PZC Minutes 101383••
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
AVON PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
OCTOBER 13, 1983 - 6:00 P.M.
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The regular meeting of the Avon Planninand Zoning Commission was
called to order on October 13, 1983 at 9:09 p.m., in the Town Council
Chambers of the Avon [Municipal Complex, 400 Benchmark Road, Avon,
Colorado, by Chairman Bill Pierce.
Roll call was taken with the following members present: Mike Blair,
Pat Cuny, Bill Pierce, Clint Watkins.
Town Council present: Al Connell, Jim Wells and Mayor Allan
Nottingham.
Staff present: Dick Kvach, Planning Director; Norm Wood, Town
Engineer; Bill James, Finance Director; Renee' Flader, Recording
Secretary.
Jerry Davis and Tom Landauer arrived late. Jim Meehan was absent.
Chairman Pierce introduced Pat Cuny as the new member to the P & Z
Commission.
The paragraph on the Comprehensive Plan was discussed. Chairman
Pierce recommended that he would like it reflected in 0-c miniites that
he stated th&L while tourism plays an important part in the economy,
we would like to develop diverse economy in the community.
Clint Watkins moved approval of the minutes of the September 29, 1983
with the change on page 4 reflecting Bill Pierce's comment and on page
six the correction in Clint Watkins name. The motion was seconded by
Pat Cuny and was carried with Jerry Davis abstaining.
�WIVUDJ•M
Mr. Kvach stated that Greenbrier
to revise their entrance :ign.
approximately six feet tall and
signs - one approximately 3 feet
project and one 1 1/2 feet by 6
unit being open. The second sig
have a model open. The location
generally where the existing sig
consist of Redwood sandblasted,
border around the edges would be
background with gold letters. I
was requesting that they be allowed
The proposed sign would be
six feet wide. It would consist of 2
by 6 feet containing the name of the
feet noting units for sale and a model
n would only be put up when they do
of the proposed sign would be
n is noi, located. The material would
and the letters would be raised, the
raised and would be a green
t does meet the Sign Code
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requirements.
Bill Pierce felt that it would look too high on the posts.
Mr. Tom Mat?, representing Warner Propoerties and General Partner of
Greenbrier, approached the Commission. He stated that when the
temporary sign was no longer needed they would remove it and lower the
overall sign by 18 to 24 inches.
Mike Blair moved that the sign be approved as recommended by staff.
The motion was seconded by Clint Watkins. There were no nay votes.
The motion was unanimously carried.
SPECIAL REVIEW USE,•UTSIDE STORAGE,• • • ,
BENCHMARK.• •
Mr. Kvach stated that this was a request for outside storage for th-
PMC Warehouse. Mr. Kvach stated that the applicants would erect a
fence being 5 feet 11 inches tall and would be of Shiplap
Cedar material applied vertically on two sides and would be tied into
the hillside so the bank would a 1 1 y -�' ; rd „i.d f ..., u.
side. The purpose of the storage area would be to store construction
material. Mr. Dave Tyrrell approached the Commission. He presented
some photographs of the property and the proposed fence. He stated
that the point where the storage area begins, it wjuld be
approximately 35 feet above the roadway. The Commission discussed the
storage of vehicles in such a storage area.
After discussion Clint Watkins moved approval of the Special Review
Use for outsi6e storage for Lot #17, Block #1, Benchmark Subdivision
for the stnrage of construction material left over from the
construction of Phase I, of the Avon Business Center and for storage
of one small construction trailer also with the prov cions included
that the staff recommended and that it be stained to match the
existing building and that this be a two year approval and at the end
of the two years to return to the Commission for an extension. The
motion was seconded by Tom Landauer. mere were no nay votes. The
motion was unanimously carried.
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It was stated that public notice was given and this was a public
hearing. Mr. Kvach stated that there were no responses. Mr. Kvach
stated that the IC District which this property is located dllows
retail sales and personl service outlet as a Spr,.ial Review Use. This
particular :ase the applicant wants to put in a sewing and fabric
shop. It would be approximately 250 sq.ft. of rental space. Mr.
Kvach stated that th,:y are requesting approval. There is adequate
parking for this ase.
The parking requirements were discussed.
After discussion Pat Cuny moved approval of the Special Review Use of
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be 30 spaces
Clint Watkins
for review.
before anyone could apply for a reduction.
suggested that this ordinance be referred to the council
REVISEDCONPR_EHENSIVE SIGN PROGRAM CHaISTIE LODGE LOT #25 BLOCK #2
BENCHMARK SUBDIVISION.
Dick Kvach introdu-,ed the revised sign program of the Chirstie Lodge
to the Commission and presented the drawing. He stated that the only
thing to be considered would be the actual signage that would be
placed on the structure itself. The drawing identified the type of
material which would be the pan channel type display back lighted,
plexiglass on the front. It will be mounted on the facia of the
building and also proposed a sign policy statement explaining how it
would be allocated among the various people. It was indicted that
there would be no more that 25 sq. ft. in any one sign.
Bill Pierce felt businesses should have unique idenity. It was stated
that the signs will be lighted during business hours and the sign code
requires they be turned off after business hours.
After discussion Jerry Dar;°, moved approval of the Christie Lodge Sign
Code with any changes that may occur after discussion. The motion was
seconded by Tom Landauer. Discussion followed.
Mr. Davis asked if the 25 sq.ft. conforms to the new sign code. Mr.
