PZC Minutes 110585J
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
MINUTES OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
NOVEMBER 5, 1985
The regular meeting of the Avon Plann.ng and Zoning Commission was
held an November 5, 1985 a+ 7:00 PM in the Town Council Chambers
of the Town of Avon Municipal Complex, 400 Benchmark Road, Avon,
Colorado. The meeting was called to order by Chairman Mike Blair.
Members Present: Mike Blair, Pat Cuny, Jeff Maddox, Tom Landauer
Charles Gersbach, Mark Donaldson, Cheryl Dingwell
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Norm Wood, Director of Engineering and Community
Development - Jim Lamont, Planning Consultant
Maggie Lach, Recording Secretary
Work Session
Wood reviewed agenda items of November 5, 1385 with Commission
members.
Wood reviewed proposed revisions to the Planning and Zoning
Procedures, Rules and Regulations with Commission members.
Regular Agenda I•Lems - 7:30 PM
Blair commented on "Citizen Input" which was added to agenda. He
felt that rather than putting informal discussions under that
title, that they should in fact be listed on the agenda as a
separate item.
Wood suggested that informal discussion be listed as "Citizen
Input".
Discussion followed.
Blair reminded Commission of conflict of interest disclosures to
be prepared for the Town.
Blair asked Commission members to consider their second meeting in
December: should it be cancelled or the date changed if some
members would he out of town for that meeting.
Lot 45, Blk. 2, BM 0 BC - S.R.U. - Time Share - Falcon Pointe
Lodge - Con't. froia 10/15/8; Regular Meeting - Public Hearing
Gersbach stepped down due to a conflict of intereut.
Blair stated that letter from applicant had been received dated
November 1, 1985 requesting a withdrawal of their application for
a Special ReviE�i Use for time share.
Wood stater that this application was filed in anticipation of the
zone mange from RHLD to RHDC being approved, any that applicant
was denied by Town Council in accordance with the Commission's
recommendation. This Special Review Use request has no meaning at
this time.
Dennis Cole, representative of ALV Venture verified that he did
send a letter to the Commission requesting a withdrawal of this
application.
Planning & Zoning Meeting Minutes
November 5, 1985
Page 2 of 6
Lot 45, Blk. 2, BM @ BC - S.R.U. -- Time Share - Falcon Pointe.
Lodge - Con't. from 10/15/85 Reaular Meetinq - Public Hearing,.
Con t .
Blair opened the public hearing.
There being no one wishing to be heard, the public hearing was
closed.
Donaldson motioned to accept the applicants request for withdrawal
of this item.
Maddox seconded.
Gersbach abstained.
Motion carried.
Lot 45, Blk. 2. BM @ BC - Zone Change Request - Falcon Pointe
Lodge - RHLD to SPA (Time Share) - Public Hearing
Gersbach stepped down due to a conflict of interest.
Wood stated that ALV Venture and Resort America Development
Corporation have requested a zone change from RHLD to SPA. The
purpose of the requested zone change is to allow the resubdivision
and subsequent time share of the existing building (Falcon Pointe
Lodge).
Wood gave brief history of previous application requesting a zone
change from RHLD to RHDC and the basis for denial of the request,
A -D of Staff report. He explained that SPA provides a method of
addressing items A -C of staff report, except D, "Consideration was
given to the strong public opposition from neighboring property
owners". The adopted plan includes allowed uses, densities,
building restrictions and other zoning matters, which is included
in the draft of an Ordinance.
Wood reviewed page 4 of proposed Ordinance, A -D.
Wood stated that suggested criteria from Staff report, 1-12, be
reviewed and considered in conjunction with the requested zone
change.
Marl, ditchell, representative of owner stated that they are in
agreement with the Staff report of November 5, 1965 along with the
Steff comments. He then reviewed the history of Falcon Pointe
regarding economics, time share and Development District Goals 2
and 3. He then presented charts of surrounding property,
occupancy rates, bus system impact, tax and recreational revenues
and employment impact. He felt that time share use and short-cerm
use aere essentially the same. He explained that they have spoken
with adjacent property owners regarding any major problems such as
road maintenance, which they have agreed to help mitigate, and
sharing of recreational facility.
