PZC Minutes 071185.-�
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
MINUTES OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
JULY 11, 1985
The regular meeting of the Avon Planning and Loning
Commission was held on July 11, 1985 at 7:30 PM in the Town
Council Chambers of the Town of Avon Municipal Complex, 400
Benchmark Road, Avon, Colorado. The meetino was called to
order by Chairman Mike Blair.
Members Present: Mark Donaldson, Mike Blair, Charlie
Gersbach, Cheryl Dingwell, Jef,= Maddox,
Tom Landauer
Members Absent: Pat Cuny
Staff Present: Norm Wood, Director of Engineering and
Community Development - Ray Wright,
Engineering Technician - Jim Williams,
Building Inspector -- Maggie Lach, Recording
Secretary
Commission members did riot hold a wort: session for this
meet i rig.
Blair- introduced and welcomed Jeff Maddox, new Planning and
Zoning Commission member.
Lots 26_8,- Block 11 bM W E+C = Zone Change _ Vail Building
Arts- Con_t. from 6/13/85 Reoular Meeting _ Public Hearing
Wood gave overview of application for Lots 26-28, proposed
zone change from IC to SPA for a bed and breakfast motel. He
stated that applicant had requested a continuance to the next
regular meeting of July 25, 1985 so he would have input from
discussions held by Town Council and the Commission on
Development District VI Goals.
Dingwell motioned to accept applicant's request for a
continuance to the next regularly scheduled meeting of July
25, 1985.
Gersbach seconded.
Passed unanimously.
Lot 371 Bloct 1� BM Cq BC = Doyle Warehouse - Business Sion
Design Review
Williams stated that applicant is proposing a business sign
for the Doyle Warehouse to be a total of 4.16 SF. Materials
include redwood panel with raised letters, wood routed with
textured background with bleaching stain and a dark. blue
perimeter. Wording on the sign will read "Self Storage" with
the phone number (949-5743) underneath. The sign will be
mounted on the middle siding area of the west end of
building. The sign does comply with Section 17.28.020,
Definitions (H) of the Sign Code.
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Lot 7=7� Block 1� BM G BC = Doyle Warehouse - Business Sign
Design Ftev_iews Cont_
Nancy Anderson, representative of Doyle and Associates stated
they would like a sign so people will know who to call to
lease space.
Dingwell motioned to approve the business sign for the Doyle
Warehouse, as submitted.
Landauer se-onded.
Passed unar.mously.
Zoning Amendment - Ordinance 85-15 - Amendment to Chapter -
17_22 of 11unicigal Code of the Town of Avon to Limit_
Fireplaces in Connection with Fractionalization Public
Hearing
Wood stated that public notices were posted as required and
there have been no written comments received. He explained
that concern had been expressed regarding the effect of
fractionalization on air quality in the town area with
fractic alization allowing up to 4 times as many units with
potentially as many fireplaces. Ordinance 85-15 is an
attempt to address.. this. This Ordinance was adopted by
Council on first reading at the June 25, 1985 meeting and was
then referred to the Commission for public hearing and
recommendation prior to final Council action.
Wood reviewed Staff comments, 1-3 with Commission along with
Section 17.22.030 of Ordinance 85-15, Limitation on
Fireplaces.
Blair opened public hearing.
There being no one wishing to be heard, the public hearing
was closed.
Blair clarified that proposal states that there would be one
fireplace per residential unit, so if there were 4
Fractionalized units from 1 unit, there could only be one
fireplace in any of those 4.
Donaldson stated he was happy to see this Ordinance, but felt
it could use a little more work. He stated that a resident
had informed him that the State is getting ready to adopt a
statute regarding combustible units which would affect what
is allowed on the market. He felt it would be beneficial to
obtain a copy so that redundancies could be avoided. He
further stated that 1 fireplace per Development Right is too
little, and would rather- see 2. He would also litre to see
written into Ordinance what type of fireplace is allowed. He
felt fractionalization might be penalized if someone else
could put 7 fireplaces in a single family home.
Commission members agreed with Donaldson.
Blair reiterated points made by Commission: 1) Council may
wait tc obtain additional information on State statutes; 2)
look into atmospheric conditions of this valley; 3) consider
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Zgning Amendment - Ordinance 85-15 - Amendment to Chanter
17_22 ofthe Municigal Code of the Town of Avon to Limit
Fireplaces in Connection with Fractionalization - Public
Hearings Cont_
other types of heating apparatus and fuel to be included; and
4> consider number of fireplaces in fractionalized project
and any other type of unit.
Gersbach motioned that Commission recommend to Council
consideration of Commission comments and increase number of
fireplaces to 2 per Development Right.
Donaldson seconded.
Passed unanimously.
Blair suggested that other items be consii�r-ed because
Commission was ahead of agenda schedule..
Reading and Aaprov_al of P & Z Minutes of 6/13/85 Regular
Meeting
Donaldson motioned to approve the minutes of June 13, 1985
regular meeting as submitted.
Landauer seconded.
Passed unanimously.
Other_ business
Wood mentioned he would like to go over the Commission rules
and regulations and proposed changes in upcoming meetings.
Blair stated that consideration should be given to ntaw
officers of the Commission at the next regular meeting. That
would include chairman, vice chairman, and secretary
position.
Blair also stated that there is a vacancy on the Avon Metro
District board and anyone interested should contact the Board
of Directors.
Concerns were mentioned of the Anthony International Ltd.
sign at Avon Center which had only been given a temporary 30
day approval, which expired April 25, 1985.
