PZC Minutes 021886G
RECORD OR PROCEEDINGS
MINUTES OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
w FEBRUARY 18, 1986
The regular meeting of the Avon Planning and "Zoning Commission was
held on February 18, 1986 at 5t15 PM in the Town Council Chambers
of the Town of Avon Municipal Complex, 400 Benchmark Road, Avon,
Colorado. The meeting was called to order by Chairman Mike Blair.
Members Present: Charlie Gersbach, Mark Donaldson, Jeff
Maddox, Pat Cuny, Tom Landauer, Cheryl
Jingwell, Mike Blair
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Norm Wood, Director of Engineering and
Community Development - Jim Lamont, Planning
Consultant - Jim Williams, Building
Administrator - Ray Wright, Engineering
Technician - Maggie Lach, Recording Secretary
Work Session
Donaldson reviewed outline of proposed changes 'to Zoning Ccde with
Commission members.
Wood reviewed proposed changes to Procedures, Rules, and
Regulations with Commission members.
Wood reviewed agenda items of February 18, 1986 with Commission
members.
Regular Agenda Items - 7:30 PM
Informal Discussion - Lots 26-28 Blk. 1, BM 0 BC - Proposed
Warehouse/Wholesale
Wood stated that applicant requested this item to be tabled until
the next meeting. After review with Staff, they are making
changes to the building design. Due to weather conditions
forecasted, they asked that this be considered at the next
meeting.
Commission members agreed t,i table the discussion until the next
regular meeting.
Lot 3 Sunroad Subdivision - First Bank of Avon - Design Review
Wright stated that First Bank of Avon applied for design review of
a banking facility an Lot 3, Sunroad Subdivisi�,,,. The proposed
building consists of approximately 11,520 square feet and a
drive -.through lane for 2 Automatic Teller Machines. 49 parking
spaces are provided on-site. Building materials include stucco on
the main parts of the building, proposed to be light gray in
color, and a standing seam metal roof proposed to be a smokey blue
color. 4 signs are proposed consisting of backlit white
plexiglass letters in a painted sheet metal cabinet.. The area of
each sign is approximately 24 square feint, for a total of
approximately 96 square feet. Plans submitted include a site
plan, building elevations, grading and drainage plan, sign
details, snow storage plan and details of the trash enclosure.
Planning & Zoning Meeting Minutes
February 18, 1986
Page 2 of 7
Lot 3 Sunroad Subdivision - First Bank of Avon - Design
Review. Can't.
Steve Brooks, architect for project stated that they have
responded to some of the major items of concern for the project.
The landscaping on the west property has increased by
approximately 3 feet by removing 1 parking space. High berms have
been added along the east property line so the existing
landscaping will not be disturbed. Boulders have been added to
the landscape plan and sidewalk to south has been moved to other
side of the property line to create buffer area between sidewalk
and parking lot and to solve some of the drainage problems.
Landscaping around the building has increased considerably. The 8
foot strip has been maximized so it slopes rather than being flat
to the building. The driveway entrance has been moved further to
west on the southwest corner. Flow of vehicles from ATM's has
been revised. ATM's are at northwest corner and traffic flows to
the north. The last concern was roof material and the intensity
of color. The color has been toned down considerably and a low
gloss matte finish has been selected for metal roof. The color of
the roof is a smokey gray blue in lieu of the more intense blue.
We have researched other materials for the roof. The alternatives
are shingles of wood, fiberglass or asphalt; ceramic tile, slate
tile and concrete tile. The concrete tile would pose the least
problems as far as materials. Brooks stated that their preference
is the metal roof.
Brooks presented samples of alternate roof materials, as well as a
color rendering.
Brooks stated that the concrete tile is manufactured by Westile
and these have been installed in some Beaver Creek projects.
These are used on steep roofs. He explained that their proposed
roof is low sloping and the tile would tend to hold the snow and
ice rather than shed it. There would h-- considerable expense to
the owner in using the tile in that tt.e structure of the building
would have to be made stronger. The ceramic tile used at the Kiva
had 30% hreakage the first year and has, greater chances of
crackin„ and breaking during the freeze -thaw cycle than the
concre_a tile. Asphalt and fiberglass shingles hold the snow and
ice on low sloped roofs. Concrete tile has just about replaced
slate tile roofs. He believed that the metal roof would be the
most appropriate and was supported by a number of people in the
area. Brooks stated that there are no formal loading zones an the
site plan. The spaces at the entry are adequate for loading.
Discussion followed on parking spaces, proposed road to the north,
and sidewalks.
Blair questioned the material to be used for the sidewalks.
Terry Halverson, president of First Bank stated that sidewalk
around building would be heated concrete.
Woc:d felt that material for walkways on the street could be
determined ai a later date along with the Wynfield Inn materials
to maintain consistency.
Brooks stated they would like approval on the bollard lighting
which is high pressure sodium.
Wood commented that site grading had been revised to fit site plan
and appears to cmnform.
