PZC Minutes 121785G
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
MIOUT'ES OF PLANNING A14D ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
DECEMPER 17, 1965
The regular meeting of the Avon Planning and Zoning Commission was
held on Dec�emUer 17, 1985 at 6:45 PM in the TcNn Council Chambers
of the Town of Avon Municipal Complex., 400 Benchmark Road, Avon,
Colorado. The meeting was called to order by Chairman Mike Blair.
Members Present: Mike Blair, Cheryl Dingwell, Jeff Maddox,
Tom Landauer, Hark Donaldson
Members Absent: Pat Cuny, Charlie Gersbach
Staff Present: Norm Wood, Director of Engineering and Community
Development - Jim Lamont, Planning Consultant
Ray Wright, Engineering Technician - Jim Williams,
Building Administrator - Maggie Lach, Recording
Secretary
Work Session
Wood reviewed agenda items of December 17, 1985 wi-ch Commission
members.
Wood reviewed proposed revisions to Procedures, Rules, and
Regulations with Commission.
Regular Agenda Items - 7:40 PM
Citizen input - Eagie Bend - Informal Discussion (Proposed
Annexation and Zoning)
Wood stated this was an informal presentation on the proposed
annexation and proposed project for Eagle Bend property. Wood
stated that applicant would like feedback from Commission
regarding annexation and :_oning possibilities of RHDC, RHLD and
SPA. He explained that this had been discussed at Staff level
along with review of preliminary site plans.
Art Kleinstein, a managing partner of Eagle Bend stated that
discussion on annexation has been on-going for the last 7 months
and that they would like to make a formal presentation in 1986.
Kl�-instein introduced Arthur Wise, planning consultant and
architect of project and Jeff Spanel, engineer.
Wise presented plans to Commission showing location of property,
along with vicinity map and three dimensional midel of project.
Wise explained that they approached this proposal as a single -type
product where 3 story juildings only would be built over the
entire site. The density is approximately 18 units per acre, or
200 units. He stated that Staff encouraged a more open type plan
which creates large open spaces with buildings around them. This
also led to a mid -rise building of 6 stories, over parking, to get
the density and over 60% open space. The concept of project is to
have community building at entrance with swimming pool and
amenities. The tennis courts would be at the northeast corner of
property at the rear of the 6 story building. These facilities
will be shared with Stonebridge project to the east because they
are included in original subdivision.
Planning & Zoning Meeting Minutes
December 17, 1985
Page 2 of 7
Citizen Input - Eaole bend - Informal Discussion (Proposed
Annexation and Zoning). Con't.
Wise stated they tried to create as mutt: open space as they could
in response to the river and the view to the south. A perceived
detriment to the project is the railroad tracks which runs to the
north edge of the property. He stated they have tried to buffer
that with landscaping and with a sound fence around the property
line, and by putting a public_ road along the property to distance
the project.
Landauer asked how this project fits in with Stonebridge.
Wise felt that Stonebridge was too large and too expensive. Eagle
Rend owners decided that proper development include smaller, less
expensive living units at a higher density.
Kleinstein felt it would enhance the Stonebridge project.
Wise explained from pians that community building (6 stories)
would be focal point of project.
Lamont stated that density is not that adverse to the site and
explained site in relation to development goals. He felt that
with what has already been built, in conjunction with lower rise
buildings, it gives 3 kinds of building types. There is a need
for a variety of housing types in Avon. Lamont then discussed his
planning thoughts using the three dimensional model. He generally
felt that the overall development plan for the site was going in
the right direction.
Donaldson felt that concept was well thought out.
Wood stated that zone districts discussed were SPA, which is based
upon a specific plan submittal, which would allow all of the uses
being requested. Another zone district compatible with request is
RHLD, which will allow 20 units per acre, and all of the
residential. Restaurants and commercial uses would be excluded,
which is one of the drawbacks to RHLD. the RHDC zone district
allows everything that they want, but also allows unlimited
comriercial. From Staff level, SPA would be most appropriate
Zoning.
Donaldson had concerns of public road linking with Avon in terms
of traffic flow, etc.
Kleinstein felt that road would eventually connect with Avon.
Landauer had concerns of density increase.
Maddox asked if time sharing had been considered for this project.
Kleinstein stated it had not, but that 6 story building could be
time share oriented.
Dingwell asked if feasibility study had been done.
Kleinstein stated that there is a need for lower cost housing.
Wise stated that proposed units are 1 and 2 bedroom, in the
:90,000 price range.
Blair summarized and stated SPA might be most appropriate zoning;
that access to connection to town is important; a good amount of
open space would be preferable; and site plan, architecture and
style be compatible with surrounding area.
Dingwell stated that site visit would be helpful.
Blair thanked Wise and Kleinstein for presentation.
