PZC Minutes 101789RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
MINUTES OF PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING
OCTOBER 17, 1989
The regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission was
held on October 17, 1989, at 7:30 PM in the Town Council
Chambers of the Town of Avon Municipal Complex. 400 Benchmark
Road, Avon, Colorado. The meeting was called to order by
Chairman Frank Doll.
Members Present: Frank Doll, John Perkins, Jack Hunn,
Buz Reynolds, Clayton McRory,
Denise Hill, Terri Jeppson
Staff Present: Norm Wood, Director of Community
Development; Jim Lamont, Acting Planner;
Charlette Pascuzzi, Recording Secretary
Lot 72 Block 2, Benchmark at Beaver Creek Buck Creek Plaza
Building, Parking Variance, Public Hearing
Jim Lamont reviewed the history of the Buck Creek Plaza
Building, stating that, the building was constructed under
County regulations, prior to the Town of Avon incorporation.
The majority of the uses in the building have been considered
as pre-existing conditions and have not peen required to
conform with Town of Avon parking regulations. He stated
that current regulations would require forty-two spaces for
existing uses in the building. There are approximately
twenty-five spaces on site.
Lamont stated that in 1984, a Special Review Use was approved
for the additcn of seven off-site parking spaces at Christie
Lodge to allcw expansion of the applicant's business into a
previously undeveloped and unoccupied portion of the
building. This variance application is for the elimination
of the parking required for the 1405 square feet of business
floor area which was added at that time. The conditions of
the Special Review Use approval were met through a lease
between the applicant and the Christie Lodge Owners
Association. Provisions within the lease permit permits the
Town of Avon to cancel and rescind any Certificate of
Occupancy that was issued to the applicant based upon the
availability of parking spaces covered by to lease agreement.
Approval of this variance would negate the need for the
previously approved Special Review Use.
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October 17, 1989
Page 2 of 11
Lot 72 Block 2. Benchmark at Be __ -.1 Pa_z_a
Building Parking Variance _ Public_ Hearing, cont
Lamont stated that the requested variance is of greater
magnitude than any previously granted parking variance in the
vicinity. All buildings constructed under Town of Avon
regulations have met parking standards.
Lamont commented that the variance, reterred to by the
applicant in his application, was granted for a building on
Lot 21, Block 2, Benchmark at Beaver Creek. Atter detailed
site and parking layout analysis, the variance was requested
for three parking spaces. The variance was denied by the
Planning and Zoning Commission, and appealed to the Town
Council. The Council approved a variance for one parking
space and required the remaining two parking spaces meet the
size standard for compact car parking spaces. The one
parking space variance was granted because, if the space had
been provided, its location would have interfered with access
to loading and trash facilities.
Lamont stated that the variance request does not appear to
significantly effect light and air, distribution of
population, transportation and traffic facilities, public
facilities and utilities, and public safety. However, the
lack of availability of overflow parking may cause traffic
congestion at the driveway entrance during peak traffic
periods of the year. The adjacent street intersection could
be adversely effected from the standpoint of public safety.
No specific traffic survey and parking usage information
exist to verify the actual usage of on-site parking and
traffic flows for the building.
Lamont commented that financial hardship, as stipulated in
the application, is not usually considered as a practical
difficulty or unnecessary physical hardship in the review of
a variance request.
Lamont stated that, generally, all sites in the zone district
would qualify for the off-site parking provision of the
zoning code as a remedy for parking deficiencies. This
provision is typically used to insure that the amount of
parking is kept in balance for the entire zone district. No
parking decisions have substantially affected the amount of
parking necessary to insure that the zone district will have
sufficient parking at full development and occupancy.
Lamont stated that Section 17.32 - Nonconforming Uses and
Structures, provides for remedy of nonconformance of
structures which existed prior to the existence of the Town
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October 17, 1989
Page 3 of 11
Lot 72, Block 2. Benchmark at Beaver -Creek, Buck,Creek_Plaza
Building Parking Variance. Public Hearing,�ont_1
of Avon.
Because of the off-site parking lease agreement, the
applicant appears to not have been deprived of privileges
enjoyed by other property owners in the same zone district.
Lamont stated that the findings required are standard
language.
Regarding staff recommendations, insufficient information has
been &ubmitted to determine that the applicant has been
deprived of privileges granted to other property owner's in
the district. Insufficient information has been submitted
that the providing of required on-site parking through a
off-site parking lease would cause practical difficulty or
unnecessary physical hardship.
Lamont stated that Planning and Zoning Commission Resolution
No. 89-12 has been prepared for denial of the variance
application. He stated that the Commission should amend the
Resolution, to incorporate the appropriate findings and the
desired action of the Commission. This Resolution can be
easily amended to incorporate the required t,ndings for
approval as well as denial.
