PZC Minutes 111083• RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
MINU_:ES OF PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
N NOVEMBER. -1-1-,-1 983, 6:00 P.M.
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The regular meeting of the Avon Planning and Zoning Commission was held on
• November 10, 1983, at 6:00 PPI in th^ To5Q Council Chambers of the Town of Avon
Municipal Complex, 400 Benchmark Road, Avon, Colorado. The meeting was called
to order by Vice Chairman Mike Blair.
,wl0 Members Present: Pat Cuny, Jerry Davis, Mike Blair, Clint Watkins, Tom Landauer.
Members Absent: Jim Meehan, Bill Pierce
Staff Present: Dick Kvach, Planning Director, Maggie Lach, Recording Secretary.
Reading and Approval of P & Z Minutes of 10/27/83 Regular Meetin
Clint Watkins moved to approve the minutes of the October 27, 1983 meeting with
the changes as noted. Pat Cuny seconded the motion. Jerry Davis & Tom Landauer
abstained from approving the minutes since both of them weren't present at the
last meeting. Motion passed unanimously.
The 3rd page of the meeting notes had additions by Pat Cuny noting that she had
made strong comments about not liking the generic term laundromat. Prefer not to
have generic sign with the name of person's name and business on the sign. At
previous meeting it was suggested that "The commission is striving for uniformity
in sions & suggested a wood frame with plexiglass with possible lighting". We
didn't suggest that, we suggested that they (Green's Machine's) go with the
existing sign by-laws of their building. Dick Kvach mentioned that that particular
building didn't have any. dike Blair said that there was a uniform sign design,
but does not believe it's on record anywhere. Pat Cuny wanted it noted in the
minutes that the Planning Commission did not suggest that Stuart Green use the
same type of sign on the building that's already in existence.
Sign Code Review. Be inning with Section 15.28.060
i e air suggeste tat t e size o signs was an item that needs more dis-
cussion and may not want to discuss this until more Commission are present.
Mike B -air mentioned Dick Kvach's compil :ion of a summary of calculations used
to determine allowable sign areas in other towns, i.e. Breckenridge, Silverthorne,
Winter Park, Steamboat Springs, Eagle County, Aspen and Vail. Mike Blair
recommended that discussion be brought up at a later date. Dick Kvach suggested
that Commission members start with exempted signs, Section 15.28.070, to include
certain things or items that are exempted from regulation or portions of them.
For Sale Signs are allowed in windows that are no more than 2 S.F. A new
ordinance allows these signs to be posted in vacant lots that are 4 S.F. Most
real estate signs are 18 x 24. Other exempt types of signs or fine art are
banners, flags, holiday graphics, informational signs which are 1 S.F. in area,
landmark signs, historical signs, parking signs, public safety signs, residen-
tial nameplates (must be 1 S.F.) utility locations, and vehicular signs.
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Question arises as to purpose of these types of signs and if it is to advertise
or to offer a type of service. Credit card signs are not objectionable, but
could get nuc of hand when posting in windows if there are more than 5 types of
cards e-cepted.
F;,e Art is defined as graphics, drawings, painting, sculpture, or ceramics or
as defined by the director. Questions arise as to what is appropriate fine art
or an appropriate definition. Lengthy discussion ensues on different topics of
signs and no clear definition of fine art is reached.
Flag ordinance is also discussed as to size and whether it is advertising or an
attention getting device disguised as advertising. All members discuss this item,
along with banners and no decision is met. Signs will be tabled until next meeting
when all definitions of Fine Art, banners and For Sale Signs are clearer.
Avon Center, Lot A & Lot 55, Block 2, B.S., Exterior Building Changes and Parking
Lot Improvements, (Con't. from July 28, 1983 meeting) _
Avon Center is trying to enlarge their parking/loading zone for trucks. They
would like to turn that area into their main entrance, but at the same time it
would be cutting down on the parking in general for the Post Office. A canopy
that was to be put up for that main entrance was denied by Ute Electric due to
the canopy being too near the transformers.
o Jerry Davis suggested that if the same truck pattern is kept and the parking
speces were moved out•ofj the island area, there would be a driving lane for cars
( o'park and back�ile the truck is in the loading area. Dick Kvach also
��` suggests that if the angular parking is moved, there would be more loading zone
area along the building and the trucks would have better access.
Jerry Davis moved to approve the application for Avon Center to change the
entrance, to make entrance modifications to the building and the area of the
canopy and the Post Office and loading zone and changing the parking confiqu-
rations with the conditions that there be enough room on the east side of the
building for truck loading and car passage and parking by making that corridor
wider to accommodate those three functions. Motion seconded by Tom Landauer.
Passed unanimously.
Beaver Creek Automotive - S.R.U. - Automobile Repair or Expansion, Lot 13, Block
1, B.S., Bay 2 & 5
Dick Kvach explained the use of the bays and shows on the map where the expansion
will take place.
Tom Backus briefly explains this project's history. The applicant, David Svabik,
is asking for 3 things: 1) extension into bay 2 & 5. Bay 5 will accommodate
(1600 S.F., Bay 1 is 1000 S.F. where he (David) started and Bay 2 is 800 S.F.).
