PZC Minutes 041988RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
MINUTES OF PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING
APRIL 19, 1988
The regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning
Commission was held on April 19, 1988, at 7:30 PM in the
Town Council Chambers of the Town of Avon Municipal
Complex, 400 Benchmark Road, Avon, Colorado. The
ineet.irg was called to order by Chairwoman Pat Cuny.
Members Present: Pat Cuny, Buz Reynolds, Frank Doll
Charlie Gersbach, Mike Blair,
Mark: Donaldson, Tom Landauer
Staff Present: Norm Wood, Director of Engineering and
Community Development: Ray Wright,
Engineering Technician; Jim Lamont,
Planning Consultant; Charlette
Pascuzzi, Recording Secretary
Lot 36. Block_1 Benchmark at Beaver Creek: Resolution
88-4, A Resolution Granting A Variance To Allow Parking
Within 10 Feet Of The Metcalf Road Right-of-way
Wright stated that at the April 5, 1988 meeting the
Commission directed the Staff to prepare a resolution
approving a request for a variance to encroach into the
front yard setback for Lot 36, Block 1, Benrhmark: at
Beaver Creek. The resolution is presented for adoption,
citing the criteria and findings as directed by the
Commission at last meeting.
Donaldson and Reynolds stepped down as voting members
due to a conflict of interest as indicated at last
meeting.
Gersbach moved to adopt Resolution 88-4, Granting a
Variance to Allow Parking Within 10 Feet of the Metcalf
Road Right-of-way, for Lot 36, Block 1, Benchmark at
Beaver Creek.
Blair seconded.
Motion passed unanimously.
Lot 51, Block 3, Wildridge Ray Duplex Addition Design
Review
Wright stated that Michael Ray has applied for Design
Review of a 338 square foot addition he proposes to
crnstruct on the west half of the Ray duplex, located on
Lot 51, Block: 3, Wildridge. The proposed addition is
one story high, has a roof pitch that matches the
existing structure, and 1 x 6 wood siding on the
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April 19, 1988
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Lot 51 Block 3 Wildridge, Ray Duplex Addition. Design
Review (cont.)
exterior. Wright stated 'that Mr. Ray was present to
answer any questions the Commission might have.
Mr. Ray asked if there were any questions. He stated
that he thought every thing that was to be done was
included on the drawings that have been provided.
Discussion followed on the project. Cuny asked if the
siding would be the same as the existing construction.
Mr. Ray stated that it would be.
Reynolds moved to approve the addition on Lot 51, Block
3, Wildridge Subdivision, to include the Staff comments.
Doll seconded.
Gersbach asked if Mr. Ray owned both sides^
Mr. Ray stated he did not own both sides.
Gersbach asked if the other owner has approved this
addition.
Mr. Ray stated that she has verbally approved it and he
will have written approval this week.
Reynolds amended his motion to include the written
approval.
Doll seconded the amendment.
The motion passed unanimously.
Lot 65 Block 2 Benchmark at Beaver Creek Development_
Sian Design Review
Wright stated that Otis Development Company has applied
for design review of a development sign for 1_ot 65,
Block 2, Benchmark at Beaver Creek Subdivision. The
proposed sign is approximately fifteen square feet. It
is within all the requirements for a development sign.
Cuny asked if there was a representative of the company
present?
Wright stated that he had talked to Pat Barron and that
he had assured him that it would be a quality sign and
the Staff would double check this.
Cuny stated that if the Commission approves this the
Staff recommendation that the sign must be 10 feet from
the property and road right-of-way should be included in
the motion.
Donaldson moved to approve the development sign as
submitted, with the stipulation that it be placed to
feet from the property line or road right-of-way
Gersbach seconded.
The motion passed unanimously.
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April 19, 1988
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Part of Lot 46/47 Block 1 Benchmark at Beaver Creek
Phoenix Discovery GrOu2s 14 Unit Condominium_ Project
Preliminary Desiqn Review
Donaldson asked that the record show that he was
stepping down due to a conflict of interest.
Gersbach also stepped down stating that he had presented
a letter of conflict of interest to the Recording
Secretary.
Wood stated that since this was a continuance of the
last meeting -nd since Frank Doll was not present at
that meeting, it should be cleared up whether he has
made himself familiar with the previous discussion by
listening to the tape.
