PZC Minutes 020387RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
MINUTES OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
FEBRUARY 3, 1987
The regular meeting of the Avon Planning and Zoning Commission was held
on February 3, 1987 at 5:55 PM in the Town Council Chambers of the Town
of Avon Municipal Complex, 400 Benchmark Road, Avon, Colorado. The
meeting was called to order by Chairman Mike Blair.
Members Present: Mike Blair, Mark Donaldson, Tom Landauer,
Buzz Reynolds, Pat Cuny
Members Absent: Jeff Maddox, Charlie Gersbach
Staff Present: Norm Wood, Director of Engineering and Community
Development - Jim Lamont, Planning Consultant
Ray Wright, Engineering Technician - Maggie Lach,
Recording Secretary
Staff Wort: Session
Wood reviewed agenda items of February 3, 1987 with Commission.
Wood also reviewed requested changes to the Planning and Zoning
Commission Procedures, Rules and Regulations.
Regular Agenda Items - 7:30 PM
Lot 25, Blk. 2 BM @ BC - Christie Lodge - Sign Program Design Review
Can't. from 1/20/87 Regular Meeting
Wright stated that this application was continued from the January 20,
1987, meeting. The Commission had requested that someone from the
Christie Lodge attend the meeting to present the program and answer
questions. The Christie Lodge Owners Association has applied for
design review of a new sign program. They would likE to replace the
project identification signs which are mounted on the buildings at the
east and west enr�; of the project, replace the existing freestanding
sign by the main entrance to the project, and replace the current.
signage for businesses in the project. They are requesting th?t the
existing signage for "The Country Store" and "Western Sun Sports" be
allowed to remain. The proposed sign program calls for signs to be
made a+ sandblasted redwood, with teal blue (PMS #321) lettering and
border, on a white background. Letter style is proposed to be
"University Roman Bold Display". The proposed program requires that
all new signage be approved by the Owners Association as well as the
Town's Building Department. Wright stated that applicant has also
submitted color renderings of the proposed signage.
Ben Morgan, Assistant Manager of the Christie Lodge stated that the
signs will enhance the building and the businesses, and they will be
color coordinated and matching.
Discussion followed on proposed signage.
Donaldson motioned to approve the application as submitted, with the
conditions of: 1) that the lettering for individual business signs be a
maximum of 8" in height; 2) that individual businesses be allowed one
exterior sign of no more than 12 square feet; and 3) that placement of
individual business signs will be limited to the fascias directly in
front of the commercial spaces that they relate to.
Landauer seconded.
Passed unanimously.
Planning & Zoning Meeting Minutes
February 3, 1987
Page 2 of 8
Lot 1 Blk 1 B11 @ BC - Pester Gas Station - Design Review - Can't.
from 9/16/86 Regular- Meeting
Wright stated that at the September 16, 1986, meeting, the Commission
continued the design review of the Pester gas station, and directed
applicant to consider building design alterations to address concerns
of the Commission. The Commission hail expressed concerns ebout the
large roof area, and snow falling from the roof onto customers. The
Commission also requested that the propane tank proposed for the site
be buried. Pester has submitted revised plans for the project
addressing the Commission's concerns. The propane tank for the site is
shown as buried, and new building plans show a lower roof peak, smaller
roof area, and a covered sidewalk for the convenience store.
Dave Galloway, representative of Pester presented rendering of the
building and introduced Jack Scurlock, Executive Vice President of
Pester. Galloway stated that site design does not pose too many
problems. The propane tank is shown as; buried. Galloway stated that
Staff has recommended that the landscaping island be extended between
the road and the building, and that the radius be increased 15' on the
east drive. We have no problem with either recommendation. He
explained that the building was redesigned per the Commission's
recommendation at the last meeting.
Discussion followed on plans submitted.
Blair asked if 3 pump islands would 'prohibit flow of traffic.
Galloway explained that pump islands would be multi -product dispensers.