Norm Wood stated that in addition, based upon more
administrative review following the development of the staff
report, this variance request onct be denied, as the original
approval was for a Special Review Use, which requires
approval of both the Town Council and Planning and Zoning
Commission, whereas, the variance is not that degree of
approval, and requires only the approval of the Planning and
Zoning Commission, unless appealed to the Town Council. That
is based upon Section 17.20.020, paragraph C of the Zoning
Code, which states, "No approved Special Review Use may be
modified, structurally enlarged or expanded in ground area,
unless such modification, enlargement, or expansion receives
prior approval of the design review board and the Town
Council. Which approval shall be obtained by repetition of
the granting procedures provided in this chapter."
Therefore, the applicant will be required to go through the
same procedure for a Special Review Use to eliminate the need
and then the approval of the variance in order to retain, or
eliminate the requirement for the parking spaces. Wood
stated that the onl., option would be to continue the variance
request for a specific amount of time to allow for time to go
through the Special Review Use procedure.
Planning and Zoning
October 17, 1989
Page 4 of 11
Commission Meeting Minutes
Lot 72 Block 2. Benchmark at Beaver Creek, Buck Creek Plaza
Building Parking Veriance, Public Hearing (cont)
Pat Cuny, principal owner of C. J. Corporation, stated that
it was her understanding that the Special Review Use was
denied by the Planning and Zoning Commission and was approved
by the Town Council, in the form of a lease, and that lease
says that it is in perpetuity, unless the Town Council
rescinds the lease. She stated that it is her understanding
that if the Planning and Zoning grants the variance, then she
can go to the Town Council and ask them to cancel that lease
they have under Special Review Use. She stated that she
didn't believe the Council would cancel the lease unless she
has the variance from the Commission.
She stated that when Beaver Liquors opened they had one
floor, and then in 1985 they went before the liquor license
authority to change the footprint of the store. The Town
Liquor Authority approved the change, and the State also
approved the change. They spent all summer putting in the
basement wine cellar, and two weeks before they were to open,
the Town informed them that they needed more parking. The
Town informed them that only option was for them to tend
off-site parking, which they did with a leasa with Christie
Lodge, which states that it has to be a perpetual lease.
Since then they have seen people come through asking for
variances, reterring to the variance granted by the Town
Cuuticil to 182 Avon Corporation. She stated that, in her
mind the Town Council granted a special privilege to this
business and they want the same consideration and compromise.
She stated that the 182 Avon Corporation changed the uses of
the building, which created their parking problems. She
stated that at the time of their expansion, they did not
change any uses in the Buck Creek Plaza Building, they only
expanded floor space. Cuny stated that in the time span of
the lease not one car has used the off-site parking. They
feel that they have gone overboard to work with the Town to
get the lease signed, to continue to pay since 1985, and to
work with Christie Lodge. Christie Lodge would not allow
them to put up reserved signs, the spaces are behind the
building on the upper level of the parking structure and it
is impossible to educate or direct their customers to park
back there.
Cuny stated that she was a little concerned on some of the
comments in the staff report.
She stated, regarding the statc-;ent of more magnitude, The
magnitude of the 182 Avon corporation changes in their
building uses is much greater magnitude than what C. J.
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October 17, 1989
Page 5 of 11
Lot 72 Block 2. Benchmark at Beaver Creek. Buck Creek Plaza
Building, Parking Variance Public Hearing,. cont
Corporation did.
Regardin: cho comment that all buildings constructed under
Sown of Avon Regulations have met parking standards, Cuny
replied that they would have too, if the Town had been here
before them.
She stated that the important words under letter B of the
staff comments are "uniformity of treatment among sites". If
the variance is denied tonight, she didn't see any uniformity
of treatment among sites. She stated that the comment about
the variance given to 182 Avon Corporation does not bring out
the fact that the two remaining spaces meet the size of the
compact car parking spaces. The Town ordinance states that
the compact car parking spaces can only be underground. She
feels that 182 Avon Corp got two variances, one for the
parking space and one for compact car spaces on top of the
ground.
Regarding the comment that financial hardship is not usually
considered as a practical difficulty or unusual physical
hardship, she stated that people stand at the podium all the
time and tell the Commission about monetary hardships. She
used Palmer Development statement that they have a financial
hardship that they could not buy all of the property for the
Wal-Mart shopping center, so the Town of Avon bought the
parking lot. Mr. Pesch, of 182 Avon Corporation stated that
he could not lease the remaining space in his building
without a parking variance. She stated that they feel that
having to have the lease for the seven parking spaces is a
financial hardship because th:y are not being used. If the
parking places were right next door, it would be easy to tell
their customers to use them. She stated that the practical
difficulty is that the off-site parking is behind a building
across the street. Regarding the exceptional or
extraordinary circumstances, they feel that the fact that
they were here before the Town was is an extraordinary
circumstance. She stated that another bulla ig in the same
zone district, built under County regulations has been given
a parking variance.