Planning & Zoning Meeting MinLtes
December 17, 1985
Page 3 of 7
Lots 29 & 32, H11. 2. PM G EC (Lot 1. Proposed Wynfield
Subdivision) Wynfield Inn - Request for Change in Roofing Material_
Design Review
Wright stated that Commission hao approved proposed roofing and
siding material at the October 15, 1985 meeting. The roof
material was concrete tile and tiie siding is Amarillo white
stucco. Appli_ant is requesting a different roofing material of
fiberglass asphalt shingles of a color described as "weathered
wood". Applicant has submitted samples of the Amarillo white
stucco siding and a color sample of the accent bands around
buiding of #27 desert taupe. Tile asphalt shingles will be placed
on the small roof area over the main entry to the building as well
as uver the stairwells and service area. The pool equipment
building and administration building will have these materials
also.
Bob Huston of Merrick and Company, representative of Wynfield Inn
explained that concrete the roofing material was to be used on
stairways and entry to guest room building and public building.
He explained that they had heard from various sources that there
was a problem of breakage with concrete the in this type of
climate, and were also considering the expense of maintaining the
tile and tile falling and injuring someone. He stated they are
aware of the stigma associated with asphalt shingles because of
little shadow lines and relief. The weight of the proposed
shingle is 300# and it is multiple layers giving up to three
thicknesses of shingle. There is a random pattern of shapes and
color. Huston stated that the fiberglass asphalt shingle is a
class A fire retardant shingle.
Discu>sion followed on concrete tile, snow build-up, etc.
Landauer had concerns of shingles presenting same plane from a
distance.
Donaldson stated that he liked the product and had no problem w.!
it and felt it would become more acceptable, but preferred a
charrual blend color.
Huston presented color samples for review.
Dingwell did not care for the color or materials.
Maddox felt that material was a step backward for downtown Avon.
Donaldson felt that. Commission might oe behind in +heir thinking
on acceptance of these types of products, and felt that product.
was safer than wood shingles. He also felt that it offered a long
Iast1rig, uniform appearance.
Dcaaldson motinned to approve application as submitted, with the
exception of the color "weathered wood", and asked for a charcoal
blend calor.
Motion died due to lack of a second.
Maddox asked Huston if charcoal color was acceptable.
Huston felt it would make roof n+ public building too dark.
Donaldson motioned to approve appli:ation as submitted.
Landauer seconded.
Dingwell oppos�1.
Motion carried.
Plaang Zoning fleeting Minutes
December 17, 1985
Page 4 of 7
Folson Property (A parcel of land located in the N1/2 SWI/4,
Section 12 T5S R82W of 6th P.M., lying southerly of U.S. Highway 6
24) Revision to Project Development Sinn - Design Review
Williams stated that applicant is reque=Ling a color change of the
owners address from turquoise to black in lower left corner of
project development sign.
Dingwell motioned to approve the application as submitted.
Maddox seconded.
Passed unanimously.
Lot 23, BlV. 1, BM @ BC (Wolff Warehouse) Special Rev aw Use -
Retail Sales - IC Zone District - Beaver Track & Trail, Inc.
Public Hearing
Williams stated that Patrick Metzdorff, representing Beaver Track
and Trail, Inc. has submitted an application for a Special Review
Use approval to allow 80% wholesale and 20% retail service center
and dealership for snowmobiles in the Wolff Warehouse located on
Lot 23, Bl^rk 1. The IC zone district has allowed uses of
wrrehouse, laboratories, electrical substation, light
manufacturing plants, wholesale sales outlets, showrooms,
industrial, construction and wholesale offices, accessory
building. Special Review Uses consist of: residential unit when
used in connection with business operation automotive or other
vehicular sales and repair shops, retail sales and personal
service outlets, restaurants, public uses, outside storage areas,
general commercial offices. The proposed use appears to be
wholesale sales as well as retail sales and personal service
outlet, which can be allowed as a Special Review Use in this zone
district.
Patrtick Metzdorff, president of Beaver Track and Trail, Inc.
stated that sales include wholesale and retail, including
snowmobiles, ATV s, motorcycles, sales, service and parts
accessories. Most of the accounts or clients are ski areas such
as Vail Associates, Ski Cooper, Tiger Run Resort in Breckenridge,
Piney Ranch and Spraddle Creek. The business is centered around
those types of accounts relating to ordering parts.
Blair opened the public hearing.
There being no one wishing to be heard, the public hearing was
closed.
Donaldson asked if there would be loading dock requirements.
Metzdorff stated that south end of warehouse has loading dock away
from other parking spaces. He stated there is apron off to the
side which appears to offer 2 more parking spaces without
interfering with loading dock.