Doll stated that he had listened to the tape and was
aware of the previous discussions.
Wood stated that the Phoenix Discovery Group, owners of
the easterly portion of Lots 46/47, formerly known as
building one of the Chambertin Project, has applied for
preliminary design review. The design review is based
upon a fractionalized project containing 14 one bedroom
condominium units. This would be a fractionalization of
the four development rights which are currently assigned
to that site. During the previous discussion there was a
great deal of discussion regarding the suitability of
the proposed project and that use of fractionalization.
The building is a three story structure to be located on
the existing foundation, with a stucco exterior, clad
windows, and flat roof design. Parking is provided by a
combination of surface parking and other parking spaces
incorporated into the building. Staff review indicates
that the proposal does conform with the zoning ordinance
through the use of the fractionalization process and is
within the building heights, setbacks, parking
requirements, open space, etc. Wood stated that due to
the discussion that has come up on fractionalization of
development rights he would read the purposes of the
fractionalization ordinance as it was adopted. Wood
then read from Chapter 17.22 -Fractionalization of
Development Rights, Sections A, B, C, and D. Wood then
read from the Design Review Guidelines under Section 6
of the P&Z Rules and Regulations, Design Review
considerations the items to be considered in reviewing a
design of a proposed project. Sections 6.11 through
6.17 were quoted. Section 7.30 of the Planning and
Zoning Procedure was also quoted. Wood stated that all
the above were items that the Commission need to keep in
mind in reviewing this project.
Cuny stated that in the packets were additional
correspondence received since the previous meeting. One
from Jerry Burris, opposing this project and one from
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Part a+ Lot 46/47 Block 1 Benchmark at Beaver Creek,
Phoenix Discovery Group 14 Unit Condominium Project
Preliminary Design Review (cont.)
Mrs Lisa Johnson Hammond a resident of Sherwood Meadows,
stating concern about the blind curve and the traffic
coming out of the proposed project. Also included was a
letter from Mr. Donaldson that was sent to the
Chambertin Homeowners Association.
Cuny asked if the applicant had any additional
information to present.
Thomas Weber, on behalf of one of the partners in
Phoenix: Discovery Group, Stated that after the last
meeting they held a brief meeting with John. Graham and
Linda Pell at which they confirmed that the documents
Nhich Ms. Pell had mentioned were in fact the same as
the recorded documents which the Phoenix: Discovery Group
had referred to. Mr- Weber stated that Mr. Graham had
stated at this meeting that he would oppose any
development on the property which did not conform with
the previous development and would pursue the
developmFsnt, quote "all the way" and that the Chambertin
Homeowners voted unanimously to support that position.
Mr. Weber compared the proposed units with the one
bedroom units at Sherwood Meadows, stating that their
proposed units were larger than the ones at Sherwood
Meadows. Mr. Weber then presented the Commission with
another letter from Silver and Hayes. Weber then
discussed the matter of devaluation of adjacent
properties comparing the various multi -family units that
are built next to single family units in both Fail and
Avon. He then stated that the value recently
established by Mr. Watkins purchase establishes values
at $35.27 per square +not. The values established by
Mr. Fleisher's purchase set these values at $59.67 per
square foot. He stated that the latest appraisal, that
he knows about, set the values at $53.44 per square
foot_ He stated that it is not this development that
will devalue this property. Regarding the Chambertin
efforts to complete their- project, the punch list for
completion has been known since 1984 and it still is not
complete. Weber stated that the Chambertin owners had
the opportunity to purchase this property if they so
desired and could have seen that it was completed the
way they desire. However, they made no effort to do so.
Weber read excerpts from a local newspaper stating that
Watkins also planned similar uses for his units. He
stated that he felt it was ludicrous to assert that they
would be devaluing the Chambertin property by improving
their property. Mr. Weber stated that if they did not
have pre -sales, they would not continue with the
project.
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April 19, 1988
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Part of Lot 46/47. Block 1 Benchmark at Beaver Creek,
Phoenix Discovery Group, 14 Unit Condominium Project_
Preliminary Design Review (cont.)
Mr. Weber stated that Mr. Donaldson would now review
some of the issues from the Commission.
