PZC Minutes 030486G
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
MINUTES OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
MARCH 4, 1986
The regular meeting of the Avon Planning and Zoning Commission was
held on March 4, 1986 at 6:50 PM in the Town Council Chambers of
the Town of Avon Municipal Complex, 400 Benchmark Road, Avon,
Colorado. The meeting was called to order by Chairman Mike Blair.
Members Present: Mike Blair, Mark Donaldson, Jeff Maddox,
Charlie Gersbach, Pat Cuny, Tom Landauer,
Cheryl Dingwell
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Norm Wood, Director of Engineering and
Community Development - Jim Lamont, Planning
Consultant - Ray Wright, Engineering
Technician - Maggie Lach, Recording Secretary
Work Session
Wood reviewed agenda items of March 4, 1986 with Commission
members.
Regular Agenda Items - 7:35 PM
Informal Discussion - Lots 26-28 Blk 2 BM @ BC - Proposed
Warehouse/Wholesale
Wright stated that informal presentation is for purpose of
receiving guidance from the Commiasion prior to development of
final plans for a proposed warehouse.
Michael Nowak of Nowak -Stevens Architects of Denver,
representative of applicant stated that site is on Nottingham Road
across from Kamen Supply.
Nowak presented photos of site for Commission review, along with
site plans. He stated that site rises on a semi -steep slope from
the street. The property an Forest Service side becomes quite
steep. He stated that they tried to make the slope into an asset
rather than a liability. He explained that design is similar to a
ranch style building with a walk -out basement. There is on -grade
access on the north side with access to it with driveways on
either side, with direct access on the south side. He stated that
building runs in an east -west direction with parking in front of
the building. He explained that greenspace is at 25%.
Discussion followed on formula for warehouse parking.
Nowak stated that a mini -warehouse does not have great intensity
parking. The mini -warehouse facility is an the lower level with a
ramp for entry and it is a 25,000 square foot facility. Total
square footage of the building is 75,000 square feet. Nowak felt
that parking requirements could be met with 75 parking spaces and
Staff recommends 103, and plans show 98 spaces. Nowak stated
greenbelt is an east, west and south edges of site.
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Informal Discussion - Lots 26-28 Blk. 1 BM @ BC - Proposed
Warehouse/Wholesale, Con't.
Landauer asked where snow storage was located.
Nowak stated that snow storage is available and adjacent to trash
area, along edges of project, and in drainage easements on east
and west sides. Snow could also be moved to excess parking
spaces.
Nowak then presented building design plans.
Nowak stated th=_ building design was kept simple, and he tried to
create interest through textures. There is a split fascia, but
the colors are the same. The windows are located to accommodate
the lower level user, or there is an optional mezzanine. The bays
are 2,000 square feet and building is approximately 3 stories high
or 36 feet high. The storage bays are below grade. The main
level faces south, and the upper level has access from the north
side. The slope of the hill on the north side gives on -grade
access at 2 different levels. He explained roof system and stated
that instead of trying to shed the roof off as a sloped roof, it
is nominally flat. Water is collected in roof drains, and roof
drains are taken internally down and out to the front of the
building on the south where it discharges across the parking lot
and into the drainage that is being coordinated with the town.
Landauer stated he liked the design and materials to be used for
the building, but had concerns with site plan. He felt every inch
was used in development.
Nowak stated they had a choice of asking for a variance for open
space or parking. He felt he could justify the 75 car parking
ratio in terms of warehouse, and codes required for the
mini -warehouse. ❑n the other hand, he would rather have the extra
parking.
Landauer felt that 25% greenspace should be met.
Discussion followed on parking spaces and greenspace and possible
solutions.
Wood stated that industrial land uses parking requirements are
1/800 square feet, which is the lowest parking requirement of any
category in the zoning code. He did not feel requirement could be
less than that and still be in conformance with the code. He also
explained that warehouses that are designed for 1/800 in that we
have Special Review Uses which allows automotive or other
vehicular sales and repair shops, retail sales and personal
service outlets, etc., all of which have considerably higher
parking requirements than 1/800. If reduction is done for the
lower level, you have locked yourself into very specific uses that
may or may not fill up the building.
Discussion followed.
Gersbach suggested a smaller building be built.
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Informal Discussion - Lots 26-28 Blk 1 BM @ BC - Proposed
Warehouse/Wholesale, Can't.
Cuny felt there should be more greenspace and that parking be
required at 1/800. She lilted the design of the building and the
basic site plan. She felt that the land use changes more here
than in Denver, and that economics change, and that space might
become more valuable by putting in a different kind of use than
warehousing, thus a problem with parking.
Nowak agreed, but said the smaller the building, the more
expensive the overall project.
Dingwell and Maddox, agreed with Cuny.
Discussion followed on snow storage areas.
Nowak stated that color of building would be a mauve color.
1_andauer felt that building was too big for the lot.
Blair summarized points discussed: 1) concerns of too much site
coverage either by parking lot and/or by building. One or the
other should be diminished; 2) need more open space for
landscaping; and 3) building design and appearance is acceptable
as well as circulation on the site.
