PZC Minutes 021688PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
WORK SESSION
FEBRUARY 16, 1988
The Planning and Zoning Commission Work Session for February
16, 1988 was called to order at 6:30 PM.
The first item to be discussed was the proposed sign code
revisions.
Under Section 15.28.020 Definitions:
#1. "Building Front" was discussed, and the Commission
decided that they needed to consider this definition further
and discuss again at the next regular meeting.
#5. "Lot Front" changes were discussed, and the Commission
agreed on the proposed changes.
#9. "Sign Area", the Commission stated that they had no
problem with the proposed changes.
Section 15.28.080 Sign Allowance:
#A. "Individual Business Lot Sign" was discussed and the
Commission stated that they had no problem with the proposed
changes.
#B. "Multiple Business Lot Signs"
#1. Was discussed and the addition of "per lot front" was
approved by the Commission.
#2. The change from twelve square feet of sign area in
vehicular oriented locations to twenty square feet was
approved by the Commission.
#3. The changes proposed in this section was approved by
the Commission.
The Commission decided that further study of the sections for
temporary signs was needed and this section will be discussed
at the next regular meeting.
Wood then gave brief descriptions of the regular meeting
agenda items.
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
MINUTES OF PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING
FEBRUARY 16, 1986
The regular meeti^, of the Avon Planning and Zoning
Commission was held on February 16, 1988, at 7:40 PM in the
Town Council Chambers of the Town of Avon Municiple Complex,
400 Benchmark Road, Avon, Colorado. The meeting was called
to order by Chairwoman Pat Cuny.
Members Present: Mark Donaldson, Frao.k Doll, Mike Blair,
Pat Cuny, Tom Landauer, Charlie Gersbach
Members Absent: Buz Reynolds
Staff Present: Norm Wood, Director of Engineering and
Community Development, Ray Wright,
Engineering Technician, Charlette
Pascuzzi, Recording Secretary
Lot 21 Block 2 Benchmark at Beaver Creek, Avon Commercial
Building Parking Variance Request - Continued from 2/2/88
Charlie Gersbach stepped down as a Commission member due to a
conflict of interest regarding the above described agenda
item.
Wright stated that this item had been tabled at the last
regular meeting to give the Applicant the opportunity to
consider modifications to the design of the existing parking
lot, includitg covering some of the spaces, or considering a
variance to change the size of some of the parking spaces.
Wright reminded tha Commission that action must be taken on
an application within forty-five days of the date of the
meeting at which the complete application and supporting
material is first reviewed by the Commission. Staff
recommends that the Commission continue the application to
the next meeting, and direct Staff to prepare a Resolution
for adoption by the Commission reflecting the decision and
the reasons for approval or denial.
Wood stated that Staff had received a letter from the Rio
Grande Railroad after the last meeting requesting that the
letter be incorporated into the proceedings. The letter
stated that if approval is given that certain conditions be
incorporated into the approval.
Brian Pesch, President of 182 Avon Corporation, was present
to discuss this item. A presentation of redesigning the
parking lot was made, showing possibly moving the trash
dumpster, possibly relandscaping some areas, etc. Another
presentation was made showing changing the sizes of some of
the parking spaces to compact car size. Mr. Pesch then
reviewed their off-site parking options, none of which have
been fruitful.
Discussion followed on the method used to determine the total
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Lut 21 Block 2 Benchmark at Beaver Creek Avon Commercial
BuildinLParking Variance Request - Continued
number of parking spaces needed. Pesch stated that their
figuring shows that they need two spaces and the Staff
figures show that three are needed.
Cuny reviewed the comments received from the various adjacent
property owners regarding this matter.
Doll asked that the Staff comment on their opinion of a
variance on smaller parking spaces.
Wood stated that one of the reasons for limiting the compact
spaces to covered areas is that spaces tend to disappear this
time of year due to snow storage etc. Considerable
discussion followed on the matter of compact spaces.
Blair asked Staff if one more new space could be added to the
lot and how many regular spaces would have to be converted to
compact car spaces to give the total number of spaces needed?
Wood stated that from what he has seen on the site and
looking at the alternate plans, he didn't feel there are any
additional spaces on the site that conforms with the current
parking size and access requirements.
Blair moved to deny the application for variance as submitted
and direct applicant to resubmit the application for public
notice and public hearing for a variance in the size of
parking spaces for surface parking.
Wood asked if Blair was asking the applicant to start over by
submitting a new variance request.
Blair stated he meant for this variance request to be amended
to avoid having to start all over again.
Doll seconded.
After further discussion and consultation with the Staff,
Blair withdrew his motion so it could be restated.
