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PZC Minutes 041790PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES APRIL 17, 1990 The regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order at 7:30 Pit, April 17, 1990, in the Town Council Chambers of the Town of Avon Municipal Building, 400 Benchmark Rd., Avon, Colorado. Members Present: Frank Doll, Clayton McRory, Buz Reynolds, John Perkins, Denise Hill, Jack Hunn , Terri Jeppson Staff Present: Rick Pylman, Director of Community Development Jim Curnutte, Planner Block 1 Revi Rick Pylman stated that this item has been continued several times. He stated that a letter from Paul Wolff is included in the packet stating that he is still having some problems. Mr. Pylman suggested that this item be continued indefinitely and set a hearing for this review when Mr. Wolff is able to make it. Jack Hunn moved to continue Lot 23, Block 1, Wolff Warehouse review indefinitely. Buz Reynolds seconded. The motion carried unanimously. Lots 13 14 15 16 17, Block 2 Wildridge Subdivision Conceptual Development Review l Jim Curnutte stated that Mark Donaldson was present, representing Robert Kedrowski, with a conceptual review of taking Lots 13, 14, 15, and 17, which are currently approved for 4, 6, 2, and 4 units respectively, and combining this, vacating lot lines and coming out with a different configuration, basically e single family subdivision. A SPA amendment procedure and resubdivision procedures would be required. Mark Donaldson stated that since the application was made the contract for Lot 17 has fallen through, therefore, the concept will be for 12 single family lots and eliminate the idea of lot _7 and will preclude the use of lot 16 for access. These will be true single family homes, ranging from 1200 to 1600 square feet. They feel they can limit the overall building heights, and building square footages. Donaldson stated there are very good views from the locations and they have tried to maintain open view corridors. Existing Lot lines will need to be vacated and reconfigured and platted. They have located the existing facilities for water, sewer, electric, telephone, fire protection, etc. and have indicated same on the plat. They have tried to conform to the existing guidelines and covenants that exist in Wildridge, in terms of setbacks. There are no private road standards that exist, so they are proposing widths less than what would be required for a public street. ." "N PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES APRIL 17, 1990 Page 2 1 k What they are trying to do is provide true individual ownership. Donaldson provided some photos of the site. Ile asked the Commission for some feedback if this is a desireable concept. He stated that there are 12 whole development rights, with the deletion of lot 17, and they are avoiding fractionalization altogether. The lot sizes should range from 9,000 to 12,000 square feet. He stated that there is a lower portion on Lot 15 that falls off dramatically, and they are proposing a green belt area there and an access way. Ile described some of the regrading they propose to do to balance out some of the areas. He stated that they have had considerable interest in this particular project. Donaldson then introduced Bob Kedrowski. Mr. Kedrowski stated that he had in mind four different types of residences. All of them will be approximately 1250 square feet, 1280 square feet maximum, two car garages, with seven or eight with walkout basements, which would be an additional 800 square feet that could be finished off later. What he had in mind for colors was basically four colors for the siding, four for the fascia, four for s. co, and the shingles all one color. He stated that they do not want anX-off.)street parking and no fences. There would be some sort of. ;f associatisri set up to maintain the private roads. That is something that still has to be worked out with the Town of Avon. Reynolds asked if they would all be built at the same time. Kedrowski stated that they know that they have three of them sold and have had good response so far. They could be totally built out in 18 months and totally landscaped. Reynolds stated that he would not like to see them sell a lot and let the buyer build something different than the planned units. Kedrowski stated that they had no intention of just selling the lot. Hunn asked if the Town was concerned about the turning radius for emergency vehicles? Pylman stated that the road design is something that needs consider- able work. He stated that he felt they can work with the fire department to make sure that they get the radius they need for the trucks. Further discussion followed on this matter and the road grades. Discussion followed on the control of the locations of the four types of units. Hunn stated that he felt they are meeting a market need and would support this concept. McRory stated he was concerned with the small size of the single family units. Donaldson stated that the ones with the walkout basement would make them approximately 2,000 square feet. Hill asked if this would require notification to all property owner. Pylman stated it would require notification and public hearings. PLANNING AND ZO:4ING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES APRIL 17, 1990 Page 3 1 Discussion followed on toe lot sizes, common grounds, etc. Hill asked if the applicant would be willing to provide a technical model? Donaldson stated that he felt that they could do that in graphics, and color renderings. He stated that they could do a land form model showing the regrading, lot line layouts etc. Perkins stated that he thought this was an interesting idea. He was concerned about the lots and houses being too small. He stated he felt that