Discussion followed on vehicle stacking.
Jack Scurlock, Vice President of Pester stated that they can pump more
gas from a 3 dispenser pump than what is currently in use.
Lamont commented on building design and stated he felt that the first
design presented a more impressive mass when coming into the
intersection in town.
Discussion followed on design.
Galloway stated that the roof color would be a flat black metal roof,
and the building, material "Dryvit" light gray.
Donaldson stated he did not care for the red panels beneath the
storefront windows and felt they would be more attractive if it were
all glass. He also suggested that the columns in front of the building
be changed from black to match the gray exterior of the building.
Reynolds motioned to approve the design review as submitted with
conditions of: 1) that the landscaping on the north side of the
building be extended eastward to separate the parking from Nottingham
Road; 2) that the radius on the east side of the westerly drive be
increased to approximately 15'; and 3) that the color of the columns in
front of the building be changed from black to gray to match the stucco
massing.
Landauer seconded.
Passed unanimously.
In a separate motion, Landauer motioned that color samples be submitted
for confirmation prior to issuance of a building permit.
Reynolds seconded.
Passed unanimously.
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Planning & Zoning Meeting Minutes
February 3, 1987
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Lot t Blk .1, BM @ BC - Pester Gas Station - Sion Variance and Design
Review Cont from 9/16/86 Regular Meeting
Wright stated that this item was continued from the September 1986,
meeting so that applicant could explore other options for signaagge. The
Commission was also asked to visit the site and farm their own opinions
of the effect the 30' high project I.D. sign would have an the area.
The applicant has resubmitted a sign program for the project and, based
on the proposed sign areas, the sign program will still require a
variance for total signage allowed for the project.
Dave Galloway, representative of Pester stated that they had revised
the zign program from the September 16, 1986, meeting. He explained
that the freestanding I.D. sign would remain the same. He stated they
are proposing 3 price signs for each pump island, and the building
design provides for a building I.D. sign of approximately 12 square
feet. Total square footage proposed for signs is 215 square feet.
Jack Scurlock, Vice President of Pester responded to the 3 price signs
and stated that it is important that customer see the gas price and the
3 signs are to balance the size of the 3 poles.
Discussion followed on size of signs.
Donaldson commented that there is such a drastic difference between the
Sign Code allowance and what is being proposed, and asked if something
could be deleted.
Galloway stated there is some flexibility because of the redundancy of
the 3 price signs. He stated that the flagpole is being replaced by a
large sign so that there is visibility from the highway, and the price
sign on the pumps is to draw local tra++ic.
Blair asked if freestanding sign would have landscaping at base of
sign.
Galloway stated that a sign housing would accomplish the same thing,
and there is evergreen material around the base.
Discussion followed on 3 pump island signs.
Scurlock responded and stated that 2 signs could be deleted and 1 could
remain in the center island.
Galloway did not feel that they were asking for something that was not
a standard in the industry.
Blair asked if there were any reflective surfaces on the signs.
Galloway stated that signs have plexiglass faces with glass paint.
Reynolds motioned to approve the sign design variance with stipulation
that 2 pump island signs be deleted, with i price sign in the center,
and all other signs are approved as per application. The variance is
warranted based upon Section 17.36.050, Findings Required in granting
a variance, and per Sign Design Guidelines.
Landauer seconded.
Donaldson opposed.
Motion carried.
Secretary's, Note: Pat CUny arrived for the meeting at 8:30 PM.
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February 3, 1987
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Lot 21, Blk. 2 BM @ BC Avon Commercial Building - Sion Program
Design Review
Wright stated that the Lindsey Group, owners of the Avon Commercial
Building, has applied for design review of a sign program for- their
building. Christy Sports has recently moved into the building and the
program outlines signage for Christy Sports as well as signs and
directories for future tenants. The submittal includes a letter from
the applicant, drawings of signs proposed for Christy Sports, and
building elevations showing proposed sign locations.