Rick Cuny, also a stockholder in C. J. Corporation and
principal stockholder in Beaver Liquors and Lips Too, which
resides in the building, stated that common sense should
count for something , and what common sense dictates is that
these spaces have never been used and will never be used,
because they are so far away. He stated that the monthly
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October 17, 1989
Page 6 of 11
Lot 72 Block 2. Benchmark at Beaver Creek, Buck Creek Plaza
Building, Parking Variance Public Hearins,_(cont
price he pays almost becomes a ransom note so that he can do
business in the Town of Avon, as opposed to paying for
something that gives him some value. He doesn't feel that
this should go on any longer.
Pat Cuny stated that they have never had any adverae traffic
effects from not using those parking spaces.
Doll then opened the public hearing.
Lynn Weas, Maraging Director of the Christie Lodge, stated
that he did not want his comments to be influential. He
stated teat his position is to state the condition relative
to the variance and his present status. He would take
exceptian in that the lease is not in perpetuity by any
means. The lease has very distinct periods within it. As
far as Christ?e Lodge is concerned, the lease is non-existent
at this time. Vie lease is defaulted. The lease, as provided
for in paragraph four, was never renewed under the terms of
renewal. Therefore, the lease was terminated on June 30,
1988. He stated that he is very intF-ested because this
variance, as it addresses Resolution 84-30, also effected the
Christie in a change of parking from 430 spaces to 401
spaces. He asked that this not be disturbed, regardless of
the outcome. This is his main concern in being here.
Wood explained that, at that time, in order to qualify for a
mixed use, large lot parking reduction, it required the
Special Review Use. The regulations have since been revised.
Perkins asked if the Christie would consider leasing spaces
in the front east lot to Beaver Liquors. Weas stated that
the businesses that are now in there and are coming in will
tax that area and he would feel uncomfortable with lea -A ng
those spaces.
Doll asked if there was any other public input regarding this
matter. With none forthcoming, Doll closed the pohlic
hearing.
Discussion followed on the fact that the applicant only added
space to an established business, not adding a new business.
Rick Cuny stated that adding the space did not mean that they
would have more bodies coming in the door.
Discussion followed on the vehicles that are parking in the
vacant lots.
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Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes
October 17, 1989
Page 7 of 11
Lot 72 Block 2. Benchmark at Beaver Creek � Buck_Creek Plaza
Building Parkins Variance Public Hearin�,__con�.
Rick Cuny stated that this is a condominimum association
problem and no matter what is done, there will never be
enough parking for the businesses in that building.
It was suggested that some of the employee vehicles could be
parked there. Cuny stated that this will be approximately
two cars. It was suggested that the other businesses could
participate in using off-site parking for employees. Cuny
stated that the other businesses in the building are not
willing to do this.
Discussion followed on the matter of the lease being
terminated. Wood stated that there is a provision in the
lease that if it is terminated the Town has the right to
revoke the certificate of occupancy for that space that it
was issued to cover the parking requirements for, and also it
would be in violation of the Special Review Use, which states
as one of the conditions that the lease for the parking
spaces shall be perpetual in nature and shall endure for as
long as the requirement "•r which they were leased exists.
once the lease is not in place, they are in violation of tl.L�
Special Review Use.
Dol" stated thatthere is a problem here that is beyond the
cPpability of the Commission to resolve. There is a
violation of a Town ordinance that allowed this to take
place, through the non-payment and the expiration of the
lease and he does not think that the Commission has the power
to go ahead and do anything except deny the variance and
instruct the applicant to appeal to the Town Council. He
stated that the Commission has never approved a variance for
parking.
Considerable discussion followed regarding whether the
applicant should go to Town Council first or if the variance
should be granted or denied first.
Perkins asked Norm Wood if he felt that the Commission should
act on the variance. Wood stated that under the variance
provisions, if you have specific information that you need to
make a good decision with, you can table or continue action
for up to a thirty day period, for further information and
review. Perkins asked Lamont what information does the
applicant need to provide. Lamont stated that from the
technical side, occupancy figures, usage of the lot, and
monitoring of the parking lot.
