from the west property line and 50 feet trom the
south lot line. This is a pie shaped lot. No landscape plans have been
submitted at this time. Proposed building is a gabled roof, two story,
exterior materials are 10 inch diameter stained and peeled logs. Natural
spruce with buff colored chinking, trim is proposed to be painted white,
roof material is proposed as asphalt shingles, color and material samples
will be presented by the applicant. More information will be necessary
regarding site drainage, grading and revegetation, specifically the long
driveway. It is recommended that the driveway width be a minimum of 16 feet
and that the maximum slopes do not exceed 1-1/2 to 1. The applicant will
also have to look at the possible need for a retaining wall along the driveway.
Since this is a conceptual review no formal action will be taken at this time.
Bruce Kelly stated that this will be a custom log home. He stated that they
feel Wildridge is the perfect place for a log home. He then provided
preliminary site plans for the Commission to study. He provided pictures
of houses similar to the one they are proposing. He stated that he has a
beginning landscape plan. He asked the Commission for comments on what he
will need when he comes in for final design review. He provided some color
samples, stating that they have not really decided which color they will use.
Discussion followed on the colors. He stated that the window trim will be
the artic white.
Chairman Doll stated that the Commission was interested in how he plans to
access the site. Mr. Kelly stated that he is just going by what the architect
and the excavator and what they said they could do and he is not prepared to
answer the question as far as what the plan is. He stated that they
suggested using boulders if there is a need for a retaining wall.
Perkins suggested that this would be a good idea. He stated that he liked the
plan for the house.
Considerable discussion followed on the cut of the driveway and the need for
a retaining wall.
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Lot 63, Block 3, Wil.dridge Subdivision Bruce Kelly Residence uonceptuai
Design Review, Continued,
Perkins asked why the detailing on the east elevation was not the same as
on the other sides. Mr. Kelly stated that they just did not draw them on.
Mr. Kelly stated that he would like to keep the natural look with the land-
scaping but would also like to include some trees. He plans to replant
grasses that are native to the area.
Reynolds stated that he did not have any problems with the house and suggested
that the applicant work with the staff to solve the problems with the
driveway.
Hunn commented that he felt that it is a good fit, the house with the site,
and the lot is a good setting for the house. He feels that the asphalt roofs
are out of character with logs. He feels that log homes look better with a
heavy textured roof like a cedar shake. He asked what the base of the building
would be below the logs. Mr. Kelly stated that the exposed concrete would be
stucco the same color as the chinking. Mr. Kelly stated that he is concerned
that he will have too much maintenance with cedar shake. He would like to
have them, but is more concerned with the maintenance. Further discussion
followed on roofing, windows, and doors. Hunn also commented on the land-
scaping regarding the use of cottonwoods in that area. He suggested that a
lot of trees be planted tho. Perkins stated that he would also like to see
the cedar shake.
Discussion followed on what would be needed for the driveway.
The Commission wished the applicant good luck and stated that they will look
forward to seeing the final design.
Lot 7 Block 1 Wildridge Subdivision Conceptual Review
Rick Pylman stated that he has not done a staff report since this is a
conceptual review and suggested that the applicant just give his presentation.
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Michael Ge*tan stated that they are planning on separating this project into
a series of buildings rather than having it under one huge roof. This will
be called the Garton Family Compound. He provided elevations, and color
samples.
Chairman Doll stated that the Commission made a tour of the lot and their
question is how the applicant plans to fit all of this on the lot. The
applicant stated that they are stretching it up the hill. What they are
trying to do is retain as much privacy as possible from the adjacent multi-
plex units. They also want to create as much privacy between both homes as
possible, even though they are connected. They have done that by splitting
the access. The applicant described some of the colors, however due -to
the rattling of the plans the comments are 'not transcribable.
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Lot 7, Block 1, Wildridge Subdivision, '_onc�ptual Review Continued
Also, some discussion followed on t'iie elevations details. Also discussed
was the woodburning fireplace in the lower level.
Chairman Doll asked what the roof would be. The applicant stated that they
would be cedar shingles. Chairman asked about the access to the lot. -Bue-
to-mach-interference-x-he-response is not transcribable.
The Commission stated that they will look forward to the final design.
Other Business
The issue of asphalt shingles was discussed further. It was suggested that
possibly a special meeting can be held to resolve the problem. Jack Hunn
stated that he has ordered samples of every product on the market that
simulates a wood shake. Chairman Doll suggested coming in at 6:30 instead
of 7:30 on the night of the meeting after the samples are received. Further
discussion followed on what the Commission needs to set as a minimum standard.
Perkins moved to adjourn.
The second is not transcribable due to too many other conversations being
conducted at the same time.
The meeting was adjourned. No time was stated.
Chairman D611 Stated that since the Recording Secretary was not present
there were no minutes to approve.
Respectfully submitted, .
Charlette Pascuzzi
Recording Secretary
Approved t
Frank Doll
Clayton M-�
Buz Reynol
Terri Jepp
John Perki
Sue Railtc
Jack Hunn