This w'.; allow David to park cars, cars under repair and those waiting to be
repaired in Bay 5 along with the Special Review Use of 2 & 5.
2) David is also asking for 3 spaces to the south side of the building. There's
a 15 ft. width there, actually 10 ft. paved on the south side of the building that
3 cars can be placed without being a visual problem to anyone along Metcalf Rd.
He actually wants 4 spaces, that being an additional space for a car under repair.
3) One of the provisions agreed to previously was that all the garage doors be
closed all the time during the work and during the day. Asking for a repeal of
that.
Dick Kvach comments that there are 2 conditions that staff put on the report:
1) striping of the parking lot
2) landscaping completed around the building (bay 5)
There is limited discussion as to whether this will pose a parking problem or not.
Clint Watkins moved to approve the Special Review Use request for Beaver Creek
Automotive to include the 4 storage parking spaces and to keep the garage doors
open and also to include that the previous Special Review regarding junk cars
will apply to this.
Motion seconded by Pat Cuny. Passed unanimously.
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Beaver Creek West Entrance Si -n, Lot 42, Block 2, B.S. (Con't. from October 27,
Dick Kvach described the sign as being redesigned to say Beaver Creek West, dark
stained raised word lettering, off-white painted background, sign framing and roof
would be coffee of-hocolate stained, and stain will be weather resistant. The
main change would be that they'll put it on the west side of the road. Overall
size will be 8 x 4 S.F. and will be same size as the existing sign. Applicant
wishes to include lettering for both sides of face rather than one side.
Jerry Davis moved that the replication for the applicant for Beaver Creek West
Condos be accepted for their sign change and that it meet their depiction with the
indicated colors and materials and their ame0ment to the application of putting
letters on both sides of the sign being perpendicular to the road in the new
location.
Clint Watkins asks if lot owners adjacent to sign have been notified.
Jerry Davis amends motion to say that effort by applicant should be made prior
to the sign being erecter: to notify the people that the sign is being erected.
Motion seconded by Tom Landauer.
Option passed with 1 nay vote from Pat Cuny.
Bus Advertising Sign - Sandstone Creek Club
-Pat Cuny moved that the application for the Sandstone Creek Club sign for bus
advertising as the rough sketch showed (blue background with white letters) be
9,,1111Z,approved.
Motion seconded by Clint Watkins.
�a�►'1"� Motion passed unanimously.
Calypso Pottery - Variance from Regulations for Propane Tank & Addition of an
Exhaust Fan. Lot 13, Block 1, B.S., Bay 4.
Dick Kvach explains this as a variance from a regulation that prohibits above
ground storage of flammable materials or fuel. The applicant wishes to procure a
propane tank for use in his business of pottery until a gas line is put in. There
are 3 conditions: 1) that the tank location and type complies with the fire
department regulations.
2) that the tank is obscured from passing motorists and adjoining property owners
either by a screened fence or plantings of an evergreen variety and,
3) that the tank be removed within 30 days after natural gas is available to the
building.
The owner of the building, Keith Troxel has given applicant approval to install
a propane tank and exhaust fan.
Pat Cuny moved to approve the application by accepting the varations and regula-
tions for above ground propane tank and exhaust fan subject to the recommendations
of staff and to include a natural growing screen to obscure propane tank.
Motion seconded by Jerry Davis & Pat Cuny amends motion that exhaust fan be
painted. Motion carried unanimously.
Chene Du lex Color Revision Lot 26 Block 1 Wildrid e
Jac unn represente t e eney Dup exx cMi k 6Tair states that these are the
colors and finishes in place now (samples submitted).
Clint Watkins moved to approve the application as submitted. Motion seconded
by Jerry Davis. Motion carried unanimously.
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Green's Machine Laundromat Sign - Tract Q, Block 2, B.S. (Con't. from October 27,
Dick vac escri e tie original sign submitted with white plastic letters tall
by 112" long. Commission felt it was not in keeping with original design.
Sign should be reduced to follow code of 12 S.F.
Clint Watkins moved that approval of Green's Machine sign be given with staff's
recommendation that the size of sign be reduced to 12 S.F.
Motion seconded by Tom Landauer. Motion passed unanimously.
P & Z Zoning Commission Bylaws
Mike Blair did attend Co. N.W. Planning Commission workshop. Not a technically
oriented meeting.
1) Theme needs to be a lot of good communication & understanding between
,,'IVy authoritative body council and Planning Commission so that they stay on tha same
track and also that the council pay a little more attention to the commission.
7n�2) Master Plan and ordinances and operating procedures should be reviewe,i often
to see how they're working or not working - if you have by-laws or plans that
work and everbody's getting along well, don't hire a consultant who will change
or improve them - if what you have works, don't fix it, and if& doesn't work,
find out why and fix it. /a/Phn>,I�nf,
3) Shouldn't have long meetings, if it's going to take a long time, take it to _
another meeting and move right along.
Other Business
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General discussion on si_m codes, and other issues regarding Avon road -work B`
being done (beautificatioi).
With no further business to discuss, this meeting was adjourned at 10:00 P.M.,
November 10, 1983.
Jerry Davis made the motion, Tom Landauer seconded motion. Passed unanimously.
Respectfully Submitted
Margaret M. Lach
Recording Secretary
Planning & Zoning Commission