PZC Minutes 101888RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
MINUTES OF PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING
OCTOBER 18, 1988
The regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission was
held on October 18, 1988, at 7:40 PM in the Town Council
Chambers of the Town of Avon Municipal Complex, 400 Benchmark
Road, Avon, Colorado. The meeting was called to order by
Chairwoman Pat Cuny.
Members Present: Tom Landauer, Frank Poll, Pat Cuny,
Denise Hill, John Perkins, Buz Reynolds,
Clayton McRory
Staff Present: Lynn Fritzlen, Director of Community
Development: Charlette Pascuzzi,
Recording Secretary,
Fritzlen introduced Kit Williams, who, on behalf of the
Benchmark Condominium Association is requesting approval for
a paint color change to the Benchmark Conodminium's exterior
finishes.
Cuny asked if it would be done now?
Mr. Williams stated that they have a contractor coming up
t3morrow, based on approval tonight, to start doing the prep
Nork on the building. It will probably take a week to do the
prep work on the first building. They will start with the
"D" building which is closest to the Interstate. They will
do one building at a time and as long as the weather holds
they will continue right on through the project. If not they
will break at a complete building and finish up in the
spring. Discussion followed on possibly waiting until spring
to start the project. Mr. Williams stated that they are
anxious to get something done. If the weather holds the
contractor thinks he can be finished within thirty days. Mr.
Williams stated that, optimistically they hope to get at
least two buildings done at this time. They need to get
started soon because some of the stucco is deteriorating.
Mr. Williams presented the colors for the buildings as being
a bone color for the stucco and a grey color for the siding.
Cuny stated that she had a concern regarding the roofing of
the Benchmark Condominiums. She asked if they were aware
that one of the buildings has a metal roof and three of them
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have shake roofs? The roof is supposed to be shake not metal
and the project is in non-conformance.
Mr. Williams stated that the next project that they will
pursue is replacement of the roofs. They wish that the metal
roof had never been installed as they have had more problems
with it than the others with the shake. He stated that he
would also search his files for any more information on how
the metal roof came to be installed.
Perkins moved to approve the
Block 2, Benchmark at Beaver
to finish the work in thirty
Landauer seconded.
colors as submitted for Lot 2,
Creek, and urged the applicant
days as stated.
The motion carried unanimously.
Review
Cuny stated that the record should show that Tom Landauer
stepped down due to a conflict of interest.
Fritzlen stated that Tom Landauer, on behalf of L.A.L. Inc.
is requesting final design review approval for an addition to
the Benchmark Shopping Center building as shown on the
drawing provided. The addition is approximately 206 square
feet. It does not increase the site coverage because it is
placed underneath the existing overhang for the shopping
center. The addition is on the northeast side of the
building. It does not increase the parking requirements
since these are related to the number of seats and this
addition is for storage. She stated that approval from Jim
Cunningham had been received. She stated that one concern
was that the Benchmark Shopping Center Building encroches
into the 7.5 foot side setback. This building was built
before the zoning was imposed on this area. She stated that
there has been some discussion regarding interconnecting
sidewalks between this building and the proposed building on
the Otis property and this storage shed does call for a new
sidewalk to go around it, but it does cut into the straight
shot that was there before.
David McIlvain, manager of the Hole -In -The -Wall Restaurant
stated that this would be strictly for storage.
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Reynolds asked what would be stored in this addition.
McIlvain stated that only dry goods will be stored.
Perkins stated that maybe they ought to look at extending the
sidewalk straight across, in line with the covered part that
is out beyond the offset. He felt that this could a
detriment to any kind of nice connection that could be ever
be made to the adjacent property, but he thinks it could be
solved if they were willing to put a sidewalk straight in
line with the one on the offset and maybe do some landscaping
between the sidewalk and the backdoors and storage area.
McIlvain stated that they had no objection to doing a
straight sidewalk.
Further discussion followed on the placement of the sidewalk
and possible landscaping.
Landauer stated, that as tenants of the building, they do not
have any jurisdiction over any area other than what has been
approved by the owner and therefore they are not going to do
anything in the other areas indicated by the Commission.
Further discussion followed.
Reynolds moved to approve the Hole -In -The -Wall Restaurant
building addition with the addition to the application that
the sidewalk go straight across the back.
McRory seconded.
Perkins stated that he felt there should be a little bit of
landscaping between the walk and the building.
Reynolds stated that since it is on the north side of the
building it would be difficult to grow anything. Perkins
stated he would like to see some evergreens along there.