Buz Reynolds moved to continue this application for a period
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October 17, 1989
Page 8 of 11
Lot 72 Block 2 Benchmark at Beaver_Creek.Buck—Creek Plaza
Building Parking Variance Public Hearing. lcontj
of 30 days to allow the applicant to approach the Town
Council.
Jack Hunn seconded.
Further discussion followed.
McRory asked if a variance could be granted with the
conditions that if it approved by Council that they do not
have to come back to Planning and Zoning.
Wood stated that the Administrative interpretation at this
time is that the variance cannot be considered until the
Special Review Use has been modified, which means that it has
to come back to the P & Z for the Special Review Use and then
go to Council.
Further discussion followed or why this parking requirement
was required.
The motion carried unanimously.
Lo'' 63 Block Z bencnmarn aI,-
r ina. Sign Variance
Jim Lamont stated that the applicant requests a sign having
two sign faces with different copy on each face be given a
variance for the size of the sign from the required 16 square
feet to that of 24 square feet.
Lamont, commented that the proposed sign does not appear to
have an adverse relationship with existing or potential uses
and structures in the vicinity.
No existing sites in the vicinity have been granted similar
size variances for development signs. Compatibility and
uniformity of treatment among sites in the vicinity has been
consistent. The size variance does not appear to adversely
effect light and air, distribution of population,
transportation and traffic facilities, public facilities and
utilities, and public safety. No other factors and criteria
appears to be applicable to the proposed variance.
Insufficient information has been submitted to determine that
the applicant would not receive a grant of special privileges
inconsistent with the limitation on other properties
classified in the same vicinity.
Planning and Zoning
October 17, 1389
Page 9 of 11
Commission Meeting Minutes
Lot 63 Block 2. Benchmark at Beaver Creek _ Peregrine
Building Sian Variance (cont)
Charlie Gersbach, Vail Associates Real Estate, stated that
since making the application, they have discussed with staff
to take the sign and put the back to back and put them
perpendicular to the building, which would reduce the size by
half, this would be the 24 square feet they are requesting.
The owners want to incorporate the Fuller name with Vail
Associates.
Lamont stated that the sign location had been received
belatedly and the requirements are that they have to be 10
feet back from the property line.
McRory moved to grant the sign variance for Lot 63, Block 2,
Benchmark at Beaver Creek, Peregrine Building, with the
condition that it is set 10 feet back off the property line.
Jeppson seconded.
The motion carried unanimously.
Lot 2 Block 1. Filing 11 Eaglebend _ Subdiv_ison__,
Inter -Mountain Engineering. Ltd.. Color Change. _Desi-qn_Review
Lamont stated that the applicant requests that the exterior
for the residence located on Lot 2, Block 1, Filing 2,
Eaglebend Subdivision be changed from Cape Cod Gray to a
natural cedar color.
He stated that the project appears to meet the applicable
rules and regulations of the Town of Avon.
The type and quality of proposed color is compatible with the
existing structures in the vicinity. The visual appearance
of the proposed color does not appear to pose any deleterious
effects from adjacent and neighboring properties. The
proposed color change does not appear to impair monetary and
aesthetic values, and the proposed color change appears to be
in general conformance with the adopted Goals, Policies and
Programs for the Town of Avon. Staff recommendation is that
specific color samples should be available for review by the
Commission.
Jeff Spanel, Intermountain Engineering, Ltd. provided a
sample of what was approved and what is being requested as
the change in color. They are semi -transparent colors.
Hill moved to approve the color change for Lot 2, Block 1,
Filing 2, Eaglebend Subdivision, from the previous gray to
Devoe ST92 Desert Beige, as presented by the applicant.
Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes
October 17, 1989
Page 10 of 11
Lot 2. Block 1 Filing 2 Eaglebend Subdivision. Color
Change, Design Review (cont)
The motion carried unanimously.
'_(89 Regular
Nunn moved to approve the minutes of the October 3, 1989
minutes as submitted.
Hill seconded.
The motion carried unanimously
Other Business
Doll stated that since this is the last meeting for Jim
Lamont, he wanted to express his thanks and appreciation for
the work that he has done. The Commission unanimously
seconded this comment.
Doll then thanked all the members for their attendance at the
Master Plan meeting and for their participation.
He stated that the next meeting is in three weeks.
Doll stated that there is nothing new to report on the
railroad crossing other than they are proceeding. The next
big step is to appear before the district highway commission
in Grand Junction on October 25th.
Further discussion followed on the total parking situation in
the area of the variance request previously discussed and the
process for getting the vehicles off the vacant lots. Wood
stated that what would be needed would be a complaint from
the owner of the property. Further discussion followed on
the problem of employee parking.
Reynolds moved to adjourn.
Perkins seconded.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:05 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Charlette Pascuzzi
Recording Secretary