Mr. Donaldson stated that one of the regrets that he had
from the last meeting was that they did not get into Jim
Lamont's planning review report.
Donaldson proceeded to compare their fourteen one
bedroom units with the units of Sherwood Meadows and
with Chambertin, which he stated has 18 bedrooms in each
building. Donaldson stated he could not understand why
Watkins was objecting to their one bedroom units when he
has already stated publicly that he would like to do the
same thing.
Curly asked if there was anyone else that would like to
add information.
Clint Watkins stated that he would like to address the
comments made by Mr. Weber and Mr. Donaldsun concerning
the article in the newspaper. He stated that he had
told the newspaper that the units were designed where
the bottom part could be locked off, but that he has
never indicated that he desired to separate the units.
He stated that if ever he did consider this action he
would get approval from the Homeowners Association
before trying to push it through the Planning and Zoning
Commission.
John Graham reiterated the objections that the
Homeowners Association has regarding this project. Mr.
Graham stated, regarding Mr. Weber's comments about the
units not being completed, that the items to be
completed are a part of the Associations legal
proceedings against the insurance company. He stated
that the Association has undertaken on its own behalf,
without any funding from the insurance company,
additional safety and light requirements, as required by
the Town of Avon. Two of the major concerns and the
reasons they are objecting to this project, deals with
property values and also access to the units. Mr.
Graham stated that their- sole purpose is to protect the
quality and integrity of the property as it was
originally designed and developed. Mr. Graham stated
that at the conclusion of the last meeting they offered
to sit down with the applicant regarding the proposal.
To date that has not happened. He quoted from a letter
received from Mr. Donaldson stating that they plan to
continue through the review process in an expeditious
manner. Mr Graham stated that he felt that this was not
a very willing attitude in trying to reach a reasonable
compromise. He stated that the Homeowners are firmly
resolved to see this thing through to a conclusion. He
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Part of Lot 46/47, block 1 benchmark. at Beaver Creek
Phoenix Discovery Group 14 Unit Condominium Project
Preliminary Design Review (cont.)
stated that it is their request that the project be
denied as it is being proposed to the Commission.
Robert Hegameyer, appearing as the corporate secretary
of Syndicate Glass, the owner of Unit 13, Chambertin.
Mr. Hegameyer asked the Commission to consider a couple
factors regarding the design review guidelines.
Consider, if the Commission is so inclined to approve
the project, whether Mr. Donaldson would be required to
modify the project to allow free ingress and egress
from either direction in the event of a snow problem, or
rock problem or the need to get a fire truck or
ambulance up there. There must be free access for
travel and to terminate it may violate the zoning codes
or ordinances. He stated that the Commission should
consider the compatibility of design to minimize site
impacts to adjacent properties and comF aibility of
proposed improvements with site topography. Would Mr.
Donaldson be willing and is it within the power of the
Commission to mandate that he modify the foundatign in
the same fashion as the Chambertin foundations were
modified. What impact will there be on the hillside if
this project is built on that foundation and what impact
will there be on the Chambertin foundations. He stated
that this is a serious consideration of theirs and they
ask- that it be one of the Commission's also. He stated
that the visual impact was another one of their
concerns. They do not feel it will be aesthetically
pleasing. Mr. Hagerman asked if Mr. Donaldson would
provide them with a financial guarantee that the wort,
would not damage the remedial work that Chambertin has
done. Would he be willing to post a hcnd and is it
within the power of the Commission to require one.
Greg Peterman, an owner of Unit IA, Sherwood Meadows
stated that they have only recently heard of this
project and is authorized to state that David and Lisa
Hammond, Jan and Jim Hackett,Bill and Kim Andree and
Donna Haskins as well as himself are opposed to the
project at the present time.
Cuny asked him to state his reasons why.
Mr. Peterman stated that they believe that the density
of the project is such that it is out of character with
the neighborhood and are concerned with the valuation
and the potential soils impact at the west end of their
project.
Mr. Donaldson responded to the comments from Mr. Graham
regarding the fire lane sign stating that it has nc
bearing on ownership, development rights or use of
property. He stated that the letter sent to the
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Part of Lot 46/47 Block 1, BanchmarL: at beaver Creek,
Phoenix Discovery Group,_ 14 Unit Condominium Project
Preliminary Design Review (cont.)