Kvach stated that it did. Clint Watkins asked if all the businesses
in the building were in agreement with this sign policy. Mr. Kvach
stated that was the impression he had. He stated that the sign
policy was signed by the Condominium Associaiton. The Chairman asked
if there was any more input, being none Jerry Davis moved to amend his
motion to strike the ambiguous part of it since there were no changes.
he amended motion was seconded by Tom Landauer and was carried with
Planning dnd Zoning By -Laws �aj
Bill Pierce not voting on this issue 1
Clint Watkins moved to request the Town Attorney to draft a set of
procedu al rules for running the P & Z meetings that could be amended
or adopted. The motion was seconded by Jerry Davis. Discussion
followed. Mr. Davis suggested that those rules and regulations should
set out what and how the meetings should be conducted. He felt the P
& Z needs some by-laws of what the procedures are. The Chairman
called for a vote, it was unanimously carried.
BUS ADVERTI$WIQ--5jGNS
Mr. Kvach stated that the Town of Avon is selling advertising space on
the buses they are using the bus service throughout Avon up to Beaver
Creek, they are selling nine spaces per bus, a total of twenty seven
signs. The Town Council requested that the P & Z review these signs
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the Retail Sales and Personal Service Outlet, in a portion of apace
5S, Builidng 2B, Lot #16, Block #1, Benchmark Subdivision being 250
sq.ft. for a period of two years with review of the parking situation
after the two years. The motion was seconded by Jerry Davis. There
were no nay votes. The motion was unanimously carried.
SITE PLAN -AND DESIGN REVIEW. 3 DUPLEXES. LOT #111. BLOCK #1, WILDRIDGE
SUBDIVISION.
Mr. Kvach presented the design and general site plan of the duplexes
to the Commission.
Buildings A,B and C, each one would be uniquely designed, the floor
plan for each would be different, the exteriors are different, however
they will try to maintain similiar type materials throughout. It was
basically a stucco with wood. Mr. Mark Donaldson, Architect, and Roy
Amadee approached the Commission. They discussed the proposed three
duplexes. Mr. Donaldson presented the colors and the type of
materials that would be used in these duplexes.
Bill Pierce stated that this was the kind of project that he sees
being built in Wildridge and Wildwood eventually and it shows rhe
sensitivity to the site and creative development. He felt it was a
fine project and a good job. Mike Blair asked what the elevation
was above the present grade. Mr. Donaldson stated that it would be
approximatley a story and a i:alf (15 feet). Mike Blair asked about
the type of roof. Mr. Donaldson stated that some of the roofs would
be flat and some would be pitched. Mr. Blair stated that the
convenants of Wildridge require that all roofs be pitched except that
if its an approved sod flat roof and that the minimum is a 3-12 pitch.
Bill Pierce asked if there were any more comments of this project.
Tom Landauer asked about the roof material. Mr. Donaldson stated that
the inclined roofs would be wood shakes, the flat roofs would be
single plywV!5iL-&11ri+e. n,e-,6rane.. /A)
Tom Landauer moved approval of the Conceptual Design of [dark
Donaldson's project on Lot #111, Block #1, Wildridge Subdivision. The
motion was seconded by Jerry Davis. There were no nay votes. The
motion was unanimously carried.
The Parking and Loading Regulations were then discussed between the P
& 7 Members and the Memtiers of the Town Council.
After lengthy general discussion it was agreed that on page 3, 2.
S4.BS.iol of Off-Si1e-?-dr.k1nS-F.jvilities, line 7, after the words
"deeds" add, "or leases", page 3, add a new paragraph, which would
generally state requirements for leases. Page 5, 6.gQdu-tion in
Parking ReuuiLements for_tlilies��Ise. Line 2, after the word "present"
add 'cz proposed", page 3 6-b, line 2, change "508" to "258", change
"338" co "208", and add a requirement that the minimum lot size should
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for professionalism and good taste. Beaver Liquors and Lips Too signs
were before the Commission for approval.
Be it noted that Pat Cuny stepped down because of conflict of
interest.
Bill Pierce stated that he had received a call from Larry Goad stating
that Mr. Goad felt that the sign of Lips Too was not in good taste.
Mr. Davis felt that Mr. Goad should have been present to express his
own feelings.
Mr. Pierce agreed.
Mike Blair stated that the P & Z was to review the professionalism and
the good taste requested by Council and that's what the P & Z should
do. Mr. Blair stated that Mr. Goad had also talked to him and asked
that he relay his opinion. Mr. Goad thought it was not in good taste
on a public facility. Mr. Blair stated he felt the similiar way, that
it has no place on a public facility.
Mr. Davis stated that he felt it was it his responsibility to monitor
the morality of the community.
y After lengthy discussion Jerry Davis ;,:oved approval of the Lips Too
e sign and part of the condition, if the Council does not like it, they -
can pull it off. The motion was seconded by Tom Landauer. Those in
favor were Jerry Davis and Tom Landaaer. Those voting nay were: Clint
Watkins, Mike Blair, Bill Pierce. The motion was denied.
Discussion followed./,.,
Clint Watkins they moved approval of the Beaver Liquors and the Lips
1 Too sign for the bus advertisement. The motion was seconded by `Tom f
Landauer. Those members voting aye were: Clint Watkins, Tom
{ Landauer, Jerry Davis. Those members voting nay were: Mike Blair and
Bill Pierce. The motion carried and the signs were approved.
Mr. Davis :suggested that the P & Z set-up a special meeting to discuss
some of the agenda items before the next regular meeting. It was
suggested to set aside time (6:00 p.m. -7:30 p.m.) at the next regular
,l meeting for the sign code. The members agreed. Mr. Kvach stated
there was a special meeting scheduled for Tuesday, October 18, 1483 at
\\\qqq 7:30 p.m. to discuss the Comprehensive Plan revised goals.
There being no further business Pat Cuny moved to adjourn. The motion
was seconded by Jerry Davis. The Chairman adjourned the meeting at
10:12 p.m.
Clint Watkins, Secretary
ly Submit
By
Pat-icia J. Doyl Recor ing ecretary
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