Blair th-n thanked Nowak for presentation.
Lot 3. Sunroad Subdivision - First Bank of Avon - Site Plan
Design Review
Wright stated that at the February 18, 1986 meeting the Commission
,ave final approval to the building design, materials and colors
for First Bank. Final approval was also granted for proposed
signage for the project, subject to Staff review of allowable
square footages. Site plan was given preliminary approval subject
to the 5 Staff recommendations included in Staff report. Concern
was expressed about landscaping on west side of project and
traffic circulation. The applicant has submitted a revised site
plan addressing some of the Commission's concerns. Future access
at northeast corner of project is now shown as "Exit Only",
parking lot lighting is pole mounted HPS, with bollard lighting at
the entrances to site and along walkways. A seven foot wide
landscaping strip has been added between the ATM lane and parking
spaces to the west.
Randy Diers, officer of First Bank stated that Jack Nunn of First
Bank of Westland was present as well as Glenn Plamer of KKBNA.
Diers stated that sidewalk along Beaver Creek Boulevard has added
section allowing a tie-in to Avon Center. Where temporary access
is on west corner there is cement and grading to allow for
possible high traffic. Proposed sidewalk material is concrete,
which follows Staff recommendation. The lights are HPS with a
maximum height of 25 feet. We have added seven foot island to
meet with the landscaping request. We plan on putting in aspen,
several juniper bushes, and we will be keeping trees away from the
ATM area for security purposes. On the west property line we have
proposed curb and gutter to allow for consideration of mutual
access to adjacent Lot 3. The landscaping plan has been submitted
this evening. The temporary access from Beaver Creek Boulevard is
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Lot 3 Sunroad Subdivision - First Bank of Avon - Site Plan Design
Review. Con t.
acceptable to First Bank, the material for the sidewalk will be -
concrete, and Glenn Palmer will address the revised drainage and
grading plan.
Palmer stated they will revise the drainage plan and there is more
snow storage than before. The impervious areas are draining to
the filter gallery.
Discussion followed on location of sidewalk in relation to Avon
Center.
Donaldson motioned to grant final approval of the site plan for
First Bank with conditions 1, 3, and 4 of Staff recommendations.
Cuny seconded.
Passed unanimously.
Lot 38 Blk 3 W R - Ricks Duplex - Preliminary Design Review
Wright stated that applicant has submitted application for design
review of a duplex residence on Lot 38, Block 3, Wildridge. The
proposed building is approximately 5,900 square feet. Building
materials are proposed stucco -like finish, sage color. Roof
material is sawn cedar shingles and fascia and trim will be rough
sawn cedar. Plans submitted include a site plan, floor plans,
building elevations, landscaping plan and color rendering.
Roy kicks, applicant and architect of project presented a three
dimensional study model for Commission review.
Packs stated that site is reasonably flat and described model to
Commission. He stated that a Stolit insulation system would be
used for outside walls and is coated with a fiberglass mesh
reinforced wall, and ends up looking like stucco.
Ricks presented samples of proposed wall material.
Ricks explained that he is trying to keep the site fairly natural
looking.
Landauer thought that design of the duplex was great.
Ricks stated that he had no problem with Staff recommendations.
Donaldson motioned for preliminary design review approval with
conditions 1 and 2 of Staff report.
Maddox seconded.
Passed unanimously.
Lot 7 Blk 1 W R - Suncrest Townhomes - Design Review
Modifications to Approved Design
Donaldson stepped down due to a conflict of interest.
Wood stated that in 1984 the Commission approved 2 triplex
buildings on Lot 7, Block 1, Wildridge. The buildings were built
and a Temporary Certificate of Occupancy issued in December of
1985. At some point after the issuance of the Temporary
Certificate of Occupancy, it came to Staff's attention that the
building did not comply with the plans previously approved by the
Commission for the first three units. Some of the differences
involve roof line and overhangs, minor changes in windows and
doors on the ground levels, and differences on the 3rd level.
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Lot 7 Blk 1 W R - Suncrest Townhomes - Design Review
Modifications to Approved Design, Con't.
Another change is the building color, some of the railings around
the balconies are a different type of material and colors as well.
The builder was notified of these discrepancies and we asked him
to come to the Commission and request a revised design approval
for the proposed project. In addition to consideration of the
existing 3 units, a recommendation should be made with regard to
the 3 units that have not been built at this time.
Wood then presented plans approved in 1984 and photographs of the
triplex as it exists now.
Steve Wydeveld, builder presented additional photos for Commission
review. He stated that he had submitted a letter summarizing why
things were done the way they were. He explained they were issued
a Temporary Certificate of Occupancy in December and there were 3
items to be completed which includes a light pole near Wildridge
Road, the landscaping, and the parking lot. They were also
requested to put up a letter of credit in =.+:row for those
improvements. They have all 3 units sold grid closed on at this
time. He stated that they assumed modifications had been taken
care of with the Commission. At this time they are proposing two
modifications to the building: 1) overhang extension in the front
of the building; and 2) possibly restaining the building.