Homeowners Association came after Mr. Graham informed
him that they would oppose them on anything other than
another 4 unit project. That is why the letter states
that they plan to proceed with the project as submitted.
He stated that he was confused with all the objections,
as he thinks that anyone that has invested money in that
neighborhood would welcome development of that site. He
stated that he was also confused about Mr. Hagermeyer
requesting free access. He said he could not understand
why the gentleman would think that they would give free
access across their property. Also, regarding the
caissons, 25 of the 29 have already been installed by
the same contractor under the supervision of the same
structural engineer-, and they intend to follow through
with the remaining four or five that are required.
These requirements will be taken care or at the time of
application for a building permit. Mr. Donaldson stated
that as far as posting a bond to protect something that
they have been through, he stated that the project would
be undertaken with the pr,per liability, workmans
compensation, etc. He stated that in terms of the
comparison of their property to the other three filings
of Charrbertin, they are approximately one third larger
in land area, in terms of the overall impact. Mr.
Donaldson stated that Avon is largely made up of second
homes and resort homes for weekend skiers. He stated
that he believes that Chambertin only has one or two
full time owner occupants and one or two long term
rental properties. Also, they have the right to rent
out their properties without coming before this board or
without talking to their neighbors. He stated that they
were only asking that the Commission review the project
within the guidelin-s of the ordinances and documents
that Norm Wood statr l at the beginning.
Jim Lamont stated _nat there will be some modification
or elaborations to his comments, since he will be taking
into consideration the comments made at the last meeting
and at this one so far. Regarding Section 6.11; there
is general agreement that the zoning requirements and
other applicable rules and regulations have been
attained. Regarding 6.12; provided that there is
sufficient investigation on the soils condition, the
site is suitable for a wide varity of residential
structures. The type and quality of material of which
the proposed structure is to be constructed is
consistant with standards for multi -unit residential
structures. Regarding 6.13; The design does not appear
to adversely effect the distribution of light and air of
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April 19, 1988
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Part of !sot 46/47 Plock l,lenchmark at Beaver Creek,
Phoenix Discovery Group, ':4 Unit Condominium Project
Prelimin.:ry Design Review (cont.)
adjacent properties. This is one of the key criteria in
evaluating :'Impacts on adjacent properties.
The acces•.e of fire safety equipment to adjacent
properties may be adversely effected by the site design.
Mr. Lamont stated that he felt that this is a key issue.
Site drainage and landscape plans are of insufficient
detail to determine their compatibility with existing or
proposed site plans of adjacent properties. He
considers this as a matter of further design study that
can be resolved. Regarding 6.14; Insufficient
information exists to determine the impact upon soils
movement and landscaping or retaining wall on north side
of exterior parking lot. Make sure that the retaining
wall is of a sufficient stature that it would not allow
for any soils movement. That may reduce the concern for
limiting emergency access for all the properties.
Regarding 6.15; The visual appearance of the proposed
improvement does not inhibit principal views nor block
the solar exposure of adjacent and neighboring
properties. He feels this is a key element when you
look at how the building is sited. Insufficient
information exists to determine if landscaping will have
an acceptable visual appearance from the public ways.
One of the concerns from the aesthetic standpoint for
the entire neighborhood is that many of the existing
developments to the east have taken great pains to
insure that a quality landscape has developed along
Nottingham Road. He suggested that that quality
landscaping be carried entirely along Nottingham Road.
The exterior and enclosed parking areas are not located
in principal views from adjacent and neighboring
properties and public ways. On further study of the
neighborhood, it is possible with this particular site
plan to improve the landscaping of the rear parking area
so that it is more mitigated for public ways. Regarding
6.16; The apprarent mass of the three story flat roof
structure is consistent with two and three story
structures an adjacent properties. Building offsets on
the south elevation are significant enough to be similar
in appearance of structures on adjacent properties. It
carries through a similar theme throughout the
neighborhood. Exterior materials, architectural
detailing and color can be modified to emphasis wood
siding which is the prevalent siding material in the
vicinity. Through minor modifications of the building
mass, the exterior could have a little bit more wood
that would bring it more in compatibility with the
neighbors which are stucco and wood. Again, provisions
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April 19, 1988
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Part of Lot 46/47 Block 1 Benchmark at Deaver Creek:
Phoenix Discov=ry Group 14 Unit condominium Project
Preliminary Design Review (cont.)