Planning & Zoning Meeting Minutes
February 18, 1986
Page 3 of 7
Lot 3. Sunroad Subdivision - First Bank of Avon - Design
Review Cont-
Blair
ont.Blair asked for comments on building design.
Landauer stated he would like to see a concrete tile roof because
of aesthetics.
Jack t.unn of First Bank in Denver stated their concern is the exit
from the ATM's.
Discussion followed on trash enclosure and snow storage.
Maddox, stated that he liked the building and the colors, but felt
that the circle drive had too much asphalt.
Gersbach preferred the building materials as they had been
presented.
Cuny motioned for final approval of the building design along with
the colors and materials as presented.
Gersbach seconded.
Wood asked if this included the sign program as submitted.
Cuny asked why sign did not say First Bank of Avon.
Nunn stated that in entire product line none of the banks have the
individual bank name. The First Bank logo is one that is actively
marketed throughout the Scate.
Brooks presented detailof sign for Commission review.
Discussion followed on overhang of building.
Landauer opposed.
Motion carried.
Blair stated that one item not agreed upon was traffic circulation
around the western side of the site including employee parking and
the turnaround coming from the ATM's.
Donaldson suggested that there be landscaping or greenspace at the
western end of the site. He felt that if a couple of spaces were
eliminated on the east corner, everything could be moved 10 feet
and different options could be explored there.
Nunn stated that he was opposed to giving up any parking spaces an
that side of project. He stated they have more parking than is
required, and that may not be enough.
Discussion followed on landscaping.
Glenn Palmer of KKBNA stated that curb and gutter had been added
along Beaver Creek Boulevard so that berm can start from that
point and parking can be hidden in the back. The berms are at a
3:1 slope and are 3-4 feet above the parking level.
Dingwell stated she preferred the architect's plan for circulation
and had no problem with reduced landscaping.
Donaldson felt there should be more landscaping an west elevation.
Gersbach motioned to approve the site plan as suomitted, that the
landscaping is sufficient, the traffic circulation is satisfactory
at this point, but should be reviewed in 1 year if subdivision
road is developed. Staff Recommendations 1-5 are to be included
in approval.
Dingwell seconded.
Gersbach, Dingwell and Maddox voted aye.
Cuny, Donaldson, Landauer and Blair voted nay.
Blair asked for a new motion.
Planning & Zoning Meeting Minutes
February 189 1986
Page 4 of 7
Lot 3, Sunroad Subdivision - First Bank of Avon - Deysign
Review. Can't.
Lamont felt that concession had to made and pointed out that the
west elevation is very plain. He felt an interim plan should be
submitted by applicant to Staff regarding circle traffic flow. He
felt there was too much debate on function rather than aesthetics,
because west elevation looks like it belongs in an industrial park
rather than downtown.
Donaldson suggested that applicant submit alternate plans for the
areas of concern.
Discussion followed on traffic circulation.
Cuny motioned for preliminary approval of the landscaping and site
plan, with Staff Recommendations of 1, 2, and 4. Approval is
conditional upon alignment of the sidewalk with existing sidewalk
across Beaver Creek Boulevard, and with the condition that
applicant return with other alternatives for the west side of the
building to include more landscaping and different traffic flow.
Maddox seconded.
Cuny amended motion to say "... 1-5 of Staff Recommendations."
Maddox amended second.
Passed unanimously.
Discussion followed on proposed signage for project regarding
square footage allowance.
Wood believed that proposed total signage might be
approximately 12 square feet over allowable.
C,ersbach motioned to approve the signage as submitted subject to
Staff's review Of sign code allowances regarding square footage.
Donaldson seconded.
Passed unanimously.
Lot A Blk 2 BM ® BC - Avon Center - Anthony International. Ltd.
- Sion Design Review - Can't. from 2/4/86 Meeting
Williams stated that Commission continued application of Anthony
International at the February 4, 1986 meeting until representative
was present to make presentation. The proposed sign is 2 feet x 5
feet (10 sq. ft.) with gold lettering cn black plexiglass.
Mounting of the sign is proposed to be an the stucco wall east Of
the store window. At the March 28, 1985 meeting, the Commission
had given the sign temporary approval until April 25, 1985 due to
a hardship on the tenant. A letter approving this sign exception
from the sign program has been provided by the owners which will
now allow the application to be presented to the Commissiun.
Chirstopher Anthony, representative of aFplicant was present for
review.
Sign was presented for Commission review.
Cuny and Dingwell did not feel the sign was consistent with the
rest of the building.
Williams stated this is exception to sign program and the
Commission could review this as any other sign application.
Discussion followed on sign and sign program for Avon C -inter.
Planning & Zoning Meeting Minutes
February 16, 1986
Page 5 of 7
Lot A. Blk. 2. SM L BC - Avon Center - Anthony International.
Ltd. - Sian Design Review -Con't. from 2/4/86 Regular
Meeting. Con t.
Dingwell asked if any other business had frontage to the building.
She felt all the other businesse would want signs on the front of
the building that would not be consistent. She felt a directory
for the building would be more appropriate.
Discussion followed.
Gersbach stated that with adoption of new Sign Code, this sign
complies based on Design Review Criteria.