they should be careful with the grade on the streets and driveways. McRory asked if there was adequate resources for gas, electricity, drainage, etc. for this subdivision. Pylman replied there was no problem. Jeppson voiced concern about on street parking. Donaldson stated that adequate parking will be provided in that there will be the two car garage and an apron covering the width of the garage. She stated she liked the idea of the project. Discussion followed on site coverage allowances. Perkins suggested the applicant look at a two story variation to maybe keep away from the tract look of the subdivision. Landscaping was then discussed. The applicant felt that the natural look should be maintained. The applicant stated that they would get back to the Commission regarding the irrigation. Doll summarized the comments, stating that there seems to be general support for the project. The Commission would like to see a land form model, the types of buildings to be built,they want to see the street problems worked out and they want to see how much will be owned by the buyer and how much will be common space, how the snow plowing will be handled and how the landscaping will be taken care of. Reading and Approval of the April 32 1990, Minutes. Jack Hunn moved to approve the minutes of the April 3, 1990 meeting as submited: Denise Hill seconded. The motion carried unanimously. Other Business Chairman Doll stated that he had voiced the Commissioon April regarding the Eagle River, to the Council. There is a meeting p nat the Vail Library, and there is one at the Minturn Town Council at 7 PM. ,AN .Ao� a. ra PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES APRIL 17, 1990 Page 4 Other Business Continued He stated that the Council is in favor of anything that can be done and the Commission's remarks were well timed. Rick Pylman stated that Steve Riden was present to discuss some requested changes to the approved materials to be used on Lot 3, Block 3, Benchmark at Beaver Creek. This was not received in time to be included on the agenda. Steve Riden stated that they would like to substitute some material changes. He provided the model and a color rendering. He stated that originally they had proposed stopping with the brickwork toward the back side of the building and continuing with a common block all the way around again till they passed the doors of the car wash area. At this time the would like to propose a different kind of block that would be a sandstone color. He described the areas that they wished to use this block. Considerable discussion followed on the type of block they wish to use, and where it will be used on the building. The purpose of this is to cut down on the various types of materials to be used. They will eliminate the stucco and use only the siding, brick and block. Discussion followed on the entrance of the building, and the materials to be used there. It was decided that they should also use the block in that area also. Perkins moved to allow the material changes as presented, with the exception that the applicant use the block material on the lower portion of the entry portal columns for Lot 3, Block 3, Benchmark at Beaver Creek. Riden stated that he had another change he wished to propose. The applicant is asking that he be allowed to eliminate the red cedar shakes. He explained that there is a lot of roof and the shakes do not fit the building. He stated that there is a product that is fiberglass, but is of a high quality and durable. He provided a brochure regarding this material. This is what they are asking approval of. Considerable discussion followed on this matter. Doll asked that the Commission consider the motion on the floor made by Perkins. Reynolds seconded the motion. The motion carried unanimously. Perkins moved to deny the request to change the roof material and require the applicant to stay with the cedar shake shingles. Hill seconded. The motion carried with one nay. "-s 4*N ^ P, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES APRIL 17, 1990 Page 5 Other Business Continued Further discussion followed on the use of asphalt shing'.es. Chairman Doll suggested that the Commis;ion discuss the proposed zone change for the Benchmark Mobile Home Park. He stated that there is a proposal to buy the 22 acres of land. Che contract hinges on a number of conditions that the buyer has put forth. He has asked the Town of Avon and the surrounding business community for a number of considerations, in order to make it what they call affordable employee housing. These include waiving tap fees, which the Town cannot do. It also includes a proposed off-site parking for 150 vehicles c -i Tract P, which the Town cannot do anything about_, because they do not own Tract P. Included also is subsidising the rents to make it affordable. They are scheduled to come in to the Planning Commission with their zone change request in the near future, possibly within two weeks. They also want consideration of fractionalization and development rights. The Town can do something on fractionalization, but the Town cannot do anything about assigning development rights that do not exist. Chairman Doll cautioned the Commission to remember that when they do come in the only thing to be discussed will be re -zoning. Discussion followed on the plan the proposed buyer provided for re -locating the current residents. Further discussion followed regarding the Master Plan and the re -zoning issue and the re -location matter. This was the end of tape I and no other tape was recorded, therefore there is no record of the time of adjournment of this meeting. Respectfully submitted, Charlette Pascuzzi Recording Secretary Approved Frank Do Clayton Buz Reyr Terri JE John Pe: .Ben-ise-i Jack Hlllu.