should be made for adequate fire safety access to
adjacent properties. Landscaping improvements should be
qualitatively and quantitatively increased and
maintained to the standards consistent with existing
improvements in the vicinity. No information or
standards are available that indicates that either the
proposed use nor the aesthetics of the improvement are
so similar or dissimilar to others in the vicinity that
values, monetary or aesthetic will be impaired. The
burden of proof in determining values and aesthetics
lies with the applicant. The overriding concern from a
public body is a consistency compatibility and desires
of the neighborhood. Those are the two criteria that
are significant considerations that this Commission
should take under advisement. There is no body of
information within the Town of Avon, nor has there been
presented any information by the applicant which gives
indication of the types of units existing in the
neighborhood. The whole neighborhood is sort of
mix -blended together, so that what we have here is the
first instance of a mono -culture type building coming
into the neighborhood. The ordinances of the Town of
Avon, not the goals and the policies and the programs,
particularly the fractionalization ordinance, were
written in the spirit of continuing a mixed-use policy.
It would be his observation that it would be in the best
interest of the neighborhood to continue that mix. How
that mix is achieved has to be the burden of the
applicant. There is clear- indication that, at least on
adjacent properties, there is a desire for continuing
the mixed-use residential development. There is only
one other site besides this in the immediate
neighborhood that remains to be developed, so the degree
of which the neighborhood is developed is fairly well
established. The desires of the neighborhood in
compatibility is a very important issue.
Fractionalization and mixed-use will become more and
more an issue for Avon, so this particular project has
brought forth the first real sense of community and
sense of neighborhood. In terms of value, Mr Lamont
stated that he has yet to see, in this valley, where any
particular development nay down -value any values in the
neighborhood. This is an economic issue and no one in
the room is qualified to make this judgement, however
the Commission is qualified to make the judgement in
terms of the aesthetics and impacts on the neighborhood.
It is his professional recommendation that the
Commission take a long hard look at the unit mix and
1
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April 19, 1988
Page 10 of 15
Part of Lot 46147 Block I Benchmark at beaver Creek:
Phoenix Discovery Group 14 Unit Condominium Project
Preliminary Design Review (cant.)
that you consider as one of the conditions of approval
the reconsideration of the unit mix that is being
proposed.
Mr. Donaldson stated that the fractionalization of
Falcon Point caused quite a controversy, where the
entire neighborhood came to oppose it. It was approved
and the values were not shown to be detrimental to the
neighbors. Mr. Donaldson stated he has a problem with
the review comments and that was that they had made
every effort to meet on a pre -planning basis with the
entire staff and at that time you did not address many
of the issues you brought up tonight. You were asked
about three days ago if you had any modifications to
your staff report as previously written and you said no.
Mr. Donaldson stated that they did not :-save any problem
with providing emergency access. We have maintained
this all along. They have worked out the grading plan
so that the driveway slopes away from the building and
in doing so it becomes about a five foot cut between the
two properties. They want to get their project approved
as submitted so they can go to the market and test their
design in the marketplace. The drainage issue is a
sensitive concern to them. Two weeks ago they hand
delivered a notice to Mr. Graham of the Homeowners
Association stating that they did not want them to
continue to access the property in the fashion that they
have been. No easement exists, no access rights exists
and they asked them to refrain from doing so for
liability reasons. What he was getting to was the
drainage issue. They have a need to install a proper
drainage Swale down the west side of the property. This
was indicated in the letter to Mr. Graham. Since that
letter was distributed, the neighbors have taken it upon
themselves to construct a drainage facility on Mr.
Donaldson's property for their project. Mr. Donaldson
is concerned about the drainage issue. He stated that
they were prepared to work with the neighbors to agree
on proper drainage for bath properties, but do not
intend to be precluded to have good drainage an our own.
As far as the retaining wall requirements, we have
worked out all the regrading and the contours and
reviewed the soils reports and basically the tallest
wall they .,ill construct is six feet high which is about
half the height of the other walls that have been
constructed on the site to support their buildings.
Donaldson stated that preliminary review does not
require landscape review and yet over half of Mr.