Wood stated that all findings need to be reviewed.
Blair stated that after review of the criteria and under the
findings as required, that this would not be granting a
special privilege that would not be considered for any other
applicant. It would not be detrimental to the
public safety and welfare. The variance is warranted because
a strict and literal interpretation and enforcement of
specified regulation would result in a practical difficulty.
Blair moved that the Commission approve the variance on the
condition that a number of parking spaces be designated for
compact cars. Wood suggested that a limitation of no more
than thirty percent of the spaces be designated for compact
cars. He also stated that Blair needed to direct staf; to
draft a resolution stating these findings. Blair so included
these items in his motion.
Donaldson seconded.
Cuny stated that she felt that the granting of the variance
is constituting a granting of a special privilege.
The motion was defeated with Blair and Donaldson voting aye
and Doll, Landauer and Cuny voting nay.
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Lot 21 Block 2 Benchmark at Beaver Creek Avon Commercial
Building Parking Variance Request - Continued
Doll moved that the variance as presented in this application
be denied on the basis that it grants a special privilege,
inconsistent with the limitations on other properties in the
same district.
Landauer seconded.
Wood suggested that the motion include direction to the Staff
to draft a resolution to that effect.
The motion parsed with Doll, Landauer and Cuny voting aye and
Donaldson and Blair voting nay.
Lot 19 Eaglebend Filing 1 Variance Reguest to Allow
Carports in 20 Foot Setback - Resolution - Continued from
2/2/88
Cuny stated that if the Commissioners had read the resolution
over and agree that it is whey was agreed upon at the
February 2, 1988 meeting she would ask for a motion to accept
the resolution.
Donaldson moved to accept Resolution 8B-1, as submitted.
Doll seconded.
The motion passed unanimously.
Lot 19 Eaglebend Filing No 1 Design Review._
Wright stated that John and Suzanne Railton have applied for
Design Review of a residence they plan to construct on the
east half of Lot 19, Eaglehend Filing No. 1. The property is
zoned duplex and there is currently one residence on the lot.
The proposed structure is planned to match the existing
residence as far as color and materials go. Parking is being
provided under carports between the buildings and the street.
A site plan, elevations, and floor plans have been submitted
for review. Wright provided these plans for Commission
review and introduced John Railton to answer any question=_
the Commission might have.
Railton stated that the existing house is at the west side of
the lot. The proposed house is a slightly smaller house on
the east side. The existing house is cedar siding painted
grey with a darker grey trim and dark grey metal roof and the
same color and material will be used for the proposed
residence.
Doll asked if they will be joined in any way?
Railton stated that they will be joiner by a deck-
Cuny asked if the carport roof would also be metal and
Railton stated that it would be.
Donaldson moved that the Commission approve the Railton
Duplex Design as submitted.
Doll seconded.
The motion passed unanimously.
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Lot 1 Block 1. Benchmark at Beaver Creed Derby Station
Pester Marketing Design Review.
Wright stated that the Applicant has requested to have this
item continued to the next regular meeting due to the problem
of the weather.
Doll moved to continue this item to the next regular meeting.
Landauer seconded.
The motion passed unanimously.
Lot 23, Block: 1, Benchmark: at Beaver Creek Eagle -Summit
Moving and Storage Sign Design Review.
Wright stated that Eagle -Summit Moving and Storage has
requested approval for two business signs that they would
like to place on the Wolff Warehouse. This business is
located in the space formerly occupied by Beaver Track and
Trail. One of t'ne signs is planned for the east face of the
building and identifies the business. The other sign is
planned for the south side of the building and indicates the
business" association with North American Van Lines. The
total square footage proposed is approximately 42 square
feet. Pictures of the actual signs and sketches of the
building showing sign location have been submitted for
review.
Cuny asked if they were lighted signs.
Wright stated that it appears that the one over the door that
says Eagle -Summit Moving is just a basic sign. The North
American sign appears to be internally lit.
Donaldson moved to approve the sign design review request as
submitted based on the photographs the staff provided.
Landauer seconded.
The motion passed unanimously.
Lot 23/75 Block: -
Benchmark at Beaver Creek Wal-Mart
Project Sign
Wright stater' that Palmer Development, developer of the
Community Shopping Center, has requested a modification to
the sign program for the project as it relates to project
identification signage. They originally requested a
single -sided project ID sign of 32 square feet. Plans
submitted for a sign permit show a double -sided, interior lit
sign approximately 3.6 square feet per side. When the sig
manufacturer was contacted they requested review and approval
OF the new sign on the word from the developer that it was
all approved. Wright stated it is basically the same sign as
approved before, a couple square feet larger and of course
with the second side.