Donaldson asked if paperwork had been submitted from Blue Steel
Gun Shop regarding parking. He felt this approval be contingent
upon Mr. Wolff getting his details cleaned up tram previous
application.
Metzdorff stated he spoke with Blue Steel Gun Shop and thEy stated
Wolff was reluctant to send letter because there was still 3,000
square feet of warehouse space still available.
Planning & Zoning Meeting Minutes
December 17, 1985
S Page 5 of 7
Lot 23, Blk. 1. BM @ BC (Wolff Warehouse) Special Review Use
Retail Sales, IC Zone District - Beaver Traci; & Trail. Inc_
40 Public Htrarino, Cont.
Wood stated that Commission approved of Blue Steel Gun Shop and
problem was with marginal parking. The 1,600 square feet for
Beaver Track and Trail uses all the lett over parking from Blue
Steel Gun Shop. The condition of that approval was that Mr. Wolff
was to submit a letter that indicated that any other uses would
come through the review process and that they would not exceed the
parking requirements of what was available. This application uses
all remaining parking for the warehouse and leaves 3,000 square
feet of building vacant that would not be allowed any uses.
Without letter, Mr. Wolff could say that Commission is not
allowing him use of his facility ar warehouse space.
Discussion followed on letter to be submitted by Wolff.
Metzdorff stated he would try to procure letter from Wolf+ for
next meeting of Commission.
Discussion followed on proposed use and Special Review Use
criteria.
Dingwell motioned to continue application to next regular meeting
and applicant is to present letter, from property owner, which
states that the owner agrees that the unoccupied portions of the
building will remain vacant until such time as additional parking
spaces are provided in accordance with Town of Avon parking
regulations.
Donaldson seconded.
Dingwell amended motion to include revi?w of letter by Town
Attorney.
Donaldson amended second.
Passed unanimously.
Lot 23, Blk. 1. BM @ BC (Wolff Warehouse) Beaver Track. & Trail.
Inc - Sian Desicn Review - IC Zone District
Williams stated that proposed sign is 18 square feet,
approximately 6" thick, white letters, with a dark blue
background, and a yellow star in the "U". The proposed sign is
produced by Polaris. Location of the sign is to be above the main
door facing east.
Williams then reviewed Section 15.20.040 of Sign Code regarding
Sign Allowance.
Williams stated that sign is over the allowed square footage by 6
square feet. The 6 square feet could be allowed by reducing the
64 square feet allowed in Section 15.28.040, B1. He suggested
that a letter from the owner of the building be submitted
acknowledging this decrease to his signage.
Metzdorff stated that this sign is flush mounted and manufactured
by Polaris. The sign would be lit during business hours.
Landauer said that he liked the sign and color.
Dingwell felt signs on builJing would have no cohesiveness and
would look like West Vail where all the signs are different.
Dingwell motioned to continue application until Special Review Use
is approved and letter is received from property owner.
Donaldson seconded.
Passed unanimously.
Planning &. Zoning Meeting Minutes
December 17, 1985
Page 6 of 7
Feadinc_and Approval of P & Z hlinutes of 1/3/8-" Regular Meeting
Donaldson motioned to approve the minutes of December 3, 19B5
meeting as submitted.
Maddox. seconded.
Passed unanimously.
Other Business
Wood stated that Resolution had been approved regarding adoption
of the Development Plan. He explained that Resolution included
Development Goals, Policies, and Programs, the Narrative and
Development Map. This Resolution went to Council and after
further review of Development Plan, Council recommended a
modification to include only the Goal Statements. Council felt
the Narrative had some problems and should not be adopted as
policy.
Dingwell recommended approval of the Resolution on the Development
Plan.
Donaldson seconded.
Passed unanimously.
Wood stated that in raview of Falcon Pointe, Fractionalization of
existing projects was discussed. Staff has attempted to set up
administrative procedures for Fractionalization in existing
projects. This was presented to Council and they referred it back
to the Commission for review and comment. He explained that
Fractionalization can be applied to existing projects if all
requirements are met under the Municipal Code, and Administrative
Rules for Fractionalization, plus 5 points included in report.
Wood then reviewed 5 points with Commission.
Donaldson stated that because Beaver Bench condos are so small,
could they meet remodelling requirements and add more construction
to project and would that be allowed.
Point #3 - Wood stated that Special Review Use criteria is used on
existing projects because it addresses access and utilities where
density would be increased on the site.
Point #4 - Wood stated Avon Metro District reduced tap fees and
Towr. assumes that reduction and that goes toward Capital
Improvements.
Discussion followed.
Commission agreed that this review be cc,nt.inued to the January 1,
1986 regular meeting for further study.
There being no further business to discuss, Donaldson motioned to
adjourn the meeting..
Maddox seconded.
Passed unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 10:35 PM.
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