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RECORD OF PP.00EEDIYIGS
MINUTES OF REGULAR PLANNING & ZONING CONNISSION MEETING
AUGUST 25, 1983, 7:30 P.H.
The regular meeting of the Avon Planning & Zoning Commission was
r called to order on August 25, 1983, at 7:32 P.M., in the Town
Council Chambers of the Avon Municipal Complex, 400 Benchmark
Road, Avon, Colorado, by Chairman Bill Pierce.
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Poll call was taken with the following member- present: (dike
Blair, Bill Pierce, Clint Watkins, Bob Zeeb.
Members present after roll call: Jerry Davis, Tommy Landauer,
Jim Meehan.
Staff present: Dick Kvach/Planning Director, Renee' Flader/
Recording Secretary.
READING AND APPROVAL OF P & Z (IINU?'ES OF 7/28/83�V11L3� 8/16/83
MEETINGS:
Chairman Bill Pierce recommended that someone move to postpone the
reading and approval of the minutes of 7/28/83, 8/11/83, and 8/16/83
meetings.
Mike Blair moved to postpone the reading and approval of said
minutes to the last item on the Agenda. Motion was seconded by
Bob Zeeb and passed unanimously.
CONCEPTUAL PLAN, REEFW ?QT 10 BLOCK 5 WILDPIDGE SUDDIVISIOid
Dick Kvach introduced this item as being continued over from the
previous meeting of August 11, 1903. He informed the Board that
at the August 11 meeting the Board advised the applicant that
this request iu being considered as a conceptual review and request-
ed the applicant to revise the plan showing the following improve-
ments: (1) Use a different type of roof material; (2) Chimney
cover to be stucco to the top; and (3) Additional trim be added
to the wood siding on the north side of the building.
Jovan Barzelatto, representing the applicant, presented the Board
with a color rendering showing the changes. He stated that using
the Board's suggestions, they have revised it to look better.
Stucco has been added on the chimney stacks, the facade in the back
has been broken up by extending a bedroom and breaking up the eave
line.
Bill Pierce questioned the units all being the same. tie commented
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0 about the front, left side being stucco and questioned if when
it goes around the corner, it goes back to wood.
Tom Bourke, applicant, stated that everything possible has been
done to make the proposed project look better.
Clint Watkins inquired if anything was done to change the shingles
and how many additional parking spaces had been added. Mr.
Barzelatto answered that the fiberglass shingles were still the
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same and that two parking spaces had been added.
Bill Pierce questioned how tall the retaining walls were. rlr.
Barzelatto explained there would be one retaining wall behind the
first building and by the last unit it is approximately 0'.
Bill Pierce commented that with the steep slope he could not see
how it would work or be stable. Jim Decherd, applicant, stated to
Bill that they have an engineer's report verifying that this does
work.
Bill Pierce commented that if the buildings were lower there would
be less fill at the end of the cul-de-sac and the driveway would
not be so steep.
At this time Bill asked for comments from the Commission. Comments
included: (1) Clint I7atkins - improvements had been made, still
has a problem with the fiberglass shingles and the grades of the
driveway, perhaps some of the area for the retaining wall be used
for ad.iitional parking, if the snow storage problem had been
addressed; (2) 'dike Blair - felt good effort had been made to
make the changes recommended, other than the roof, the appearance
looked good, it is very important to solve the grade problem with
respect to access and to revegetate the landscaping; (3) Tommy
Landauer - no problems with the building, felt it looked nice, more
work should be done to assure site would work; (4) Bob 2eeb -
liked the design and if they could make it work, he has no problem
with it; (5) Jim ;dee' . unless there was adequately designed
structural earthwork, or three year_ ?own the road there would
be a problem, instead of separate driveways, consider bringing one
driveway past the units.
After further discussion, Tommy Landauer moved to approve the con-
ceptual plan for Lot 10, Block 5, Wildridge Subdivision with the
provisions that no driveway grade exceed 10%, that the developer
add two additional parking spaces for guest parking and that the
retaining wall alone; the upper driveway be extended or depth problem
be worked out. 'lotion was seconded by Jerry Davis and was passed
with Chairman Bill pierce opposing and hike Blair abstaining.
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THE PALISADES, PINAL SITE DEVELGPP1E1I1 AIID DESIGN REVIEW, LOT 2
BLOCK 5, WILDRIDGE SUBDIVISION
Dick Kvach introduced this -equest which was continued from the
August 11, 1983 meeting. stated that several changes were
requested and a color rendering was desired. Ile stated it will
be constructed of cedar shaves and cedar shingles. Dick went over
the conditions of the Fugust 10, 1983 staff report.
Jerry Davis inquired about the fourth condition, the letter of
credit, and Dick ICvach info.�med hire it is generally required for
landscaping if a project iF completed during the winter months
and the landscaping cannot be done until the following spring.
At this time, John Jackson, applicant, submitted a revised site
plan showing a wider driveway and additional parking spaces.
Chairman Bill pierce stated that he was against projects of this
type in Wildridge, as these types of projects are extremely .
repetitive and one of the most beautiful subdivisions in the county
is going to end up in a series of projects of this type.