Rick Erickson, Vice President of Lindsey Group and owner of building
felt that information submitted to Commission was self-explanatory.
He explained from rendering submitted that there would be a sign above
the entrance of approximately 29 square feet, 1 sign along the north
side of the building of approximately 19 square feet, and another sign
above the secondary entrance that will say "Ski Rental", of
approximately 29 square feet. Erickson stated there would also be 2
joint directory signs of 6 square feet each. He explained that there
would be another entrance to the west side of the building. He stated
that total square footage proposed for the building would be 116 square
feet.
Discussion followed on signage proposed.
Cuny had concerns of total square footage proposed.
Erickson stated that they are asking for a sign above the major
entrance and to use the existing sign from the Avon Center on the north
side of the building.
Keith Van Velkinburgh, President of Christy Sports stated they have
5,000 square feet of store area, thus justifying the signage.
Discussion followed on size of signs.
Van Velkinburgh stated that being the only merchant there, they need to
have the identification so people know where they're located and to let
vehicle traffic know that the store is there.
Discussion followed on proposed signage and sign program square
footage.
Donaldson motioned to approve the sign program design review based upon
the Sign Design Guidelines, with the condition that the "Ski Rental"
sign be reduced to 12 square feet.
Reynolds seconded.
Passed unanimously.
Lots 26-28. B1{ 1 BM @ BC - Mountain Center - Extension Request for
Mountain Center Development Sign -,Design Review
Wright stated that at the July 12, 1984, Commission meeting, the
Commission granted approval for Vail Building Arts to erect a
development sign for the proposed "Mountain Center" project. As part
of the Town's attempt to bring all development signs in the Town into
conformance with the Sign Code, the applicant was asked to either
remove the sign or request an extension, since the previous approval
expired in July of 1986. Wright explained that applicant, Les Shapiro,
spoke with him and stated he would be out of town for the meeting.
Planning & Zoning Meeting Minutes
Feburary 3, 1987
Page 5 of B
Lots 26-28, Blk. BM @ BC - Extension Request for Mountain Center
Development Sign - Design Review, Con t.
Wright stated that the existing sign is slightly less than the 16
square feet allowed by the Sign Code. The sign is in good condition
and there are no problems with its location. The applicant would like
to replace the words "Wholesale -Retail -Commercial", with the wording
"Condo -Warehouse - Sale or Lease". He also proposed to remove the
realtor's name and phone number from the bottom of the sign and put his
own phone number in its place.
Donaldson motioned to approve the extension request for Mountain Center
as submitted.
Landauer seconded.
Passed unanimously.
Lot 23Blk 1 BM @ BC - Beaver Track & Trail - Business Signs_
Design Review
Wright stated that this application is for design review of business
signs for Beaver Track & Trail, which is located in the Wolff
Warehouse. At the January 21, 1986, meeting, the Commission granted
temporary approval for the "Polaris" sign that is currently on the
building. This approval was to expi,e 6 months from that date. The
Commission had also requested that t'ie building owner submit a sign
program for the building. Since that time, Beaver Track & Trail has
been sold. The new owner, Mr. Bert Dickey, is requesting that the
"Polaris" sign be reapproved, and that he be granted approval for a
"Kawasaki" eign which he put on the building during December, 1986.
Wright explained that Henry Wolff, owner of the building ha,a not come
forward since that meeting or presented any kind of sign program.
Bert Dickey, applicant and owner of Beaver Track & Trail stated that he
has 2 businesses, and the building is in 2 parcels. There is a
business_ on either side of the middle bay that serves as his shop. The
left side is the snowmobile business and the other is Kawasaki
motorcycles. He stated he needed a sign for each business and that
there is currently 37 square feet of signage, and did not anticipate
any more, or any larger signage at this time. Dickey stated that he
had spoken with Mr. Wolff, but Wall had not done anything yet regarding
signs.