Landauer stated he would too if they could get Cunningham to
do it.
Cuny asked if Reynolds wished to amend the motion.
Reynolds stated, no.
The motion carried with Cuny and Perkins voting nay.
Cuny informed Mr. McIlvain that they had an illegal sign over
the door of the Hole -In -The -Wall Restaurant on the patio
side.
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Fritzlen stated that Jacqueline Montgomery of South Harbor
Development Corporation is seeking final design review
approval on a proposed duplex on Lot 12, Block 1, Filing No.
1, Eaglebend Subdivision. She stated that this proposal
received preliminary design review approval at the October 4,
1988 meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission.
Fritzlen stated that they have completed the application as
requested. The landscape plan that they propose has two
aprons of sod on either side of the building, along with
other plants as shown on the drawings.
Fritzlen stated that one other thing that had been requested
was to provide a hammerhead or means by which exit from the
garage would allow for straight on entry into the street.
Fritzlen then described, for the benefit of the Commission
members that were not present at the preliminary approval
meeting, the location of the proposed project.
Fritzlen stated that the Staff Report recommends approval
with the submittal of a grading plan acceptable to the Town
Engineer as there are some discrepancies between the
subdivision plat topo and what is presented here, but it is
fairly easily worked out.
Tony Siebert stated that he was representing South Harbor
Development. For the Commission members that were not
present at the last meeting, Mr. Siebert reviewed the
project, stating that they are trying to alleviate the
mirror-image by creating as much movement as possible on the
elevations. He stated that they were using an eight inch
cedar channel lap siding, cedar shake roof, and a lot of
dormors. The colors are essentially grey with a white trim.
The concept on the landscaping is to try to create sod
avenues and work them gracefully down towards the river and
create a natural grass barrier between the duplex. The large
trees on site will be kept.
Reynolds had concerns about the building being the same
elevation across.
Siebert stated that the site is a little tough to build on
because it does have a lot of slope. He stated that they
could move one unit up one or two feet above the other, but
the site is pretty level in that plane. Discussion followed
on the pros and cons of doing this.
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Lot 12 Block 1 Filing No. 1. Eaglebend Subdivision.
Fritzlen stated that the matter of mirror-image units had
been discussed at the previous meeting and did not seem to be
a problem in this particular area.
Further discussion followed on what they have tried to do to
take away from the mirror-image feeling.
Doll moved, regarding Lot 12, Block 1, Filing 1, Eaglebend
Subdivision, by the South Harbor Development Company, to
approve the final design as presented.
Landauer seconded.
The motion carried with Perkins voting nay.
Doll moved that the minutes of the last meeting be approved
as submitted.
Landauer seconded.
The motion carried unanimously.
Other Business
Perkins asked if there was anything new on the Ekrem
situation.
Cuny stated that it was discussed in length at the last
meeting. Joe McGrath was present at that meeting and Jeff
Spanel, who has a contract on the lot next door was concerned
about it. It does fall under "Home Occupation" and the
consensus from Joe McGrath was that the only recourse was if
it is found that they have employees, then they are in
violation of the "Home Occupation" ordinance.
Fritzlen stated that they are claiming there are unrelated
individuals living there. She stated that she had discussed
this with the Town Attorney and they do need to go through a
Special Review Use hearing process. Discussion followed on
the possible need to have the public hearing during the
design review approval process. Discussion followed on the
matter of them using the forge when a certificate of
occupancy has not been issued.
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Other Business (cont.)
Further discussion followed on the timing of the public
hearing process. It was decided that a 6:30 worksession
should be held at the next meeting to discuss the possible
changes to be made.
Cuny stated, for the benefit of the members that were not
here last meeting, they would review the conceptual plan for
Lot 65 and 66, Block 2, Benchmark at Beaver Creek.
Fritzlen described what the Otis Company plans show for this
property. Discussion followed on the proposed accesses and
pedestrian flow, stacking of cars, etc. Fritzlen stated that
the Council agreed that there should be an additional public
thoroughfare in the shopping center area. She stated that
she has been discussing the matter with both the
representatives of Otis Company and Jim Cunningham. She
described some of the access proposals that have been
discussed and discussion followed on them.
Reynolds moved to adjourn.
Hill seconded
The meeting was adjourned at 8:50 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Charlette Pascuzzi
Recording Secretary
Commission approval.
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P. Cuny
T . Land;
F. Doll
J. Perk
D. Hill
C. McRo
A. Reyn