Mr. Jackson stated that he had consulted with several architects
who informed him they were against making every unit different and
that continuity throughout a building tends to have longer appeal.
Bill asked Mr. Jackson if the side of the chimney is stucco and the
front wood. llr. Jackson stated that it was. Bill asked why and
Mr. Jackson told him it was suggested at the August 11, 1983 meeting
for accent. Bill asked what was sticking out in front. Mr. Jackson
informed Dill it was the wall of the solar room.
At this time Bill called for motion. Clint Watkins moved to approve
the Palisades Site Plan and Final Design Review and landscaping
on Lot 2, Block 5, Wildridge Subdivision. I•lotion was seconded by
Bob Zeeb and was passed with Bill Pierce opposing.
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LAN SCAPE PLAl]. 14OLFF IIIP CYEG.IIOUSIiyG. SOT 10, BLOCK 1, F9TL•DRTDGE
$1113DI ISION
Dick I(vach introduced this request as a revised landscape plan
and turned discussion over to Larry Smith of Voliter Nursery,
representing Henry Wolff.
Dir. Smith explained that the original landscape basically had
Ponderosa Pines all around with the sprinkler system in the front
only. He explained further that they are proposing to have the
sprinkler system in back also and are changing from only Ponderosa
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Pines to Blue Spruce, Aspen trees and juniper in plantings with
bark edging them.
Clint Watkins stated he wanted to see something from the owner
that they are in agreement with this.
At this time Bill Pierce called for motion. Bob Zeeb moved to
approve the revised landscape plan for Lot 10, Block 1, Wildridge
Subdivision, as recommended. Motion was seconded by Tommy Landauer
and was passed. Bill Pierce and Clint Watkins voted nay.
BEACON EUU—Qlld;TRUICTIOid TRAILS, Pj'iRf`II;G. LOT 70, BLOCK 1,
BENCIIIIARI: SUIBDIVISION
Dick I:vach introduced the request of Bill Stroop, applicant, that he
be allowed to place a construction trailer on the Beacon Hill
construction site. Ile recommended approval subject to: (1) That
the trailer be located on north of and behind the construction
so that it generally is not visible from Nottingham Road; (2) That
the trailer be removed within 15 days after either a permanent or
temporary Certificate of Occupancy has been obtained for Phase I
unless a building permit has been obtained for the construction
of additional units beyond Phase I.
Clint Watkins stated that in having a removal date, there should
be a maximum number of days given.
After short discussion, Jerry Davis moved to approve the parking
of the construction trailer on the Beacon Hill construction site
and that it be removed within 15 days of a permanent Certificate
of Occupancy and that it be reapplied for and reviewed every six
months, beginning this date, 08/25/83. Motion was seconded by
Tommy Landauer and was passed unanimously.
READING & APPROVAL OF P & Z MINUTES OF 07/28Z83 METING
Clint Natkins moved to approve the minutes of 7/28/83. ifotion
was seconded by Tommy Landauer and passed unanimously.
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READING Pall) APPWYLL of MEETING
Clint Watkins moved to approve the minutes of 3/11/83 with the
provision that page 1, third line from the bottom read as "..
lacks imagination in relation to its surrounding environment,..."
Motion was seconded by Jim Meehan and was passed unanimous-
ly.
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READING AND 1PPROVAL OF P_& Z P7INU^t ES OF 08116/83 MEETING
Mike Blair moved to approve the minutes of 08/16/83 special
meeting. Motion was seconded by Jerry Davis and was passed
. unanimously.
COIIPREIIENSIVE PLAN JIEETIN!G.S
Dick Kvach informed the Board that the next two public meetings
for the Comprehensive Plan were scheduled for 08/29/83 and 08/30/83,
and would start at 7:00 P.M. He advised the Board that a workshop
will be held on 08/30/0"3 from 10:00 A.M. until 3:00 P.M., in the
Ski and Shore Peal Estate office.
Bill Pierce reminded the Board that it was agreed that one member
of the P & Z would be at any workshops. It was decided that
Bike Blair, Jerry Davis and Clint Watkins would try to attend.
Bill asked Dick how publicity on the Comprehensive Plan was going
and Dick indicated that the Avon Beaver Creek Times, the Vail Trail,
M71 -IT and KRVV were doing stories on the Comprehensive Plan.
OTHER BUSI14ESS - PAR UII G & LOADING REQUIREMENTS
Dick Kvach noted that the Council asked that the P & Z put the
Parking and Loading Requirements into final format in the near
future. Dich had informed the Council that the staff and P & Z
would try to get there to the Council at the 09/27/83 meeting.
Dick provided the P & Z with a general guideline which was published
explaining what has been done throughout the country in reference of
Off -Street Loading Requirements. He referenced the last page, which
is a table, as being a key. He expressed he would take the last
three pages and revise them into a format similar to the referenced
table. The Commission agreed with this.
There being no further business, Bob Zeeb moved to adjourn. Notion
was seconded by Tommy Landauer and was passed unanimously. Meeting
was adjourned at 10:05 P.N.
/Respectfully
y"Submitted,
Renee' Flader
Recording Secretary
Planning & Zoning Commission
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