Discussion followed.
Donaldson motioned to approve the sign program guidelines for the Wolff
Warehouse and approve the business signs as submitted with conditions
of: 1) that each business be allowed the 12 square feet provided for
business signs in the Sign Code; 21 that in addition to the 12 square
feet mentioned above, each business be allocated a portion of the 64
square feet reserved for project identification signage based on the
percentage of the entire building under lease to the particular
business; 3) all signage for the Wolff Warehouse be reviewed and
approved by the Planning and Zoning Commission; and 4) if, at a later
date the building owner requests project identification signage, it
will only be considered as part of a comprehensive sign program for the
entire project.
Reynolds seconded.
Passed unanimously.
Planning & Zoning Meeting Minutes
February 39 1987
Page 6 of 8
Interpretation of Allowed Uses in SC (Shopping Center) Zone District
Allowance of Gas Pumps with Convenience Store
Wood stated that application is for an interpretation regarding an
allowed use in the SC Zone District. When there is a question
regarding uses, there is a provision in the current zoning code to
allow any person to apply to the commission for a determination as to
whether a specified use is an allowed use or Special Review Use. This
determination is made on an analysis of the intention of the district
and the compatibility of the proposed ues with allowed and Special
Review Uses. The requested interpretation is whether gas pumps would
be allowed in conjunction with a convenience store in the a. Zone
District. Wood then reviewed the intent, allowed uses and Special
Review Uses within the SC Zone District, as well as Section 17.20.090
,and Section 17.08.080 of the Avon Municipal Code. Wood stated that the
RHDC (Residential High Density and Commercial) Zone District is the
only district which specifically lists automobile service stations as
an allowed or Special Review Use. He explained that in reviewing the
application, 3 questions should be addressed: 1) is gasoline or motor
fuel dispensing included as an allowed use such as personal service
outlets in the SC Zone District?; 2) is gasoline or motor fuel
dispensing an accessory use to a convenience store?; and 3) is gasoline
or motor fuel dispensing only allowed in conjunction with an automobile
service station or public garage? He stated that once those questions
are addressed, Staff feels a determination can be made as to whether it
would or would not be an appropriate use, and which category it would
fall into. Wood suggested that the Commission consider the intentions
as outlined in the SC Zone District and the compatibility of the:
propo=sed use with allowed and Special Review Uses in the SC Zone
District. He also suggested that the Commission view the SC Zone
District with nothing there, and look at uses that could occur„ and
whether the requested use is compatible with those concerning the
compatibility issue.
Jim Cunningham, owner of parcel in question, stated that he had been
approached by a non -franchisee convenience store much like the Short
Stop in Eagle -Vail, that would have approximately 2,000 square feet of
building area and a 2 pod gas service system that would handle 8 lines.
He stated he was approaching the Commission to see what their position
would be in regard to this interpretation.
Wood stated that the SC Zone District is everything east of Avon Road
except for the Christie Lodge site, which is RHDC. Wood felt that gas
pumps were not really compatible with Special Review Uses, but whether
it was an allowed or accessory use.
Donaldson did riot feel it was an accessory use because would then
bring in all the Zone Districts. He felt it should be ca'Lled motor
fuel dispensing. He did feel that the SC Zone District was the best
zone for the use.
Cuny felt that if gas dispensing were allowed in the SC District, it be
in conjunction with a full service station rather than food.
Wood stated that once it becomes a full service station, it is within
the definitions provided in the Zoning Code. The only zone district
that addresses service stations is the RHDC Zone District, which is the
area where the bank is or the Christie Lodge site.
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February 3, 1987
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Interpretation of Allowed Uses in SC Zone District - Allowance of Gas
Pumps wtih Convenience Store Con t.
Donaldson felt that convenience stores and pumps were more desireable
than the associated buildings and clutter that accumulates with the
auto garages and repair places. He concluded that to have downtown
pumps and not all the other clutter that goes with it, the SC District
would be appropriate.