Color and placement of the sign was discussed.
Blair stated that if the only difference is that it is two
sided and they cannot both be seen from any one point, he has
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Lot 23/75. Block 2 Benchmark at Beaver Creek, Wal-Mart
Project Sion - Continued
no objections to it.
Doll moved that in the question of the sign program
modification for the Community Shopping Center, that the
Commission approve the request as written.
Blair seconded..
The motion passed unanimously.
Lot 1 Lodge at Avon Subdivision, Lots 1 and 2. Sunroad
Subdivision, Temporary Parking for Special Events Vail
Associates
Wood stated that Vail Associates has applied for approval to
extend previous approval for temporary parking on Lot 1,
Lodge at Avon Subdivision and in addition they are requesting
a similar approval for Lots 1 and 2 of the Sunroad
Subdivision. This is the area between the bank and 4ynfield
Inn. Previous approvals were limited to ski season uses, but
this approval is for year round use so that it would be
available for special events during the summer months.
In the past criteria for such approvals have been adopted.
Wood proceeded to review the criteria and the conditions to
approval as recomisended by Staff.
Jim Funk stated that they had received a lease agreement from
the Lodge at Avon and were in the process of negotiating an
agreement for Sunroad.
The main intent for this particular lot is for the upcoming
American Ski Classic and the 89 championships.
Mr. Funk described the entrances and exits on the West Beaver
Creek Blvd. side. There would be none from Avon Road. One
entrance and staging area would be for buses and one for
autos and the third would be the exit.
Donaldson asked about the off-site impact of parking up to
300 cars in this area. He asked if the buses would be
carrying most of the people away.
Funks stated that the lot would be used only for special
events, not on a daily basis. It will be barricaded off when
there is no special event.
Donaldson asked if Mr. Funk had presented this matter to the
Department of Public Safety?
Mr. Funk stated he had talked to Joe Olson and he didn't
voice any objections.
Direction signs would be used.
Blair asked Wood if the lot at Lodge at Avon has worked well?
Wood stated that it had worked well.
Blair asked if Funk had any problems with any of the four
conditions that Staff recommended.
Funk stated that there were no problems.
Cuny asked if they were asking for any particular length of
time.
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Lot 1. Lodge at Avon Subdivision, Lot 1 and 2 Sunroad
Subdivision, Temporary Parking for Special Events, Vaal
Associates,_lnc. - Continued
Funk stated that it would be until development occurs or the
owner sells the property.
Landauer asked if they planned renting the lot to the Town
for their special events?
Funk stated that there would be no problem with the Town
using the lot for their special events, but they should be
coordinated with Vail Associates events so that there are no
conflicts.
Blair moved that the application be approved with the
conditions as written by the Staff, specifically number one
that the length of the approval for both the current lot on
the Lodge at Avon and the Sunroad be for a period of three
years or the length of time approved by the property owner,
whichever is shorter and that the conditions two, three and
four be included and that a fifth condition that an agreement
with the Town of Avon be made for its use for special events
of the lots.
Doll seconded.
The motion passed unanimously.
Reading and Approval of P & Z Minutes of 2/2/88 Regular
Meeting
Donaldson moved to approve the P & Z Minutes of the February
2nd meeting as submitted.
Doll seconded.
Cuny asked that one correction be made to the minutes. On
page 16, she requested that the statement "Cuny stated that
she was disappointed that the Staff report had questions
rather than comments for the Commission to go by" be changad
to reflect "the Staff report for Ruby's/Del,uca's".
Wright stated that on page 2, under Avon Commercial Building
that the statement that Christy Sports wanted to expand 12
feet should state around 868 square feet or so. Since the
actual statement on the tape is 12 feet it was decided to
leave the minutes as submitted.
Donaldson amended his motion to include the correction of the
addition of Ruby's/DeLuca"s.
The motion passed unanimously.
Other Business
It was decided that the Commission would study the portion of
the Proposed Sign Code Revisions concerning temporary signs,
and discuss them at the next meeting.
Blair suggested that some consideration be given to the
differences between a solid satellite dish vs. a mesh dish.
Wood stated that the Commission should finish with the sign
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other Business,- Continued
code revisions and then go on to other changes that the
Commission might want to make.
Cuny suggested that the Commission members go through their
copies of the sign code to determine if there were other
areas that might need to be changed and be prepared to make
these changes known at the next meeting.
Doll moved to adjourn
Donaldson seconded.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:15 PM.
/Respectfully submitted,
Charlette Pascuzzi
Recording Secretary
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