Lamont's review included comments regarding the
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Part of Lot 46/47 Block 1 Benchmark at Beaver Creek
Phoenix DisCDVer/ Group 14 Unit Condominium Project
Preliminary Design Review (cont.)
landscaping. They plan to do intensive landscape
treatment, more than exists on the neighboring
properties. Donaldson asked Lamont to elaborate on his
comment that their landscape appears to be less than
adequate for the neighborhood.
Lamont compared their landscape with the landscaping to
the east. Theirs is more arid than manicured as the
easterly landscape is.
Donaldson reminded Lamont of the limitations the soil
engineer placed on the property. The property cannot be
sodded or irrigated. They intend to do the best
possible with the dry land approach. As to the comment
about the wood treatment on this project, Mr. Donaldson
stated that, after 12 years of designing buildings in
this area, he is a little tired of wood, and the upkeep
of wood is more, and Chambertin is an example. He
stated that they would consider some wood treatment if
necessary for this Commission. As far as the burden of
proof being on the applicant, Mr. Donaldson stated he
had a problem with that, but would do the best he could
off the cuff. He stated that they had surveyed the
units available in the Avon market area. He stated that
when you consider projects like 5unridge, where units
are selling for 40 to 45 thousand dollars that once sold
for 90 to 100 thousand dollars and the Chambertin
project itself that once sold for as high as 450
thousand dollars, those values cannot be protected. He
also doesn't believe that those values exist today. He
can't see where they are effecting their values.
Regarding the mixture that Mr. Lamont referred to, they
feel that they are providing a mixture in the fact that
they are a mono -culture building. In closing Mr.
Donaldson stated that thFy would appreciate the
Commission allowing them to market this project because
they believe that they are right on target. They have
considered lesser larger units which would be directed
at locals, but the prices are not where the market is.
The number of two, three and four bedroom units
available in Avon is staggering.
Cuny asked if there was anyone else that would like to
comment on what Mr. f.amont has said.
Mr. Graham commented an the french drain system and the
retaining walls.
Weber stated that they do not intend to use the french
drair, system that is there.
Cuny asked the Commission members for comments.
Blair stated that the foundations , retaining walls and
the drainage is a technical area that is beyo9d this
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Part of Lot 46/47 Block 1 Benchmark at beaver Creek.
Phoenix. Discovr_ry Group 14 Unit Condominium Prosect
Preliminary Design Preview (cont.)
Commission and their technical ability and has to be
addressed when the building permit is taken out.
Doll stated that he had listened to the tapes of the
previous meeting and reviewed the minutes also and now
he has listened to another hour of discussion tonight
and mostly what he has heard is an argument between two
parties, the applicant and his neighbor=_ and he finds it
very difficult at this time to sort out from all this
argument what the Commission needs to know to approve or
disapprove the design review. He stated that he did not
have any particular fault to find with the building, the
way it looks or the way it will sit on the property. He
stated that he was very supprised to see any buildings
built on any of that property. The thing in the design
review that concerns him more than anything else is the
argument about the access through the buildings. He
stated that it is imperative that an access be
available. He is disappointed that the applicant and
the neiohbors Have not settled this matter before
putting all this smoke up in front of this Commission.
He also agrees with Blair regarding the foundations,
walls etc.
Blair stated that maybe the two questions of. density and
design should be separated. He asked the Staff if the
current zoning allowed for the fractionalization. Wood
stated that one of the purposes of the fractionalization
ordinance was to permit development rights to be
fractionalized into a combination of smaller units,
provided that the aggregate gross square footage of all
units fractionalized is governed under a maximum
limitation. Development rights may be fractionalized
only on lots zoned either through conventional zoning or
SPA designation for triplex or larger multi -family use.
Blair asked if the fractionalization has to be approved
by the Town Council. Wood stated that the
fractionalization is approved through the design review
process, then if it becomes a condominium project, in
order to sell those units, it is also approved by the
Town Council through the subdivision process. Blair
stated that he did not believe the design and uses as
proposed are incompatible with the neighborhood. He
feels that if the drainage and the foundation and access
for safety and traffic considerations can be resolved
and if the design is found not to be inconsistent with
the area and not inconsistent with the Town ordinances
and goals, the only incompatibility is with the
preference of the adjacent owners.