Cunningham stated he did not believe that convenience stores of the
future would be built without gas pumps.
Cuny did not feel that gas pumps were an accessory use to a convenience
store.
Wood stated that gas dispensing, in the new ordinance, is addressed as
a Special Review Use in various zone districts such as SC, RHDC and
possibly the IC district. Auto service stations are addressed in
certain zone districts as a Special Review Use in the SC, RHDC and TC,
and auto repair is allowed in the IC district.
Discussion followed.
Donaldson agreed with Cunningham that gas/convenience stores were
something of the future, but he also agreed with Cuny that dispensing
gas is not an accessory use to a convenience store. He did, however,
feel that Tract 0 was a good location.
Commission then reviewed the 3 questions posed in the interpretation.
Donaldson stated that in saying no to all 3 questions, is that you
could allow the fuel dispensing in the RHDC district, but it does not
have to have a service station associated with it.
Wood stated that the intent was, Is gasoline dispensing only allowed
in conjunction with a service station, regardless of how limited the
additional services are within it?".
Cuny motioned that, "The Planning and Zoning Commission of the Town of
Avon, Colorado has considered the intent outlined for the SC Zone
District and the compatibility of the proposed use with allowed and
special review uses in the SC Zone District, and hereby determines that
the dispensing of gasoline or motor fuels in conjunction with a retail
convenience store is not compatible with allowed or Special Review Uses
in the SC Zone District, and motor fuel dispensing is not included as
an allowed use such as personal service outlets, and that gasoline or
motor fuel dispensing is not an accessory use to a convenience store in
the SC Zone District".
Donaldson seconded.
Passed unanimously.
Wood stated that applicant can appeal the decision of the Commission to
the Town Council.
Proposed Zoning Code Revisions - Con't from 1/20/87 Regular Meeting
Wood stated that at this time, revisions still need to be made to the
Code based upon comments from the Town Attorney.
Blair re-openrid the public hearing as continued from the January 20,
1987, meeting.
There being no one in the audience wishing to be heard, Blair closed
the public hearing and stated that the public he<:ring would not be
continued.
Discussion followed.
Blair stated that the Commission would continue -the review of the
revisions once the comments from the Attorney had been incorporated
into the document.
Planning & Zoning Meeting Minutes
February 3, 1987
Page 8 of 8
Review of Reauested Changes to P & Z Rules & Regulations - Can't. from
1/20/87 Regular Meeting
Wood reviewed the Rules and Regulaticns with the commission beginning
with Section 6.23 Landscaping, including Maintenance, Lighting and
Retaining Walls; Section 6.24 Miscellaneous Items, including Temporary
Structures, Fences and Signs, Communications and Satellite Dish
Antennas; Section 6.25 Building Design, including General Design
Characteristics, Building Materials and Roofs; All of Section 7.00,
Planning and Zoning Commission Procedure; All of Section 8.00, Approval
by the Commission; All of Section 9.00, Exceptions from this
Regulation; All of Section 10.00, Appeal to Town council; All of
Section 11.00, Lapse of Design Review Approval; All of Section 12.00,
Severability; All of Section 13.0,0, Safety Clause; All of Section
14.00, Enforcement; All of Section 15.00, Amendment; and All of Section
16.00, Adoption.
Donaldson recommended Council adopt these Proczdures, Rulers and
Regulations with the revisions that have been incorporated.
Landauer seconded.
Passed unanimously.
Reading & Approval of r & Z Minutes of 1/20/87 Regular Meeting
Donaldson motioned to approve the minutes of the January 20, 1987,
regular meeting as submitted.
Landauer seconded.
Passed unanimously.
There being no new or other business to discuss, Blair adjourned the
meeting.
Meeting adjourned at 10:15 PM.
fully
Margaret/M. Lach
Record Secretary
Commission Approvaly'
M. Blair
P. Cuny
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