Williams stated that he has had ongoi.ng conversations with
Vino Anthony and that more assertive measures would have to
be taken to have the sign removed.
Dingwell asked if curb and gutter could be made a requirement
of new projects.
Wood suggested that it be incorporated into Design Review
guidelines.
Williams gave updates on Avon Center I.D. sign. He stated
that they planned to have the sign completed before the
vintage car race being held July 19--215t. He also stated
that he has met with Junior Village a number of times on-site
and they have a far better plan than what was submitted at
the June 27, 1985 regular meeting.
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Lot 21 Blocl_ 1s BM @ BC tResubdiv_ision of Lots 29-32. Block
Z. BM @ 991 Wynfield Inn - Design Review _ Con_t_ from
6/27/85 Regular Meeting
QW Wood reviewed proposed project in relation to number of
units, amenities, construction, materials, and proposed
signage. Wood stated that applicant has made effort to
address concerns expressed at previous Commission meetings.
Carl Pickett of Merrick and Company, architect for the
project pointed out changes made to the site plan since the
submittal, and that some dealt with the plat and some with
owner decisions.
Pickett presented plans and reviewed those with Commission.
He stated that pool had been moved from center care location
to a better sun location. Proposal includes a 6 foot high
stucco screen wall, which is same stucco as building,
directly in front of the pool, and have landscape buffer
between wall and public sidewalk. 10 foot sidewalks have
been incorporated along entire new street and on Beaver Creek
Boulevard, and to future Savoy Square and Lot 1.
Pickett presented revised plans as of July 11, 1985 and
reviewed and explained those to Commission regarding roof
design iii the elevation plans, and pool and jacuzzi area.
Discussion followed on sidewalks, grading and drainage, and
materials to be used.
Landauer felt that project needed underground parking with
more greenspace above.
Gersbach did not feel jacuzzi and pool were in convenient
location for guests.
Donaldson questioned the safety of the pool enclosure.
Discussion followed on the large amount of surface parking.
Donaldson felt fascias were too shallow and the 1x.8 window
trim would warp and give it dimensional instability.
Landauer questioned the treatment of the exposed air
conditioning vents.
Pickett stated that they had not yet chosen a color fcr that,
but they could be painted to match the exterior.
Blair felt that the east elevation facing Avon Road/I-70 was
was massive and plain.
Discussion followed.
Pickett stated that they had put 2 offices in the octagon
shaped main administration facility: 1 for management and 1
for group sales. The size of the building has increased to
24 feet on sides and 58 feet across.
Discussion followed on landscape plan and Commission felt
that some materials, regarding size, were misleading and felt
more variety was needed along with placement.
Hary Champlin, vice president of development for Aircoa
stated that this was a far superior product to the Holiday
Inn in Vail with regard to landscaping, elevators, upgraded
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Lot 21 Black is RM @ PC (Resubdivision of Lots 29-32. Block
2M BM C BC) Wvnfield Inn - Design Review - Con_t_ from
6/13!85 Regular Meetings Cont_
rooms, and air conditioning. Champlin re-emphasized that
there are certain trade-offs needed in order to make this
project work: and in order to do that it must be economically
viable.
Commission commented on curb and gutter.
Wood reviewed plans with Commission and explained where the
location would be and stated curb and gutter had been well
addressed.
Blair then gave overview of Staff and Commission comments.
Donaldson suggested that application be continued or tabled
in view of the numerous problems the Commission had
discussed.
Wood then reviewed Lamont's Master Plan comments with regard
to Wynfield Inn.
Champlin stated that project had been put on a fast track.
He stated he would accept decision to delay project in
interest of bringing a consistent project into town. He
stated that they could not expand the size of the site,
decrease density, increase height of building without
incurring unjustified costs, and could not go to underground
parking, which again is unjustified economically. He stated
that if Commission continues application, that they need
concise direction so they can respond to it and that the
Commission recognizes the parameters that they have to work
with. He stated that if they could not satisfy the
Commission because they could not exceed those parameters,
they would rather have the project denied.
Blair itemized some concerns of Commission stating: 1)
consider appearance of building; add features to east
elevation; 2) cover metal air conditioning grills; 3)
sidewalks 10 feet in width; 4) more landscaping needed for
parking lot along with varied placement: 5) design for bus
shelter and freestanding sign; 6) contingent on final plat by
Town Council; and 7) contingent on adequate Development
Rights on site.
Donaldson felt that facade work was being done on project
rather than massing.
Champlin stated that if building is not aesthetically
acceptable, they needed to provide an alternative. He felt
it was very difficult to work with a "box,".
Donaldson disagreed and felt there was an infinite variety of
treatment that is attractive.
Pickett then commented on Commission suggestions.
Further discussion and suggestions were made between
applicant and Commission.
Donaldson motioned to continue the design review of Wynfield
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Lot i?., B1ocH 1, PM 9 BC (Resubdivision of Lots 29-_32, Block
2s BM @ BC) Wvnfield Inn - Design Reyy-iew - Can't. from
6/1'-/85 Regular Meetings Cont_
Inn to the next regular meeting and included the 5 comments
of the Staff report and comments made during discussion.
Landauer seconded.
Passed unanimously.
There being no further business to discuss. Gersbach motioned
to adjourn the meeting.
Landauer seconded.
Passed unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 10:45 PM.
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ctful Submitted,
ret M. Lac
ding Secretary
Commission Approval r/ -_- Date _ �0�.5-1,95'_
M. Blair
P. Cuny
T. Landa
C. Dingwell _
J. Maddox
M. Donaldson;
C. Gersbach _