Cuny stated that L.amont's comments about the
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Part of Lot 46/47 Block 1 Benchmark at Beaver Creel-
Phoenix Discovery Group 14 Unit Condominium Project
Preliminary Design Review (cont.)
mono-cultirr�- building helped clear up some of her
understanding of Section 6.16 regarding it being similar
or dissimilar.
Landauer stated that he felt that Doll stated some good
points and he goes along one hundred percent. He also
thinks they need to take into consideration the views of
the neighboring property owners and these comments and
letters are extremely negative. He feels that the
density is too much for one project. The emergency
access is very critical and this must be worked out if
this project is to be approved.
Reynolds stated that at first he thought this project
would work, but there is so much strong feeling against
it that he feels that he should look out for the
community.
Cuny stated that some action should be taken on this
matter tonight.
Bill Fleisher stated that he objects to having 14 more
neighbors and he feels that this is too many. He has no
problem if they want to build another 4 unit building.
Blair moved to approve the application with the
conditions that the Staff has suggested, which includes
emergency access through the properties and that the
fractionalized unit density be limited to not cure than
.line units, unless agreed upon by the adjacent property
owners and the fractionalization is approved by the Town
Council when it comes before the Council.
Wood stated in order to conform with the conditions
being attached, they need to have design guidelines
section numbers attached to them, such as design
guideline for emergency access as included in the staff
report can be based on section 6.13 and section 6.14 of
the design guidelines. The second condition that the
Staff had recommended was that the previously agreed
upon roadway easement along Nottingham Road be
incorporated in the final plat, based on section 6.11.
With the condition of the limitation of not more than
nine units, that could possibly be based upon section
6.13 and section 6.16. Blair stated that he would be
glad to include these specific references in his motion.
Cuny asked for a second to the motion. Hearing none the
motion failed.
Blair asked the Staff what the consequences would be if
the Commission failed to take action.
Wood stated that the project would be approved as
submitted, by default.
Reynolds asked the applicant what he things of the
motion.
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April 14, 1,
Page 14 of V
Part of Lot 46/47, Block 1 Benchmark at Beaver Creek,
Phoenix Discovery --Group, 14 Unit Condominium Project_
Preliminary Design Review (cont.)
Mr. Donaldson stated that he didn't think it had
anything to do with the application and that he thought
it would be an illegal motion. They are not asking to
amend their- application.
Landauer moved to deny the application as submitted,
citing Section 6.13; the compatibility of the design to
minimize site impacts to adjacent properties, and
Section 6.16; the objective that no improvement be so
similar or dissimilar to others in the vicinity that
values, monetary or aesthetic will be impaired.
Doll seconded.
The motion passed unanimously.
Wood stated that the decision of the Commission sha;l
become final if no written appeal is made to the Town
Council by any aggrieved person within twenty days
following the decision of the Planning and Zoning
Commission.
Ordinance 88-6 Sign Code Amendments
Donaldson and Gersbach resumed their status as voting
members of the Commission.
Donaldson asked if the temporary sign provision was
satisfactory.
Cully stated she thought it was since number four had
been added.
Discussion followed on the description of a sign.
Wood stated that everything in the ordinance was as
discussed in previous meetings with the exception of
additions to the development sign (no. 5) and the same
addition. to Section t=our of the temporary signs section.
Discussion followed on these additions.
Discussion on temporary signs followed regarding the
time period.
Doll moved to change Section Two to state: thirty days
instead of one hundred twenty days.
Gersbach secondee!.
The motion passed unanimously.
Reading and Approval of P cu Z Minutesof 4/5/436Regular
Meeting
Reynolds moved to approve the minutes of the 4/5/88
regular meeting as submitted.
Landauer seconded.
The motion carried unanimously.
Planning and Zoning Meeting Minutes
April 19, 1988
Page 15 of 15
Other Business
Charlie Gersbach stated that he wanted to say goodbye as
this is his last meeting as a member of the Commission.
He also made the recommendation that every thirty or
forty days the staff change the placement of the name
plates so that members sit next to different members.
It would crea',:e more comradery among the group.
Gersbach moved to adjourn.
Donaldson seconded.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:05 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Charlette Pascuzzi
recording Secretary
Commissio�;Ees,�l Date_
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