Blair opened public hearing.
Wood suggested that letters for or against application be included
again in this public hearing.
Letters were received from Ski and Shore Real Estate, Beaver Creek
West Condo Association, Greg Miller of Benchmark Cleaners, and Mr.
Mock of New Mexico, an adjacent property owner.
Planning 4 Zoning Meeting Minutes
November 5, 1965
Page 3 of b
Lot 45 Blk. 2 BM @ BC - Zone Change Request - Falcon Pointe
Lodge - RHLD to SPLA (Time Share) - Public Hearing_ Can't.
Bronson Rumsey, member of Board of Directors for beaver Creek West
and owner of units stated that their position had not changed from
previous meeting. He stated that applicant had attempted to
mitigate some of their concerns such as the road maintenance
agreement. He explained that Beaver Creek West is open to
discussion and requested that Commission defer any action on the
application until applicant and Beaver Creek West can meet on
December 7. He then reiterated concerns from last meeting.
Blair then closed the public hearing.
Mitchell responded to Rumsey's statemen's and stated that public
notices had in fact been sent in timely manner, that half of the
units in the building were owned by board members of Beaver Creek
West who are primarily short -terming their units, which is what
their proposal is. He stated he did have discussions with board
member Dick Taxman regarding road maintenance.
Bill James, Town Manager and lone -term renter at Falcon Pointe
stated that no one really wants to move from Falcon Pointe, but
with the mixed use of long and short-term people in the building,
that does not always work either. He stated that condos in Summit
County had to be auctioned and that they received a lot of press
in different newspapers, and did not feel that was what Avon
wanted either. He suggested that Commission look at this and
decide if this will be a positive project. He felt that the
difference in short -terming was that you either rent a vacation
week at Beaver Creek West or purchase a week of vacation time at
Falcon Pointe.
Cuny felt that because certain marketing was not succeeding, is a
zone change necessary to make it successful economically.
Landauer asked what this would do to the properties west of Falcon
Pointe. He felt that a precedent would be set for time share all
the way to the trailer park.
Discussion followed.
Donaldson questioned fractionalization regarding Ordinance that
states a building with a Certificate of Occupancy cannot be
fractionalized.
Wood stated that with a remodel, they would require new
Certificates of Occupancy, although this needs further review.
Cuny had concerns of school bus in the area during the time skiers
would be leaving the area along Htth displacement of people that
currently live there.
Mitchell reiterated that he felt the uses were compatible
according to the Master Plan.
Blair then reviewed points 1-12 of Staff comments with Commission
members and discussed each point.
Mitchell stated that he agreed with Staff report.
Planning & Zoning Meeting Minutes
November 5, 1985
Page 4 of 6
Lot 45, Blk. 2, BM @ BC - Zone Change Request - Falcon Pointe
Lodge - RHLD to SPA (Time Share) -- Public Hearing, Con t.
Ciny recommended that Council deny the zone change request from
RHLD to SPA because it is not compatible with points 1-5 and 8 of
Staff comments of the Staff report.
Landauer seconded.
Donaldson felt consideration should be given to tabling
application until neighboring property owners had the chance to
meet with applicant regarding their concerns.
Maddox agreed with Donaldson and felt that there might be more
opposition to technical problems rather than time share.
Rumsey 5tate+d they would be nappy to discuss concerns with
applicant bef;,ie a decision was made.
Landauer felt that the issue was strictly zone change related.
Maddox opposed.
Gersbach abstained.
Motion carried.
Wood then presented report addressed to Council i--om Commission.