Wydeveld stated that whatever changes are approved, they would
like to continue into the next 3 units because there are 2 sales
on contract.
Discussion followed on plans submitted in 1982.
Cuny felt it unfortunate that plans approved in 1984 were not
followed. She felt it was a better looking design than what was
built.
Wydeveld stated they were under foreclosurE on these lots. They
were finally able to close a sale and retain the lot. Larry
Kumpost presented the plans For approval and everything was
basically done quickly as possible. They were under the
assumption that Kumpost made those modifications when approval was
granted. He stated the changes to design were requested because
of economics.
Discussion followed on plan modifications and circumstances
leading to it.
Gersbach commented, for discussion, that building be approved as
it sits, and then pass on to Town Council our recommendation that
they consider the implication of this type of action and consider
what would be appropriate action in the way of a fine for
violating the Zoning Code.
Landauer felt overhangs should be extended to fit in with
surrounding buildings. The color is acceptable and should be used
in the next phase along with the overhangs.
Blair asked Donaldson if overhangs could be added to building.
Donaldson stated from audience that they could, but there would be
one season of different colored shingles.
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Lot 7 Blk. 1 W.R. - Suncrest Townhomes - Design Review
Modifications to Approved Design. Con t.
Maddox felt overhangs should be added.
Discussion followed on action to be taken.
Landauer motioned that applicant be cited in the court because of
violation of the zoning code by not building the building as it
was originally designed and then the Council take whatever action
they feel is necessary; recommend that overhangs be extended and
that there be an architect's rendering showing what is going to be
done and submit the rendering to the Commission for approval.
Dingwell seconded.
Disicussion followed.
Lardauer amended motion to include that colors are acceptable
along with design of railings.
Dingwell amended second.
Donaldson abstained.
Motion carried.
Wydeveld clarified for the record that the applicant is Alpine
Development Concepts and that he is an officer of the company.
Discussion followed on motion.
Dingwell motioned to amend previous motion to include that the
second phase is not to be built until new plans are brought in and
approved.
Maddox seconded.
Donaldson abstained.
Motion ca-ried.
Lot 7 Blk. 1 W R - Suncrest Townhomes - Stairway Addition
Design Review - Con't from 2/18/86 Regular Meeting
Donaldson stepped down due to a conflict of interest.
Wood stated the owner of unit B, Dr. George H. Schmidt, D.D.S. had
applied for design review approval for an outside stairway. The
proposed stairway would provide direct access from the outside
parking area to the main living area of the unit. The issues
involved with this application include both design review and
zoning.
Wood reviewed design criteria, A-E..
Wood explained that the zoning issues are much more complex. The
installation of an outside stairway appears to create the
potential for an additional unit or lock -off unit. The creation
of an additional dwelling unit or lock -off unit would require
additional Development Rights and parking spaces, neither of which
has been provided for in the application. Dr. Schmidt has
submitted a letter which states he will remove the stove and
microwave from the lower level and he will also remove the door
between the first and second levels in the interior stairway.
Technically this meets the requirement for eliminating the
additional dwelling unit or lock -off unit. Wood stated there is
no guarantee that future owners would not reinstall the stove,
microwave and door. Staff recommends that the design approval be
denied based upon potential zoning conflicts and the design of the
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Lot 7 Blk. 1 W.R. - Suncrest Townhomes - Stairway Addition
Design Review Cont from 2/18/86 Regular Meeting. on't.
proposed improvements is incompatible with the overall building
design resulting in an unacceptable level of dissimilarity between
adjoining units.
Wood then presented drawings for Commission review and discussion.
Mark Donaldson, representative of Dr. Schmidt did not feel design
was incompatible. He asked that the zoning and design review be
separated. He explained that he tried to keep the design of the
stairway clean and simple to create a visual focus.
Cuny felt that this stairway was strictly a zoning issue.
Donaldson stated the Schmidt had submitted a letter addressing the
application.
Cuny motioned to deny the request for an exterior stairway
addition based on design guidelines A, D, and E, and because there
is a potential zoning conflict.
Dingwell seconded.
Donaldson abstained.
Motion carried.
Reading and Approval of P & Z Minutes of 2/18/86 Regular Meetin
Donaldson rejoined Commission discussion.
Maddox motioned to approve the minutes of February 18, 1986 as
submitted.
Donaldson seconded.
Passed unanimously.
Other Business
Wood stated that the terms of Commission members Dingwell,
Gersbach and Blair would be expiring as of May I. Wood suggested
that they submit a letter of application if they were interested
in continuing on the Commission.
Blair asked Commission to be on time to discuss the proposed
changes to the Commission Procedures, Rules, and Regulations.
Cuny had concerns of a real estate sign in front of the Benchmark
Plaza Building and of a "For Sale by Owner" sign on adjacent lot
to her property.
There being no further business to discuss, Donaldson motioned to
adjourn the meeting.
Maddox. seconded.
Passed unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 10:35 PM.
tfully S Ittted,
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1 g Secretary
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rnmmission APP'oVal
M. Blair
P. Cuny
T. Landa
C. Ding%
J. Maddc
M. Donal
C. Gerst
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