Gersbach motioned to approve the sign as submitted based on
Section 17.28.070, Design Review Criteria.
Donaldson seconded.
Discussion followed.
Dingwell stated that sign does not comply to the Avon Center sign
program.
Donaldson stated the new Sign Code is designed for these
exceptions.
cuny felt that appearance and materials were different from
anything else on the building.
Donaldson felt it was a judgement decision.
Maddox feJ.t this was unusual situation and that sign approval was
acceptable alternative.
Landauer felt that builcing needed a directory for all the
busines=_es in the building.
Discussion followed.
Gersbach amended motion to include that landlord is on notice that
the Commission will not approve any more exceptions to sign
program until there is a directory sign for the interior
businesses.
Discussion followed.
Donaldson stated that Commission is having too much trouble with
this sign and it appears +�-.an that this Sign Code is worthless.
The flexibility of this new Sign Code has been ignored. He felt
that Sign Code was the tool to be using for approval or
disapproval.
Discussion followed.
Blair asked for a restatement of the motion.
Gersbach motioned to approve the sign as submitted based upon
Section 15.28.070, Design Review Criteria.
Donaldson seconded.
Wood stated that Avon Center sign program is a very strictly
structured sign program. He felt there would probably be more
variances from it than any other sign program in town, and it does
allow for this flexibility and provides guidelines.
Dingwell and Cuny opposed.
Motion carried.
Planning & Zoning Meeting Minutes
February 18, 1986
Page 6 of 7
Lot 33 Blk. 1, BM B BC - Barshop Building - Development Sign
Design Review
Williams stated that application is to allow a 'evelopment sign on
Lot 33 to provide information regarding potential development on
this lot. The proposed sign is dark green painted plywood with
white letters. The sign is 4 x 4 with folding supports which
would mount sign at ground level.
Tom Backhus, representative of owner of lot stated that sign was
made a portable sign because ground is frozen. With portable
legs, if there is a great amount of snowfall, sign will be easier
to move up and down depending upon depth of the snow. Backhus
asked for approval of a temporary sign until such time as the
ground thaws and sign can be placed permanently. He stated that
owner requested the removal of the word "Retail" from the sign.
Maddox motioned to approve the sign as a temporary sign until May
1, 1986 or until the ground thaws. The e;ign will then be placed
permanently and sign location is to be reviewed and approved by
Staff.
Dingwall seconded.
Passed unanimously.
L_o_t 7 Blk 1 W.R. Subdivision_- Stairway Addition - Design
Review
Wood stated that application is for a design review of a proposed
exterior stairway from ground level to the second floor or main
living unit of Suncrest Townhomes. Proposed materials would match
existing building materials. Due to question regarding zoning
matters and possible creation of additional units, the applicant
has requested that this be tabled until the next meeting.
Donaldson stepped down due to a conflict of interest.
bingwell motioned to table application per the .applicant's
request.
Cuny seconded.
Donaldson abstained.
Motion carried.
Ordinance No. 86-4 - Fractionalization of Development Rights
Relating to Existing Buildinos - Public Hearing
Donaldson rejoined Commission discussion.
Wood stated that items had been reviewed thoroughly several
meetings ago. He felt that the recommendations from the
Commission had been incorporated into this Ordinance. The
Ordinance has been approved by Council on first reading and a
public hearing has been scheduled for this meeting. Council
approved the Ordinance subject to the deletion of paragraph B,
section 2. At that time, paragraph B, section 2 had a statement
that 100% of Development Rights would be Fractionalized, and
Council did not feel that was necessary and had been adequately
covered.
Blair opened the public hearing.
There being no one wishing to be heard, the public hearing was
clnsed.
Dicsussion followed.
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Planning & Zoning Meeting Minutes
February 189 1986
• Page 7 of 7
Ordinance No. B6-4 - Fractionalization of Development Rights
Relating to Existing Buildings - Public Hearing Can't.
Donaldson recommended approval of Ordinance 86-4 as amended.
Maddox seconded.
Passed unanimously.
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Reading and Appraval of P & Z Minutes of 2/4/86 Regular Meeting
Cuny motioned to approve the minutes of February 4, 1986 meeting
with the change as noted.
Maddox seconded.
Passed unanimously.
Donaldson pointed out that page 3 of 7, line 9 should read,
"Halverson presented site plan of building...." rather than "floor
plan."
Other Business
Donaldson stated that Commission should help staff slow submittals
so that they meet the deadlines for meetings. An example is the
First Bank.
Discussion followed on submittal deadlines.
Wood suggested that review of applications be based upon the plans
that the Staff review is based upon.
Discussion followed on various items within the County.
There being no further business to discuss, Donaldson motiuned to
adjourn the meeting.
Maddrx seconded.
Passed unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 10:50 PM.
Respectfully 5ubm),.tt901
Margaret ^ Lach
Recordi(( g Secretary +�
Commission Approval
Date
M. Blair _�/�/r• `
P. Cuny _
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C. Dingwel
J. Maddox
M. Donalds
C. Sersbac