The Commission made the following modifications to the report:
1) The use is not compatible; 2) The use is not in harmony;
_) The proposed development is not needed; 4) The proposed SPA is
not desireable because of displacement of long-term residents:
5) The effect of proposed SPA upon futures development of the
area is detrimental to long range development; 6) No change; 7) No
change;
8) Proposed change to SPA is not in conformance with intent of
Master Plan....
Landauer recommended denial of the zone change request from RHLD
to SPA with regard to points 7, 11 and 12 of report to Council
based on: 7) Land surrounding the propo=.ed SPA cannot be
planned....; 11) The SPA creates an :;isoesireable and unstable
environment; and 12) The SPA does not make possible the creation
of a *_reative innovation....
Cuny seconded.
Dingwell and M&Adox opposed.
Gersbach abstained.
Motion carried.
Cuny motioned to send report to Council as amended.
Landauer seconded.
Gersbach abstained.
Motion carried.
Town of Avon Development Plan - Resolution M85-36 P::uptinq
D_evelooment Plan
Gersbach rejoined Commission discussion.
Lamont stated that a letter had been received from local minister
John Roe regarding the Development Goals. His ctiticism was that
churches were only mentioned in Development District 4, and that
consideration should bP riiven to churches in other distri is e_.
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Planning & Zoning Meeting Minutes
November 5, 1985
Page 5 of 6
Town of Avon Development Plan - Resolution #85-36 Adopting
De ielopment Plan. Cont.
well. He explained that the narrative had peen simplified and
that asterisk indicated new language on pages 1-3, 9-10, 11, 14,
15-18, 21 and 22.
Discussion followed.
Mobile home parks were discussed.
Dave Sage, representative of owner of Benchmark Mobile Home Park
stated that the Master Plan does not address the and use of the
park, and the language relates to zoning matters rather than
Development Plan matters. He stated that end use might be
multi -family, with possible light commercial use on the site. He
did not {eel that Master Plan addressed the use in that way. He
stated that language in Development Plan relates to conversion of
the park from its use to its end use. He felt that if language
was not changed, it might lead to misinterpretation by the public.
When conversion of property does come about, there will be issues
to negotiate with zoning requirements that are not appropriate in
the Development Plan.
Bill Past, legal representative of owner stated that specific
concern of language is that it leads public to believe that park
could be divided into very small lots that they could then buy to
place their trailers on. Post felt that was very unlikely because
he did not feel the town would want that and th�, owners probably
would not do that either. He stated it would 13e misleading to
subsequent administrators and to the people living there. Post
stated they are requesting a recommendation that the specific
language be taken out and be addressed in generalities as an
ultimate objective for that parcel.
Discus=ion followed.
Gersbach felt that mobile home part: was being looreed at as a
residential area. He felt that owners were riot looking at it that
way, but as a holding pattern.
Lamont felt that district should be looked at as a residential
district.
Post stated that they were asking for the land to be developed as
residential, but to perhaps include some light commercial.
Cuny did not fPAl that the property owners needed to guarantee the
re=idents a p+.ce to live.
Donaldson felt language would impede potential sale of property
and would probably not be developed then. He did not feel that
160 displaced persons would ever- find a comparable situation.
Donaldson recommended that Council adopt the Development Plan
Goals as presented with the modifications of churches being
allowed as a Special Review Use in all other zone districts, that
typographical errors be corrected, and that the section on mobile
home parks be held from approval for further review by the
Commission.
Maddox seconded.
Passed unanimously.
Wim,
Planning & Zoning Meeting Minutes
November 5, 19e5
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Reading and Approval of P & Z Minutes of 10/15/85 Regular Meeting
Maddox motioned to approve the minutes of October 15, 19135 meeting
as submitted.
Donaldson seconded. i
Passed unanimously.
There being no new or other- business to discuss, Landauer motioned
v► to adjourn the meeting. s
Cuny seconded.
Passed unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 11:20 PM.
Tcorld
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r9M. Loch Secretary p //
Commission Approval
Date
M. Blair
P. Cuny
T. Landauer
C. Dingwel
J. Maddox
M. Dunaldsi
C. Gersbacl