PZC Minutes 04018200 0^
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
MINUTES OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD MEETING
APRIL 1, 1982, 7:30 P. M.
The regular meeting of the Design Review Board of Avon was held on April 1,
1982, at 7:30 p.m. in the Town Council Chambers of the Town of Avon Municipal
Complex, 400 Benchmark Road, Avon, Colorado. The meeting was called to order
by Chairman Bill Pierce.
Let the record show that members present were: Bob Zeeb, Cheryl Dingwell,
Tommy Landauer, Bill Pierce, Jerry Davis & Jim Meehan. Staff members present:
Terrill Knight, Art Abplanalp, Dick Evans, Norm Wood. (Mike Blair was not present).
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(let the record show that Bill Pierce and Bob Zeeb both did not participate
due to conflict of interest. Chair was turned over to Cheryl Dingwell)
Lynn Fritzlen - project architect representing Avon Metro District. Stated not
ready for final approval; would like conceptual only.
Reason for this particular site (Tract C) is because of it's central location
and the site is fairly level. In order to minimize roadcut and maximize parking
and lot useage they have proposed one (1) road driveway for both Tract C & B.
The town will be responsible for de•reloping the park. There will be extensive
landscaping done and park uses dPF rated. It will look like the Municipal
Buildings of the 1920-30's. It 1 to (2) truck bays on the first level and
two (2) apartment units on the secs. '.evel. Northside is the main public
entrance to the firehouse. The bui ig is passive solar. Masonry trombe wall
across the southside. Estimate this .._11 provide fifty percent of the required
heating. The finished materials will be wood (either cedar or redwood), shake
roof. Stick frame construction.
Staff comments:
Terrill - Concerned with the use being permitted on this lot without some change
in existing regulations; also whether this is the best location for a firehouse.
The problem occurs with the regulatory point of view. Zoning is SPA, designated
uses bnsed on a document (WR plat & WR covenants). This tract of land is
designated as a park. The plat of Wildridge states under notes: 113(c)"Open space,
pedestrian access and park tracts may be used for utility easements when permitted
by the owner and the Town of Avon. Also such tracts may be used for emergency and
maintenance vehicles." Feels the Board should not hastily decide this is the
only location for the facility. If a fire station is allowed then the design
should be worked into the park plan. The through driveway should not become a
shortcut for traffic. It appears that the driveway will be built on the park land
parcel. It also appears to become the backup apace for the commercial area. The
public should not build parking for private commercial enterprise. Either the
applicant or the Town should check into the problems of using park land/park
planning and what facilities were intended to be provided in Wildridge.
Art stated that the WR Plat groups together ope.: space, pedestrian access & park
tracts. The WR Cove-7nts deals with this separately. The reception number of
the WR Plat is the L iginal reception number of the Covenants of Wildridge. There
was an amendment to the covenants. Should be checked into. If there is a change
in use, then the property owners should be notified by public hearing.
Norm - concerned with the access from the fire station onto the main road or
secondary road. Needs to be checked into as to the choice of the access.
Lynn stated that Tract B is designated as light commercial and four (4) apartments
and is approximately 1/4 acre in size. Both Tract B & Tract C are owned by
Benchmark Properties. The Wildridge committee has already 6pprived this. The
building will be dedicated to the Town. The park will be built next year.
Jay Hosburgh and the Avon Metro District have evaluated all the tracts of land
and several private lots that are still owned by Benchmark. This was the best one.
Wildwood will have a substation.
Jorry stated ho would want a letter from Jay Hosburgh stating this location is the
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Complex, 400 Benchmark Road, Avon, Colorado. The meeting was called to order
by Chairman Bill Pierce.
Let the record show that members present were: Bob Zeeb, Cheryl Dingwell,
Tommy Landauer, Bill Pierce, Jerry Davis & Jim Meehan. Staff members present:
Terrill Knight, Art Abplanalp, Dick Evans, Norm Wood. (Mike Blair was not present).
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Tract C. Wildridce Subdivision, File No. 82-3-7 (tabled from 3/18/82 meeting).
(let the record show that Bill Pierce and Bob Zeeb both did not participate
due to conflict of interest. Chair was turned over to Cheryl Dingwell)
Lynn Fritzlen - project architect representing Avon Metro District. Stated not
ready for final approval; would like conceptual only.
Reason for this particular site (Tract C) is because of it's central location
and the site is fairly level. In order to minimize roadcut and maximize parking
and lot useage they have proposed one (1) road driveway for both Tract C & B.
The town will be responsible for developing the park. There will be extensive
landscaping done and park uses designated. It will look like the Mu:.iicipal
Buildings of the 1920-30's. It has two (2) truck bays on the first level and
two (2) apartment units on the second level. Northside is the main public
entrance to the firehouse. The building is passive solar. Masonry trombe wall
across the southside. Estimate this will provide fifty percent of the required
heating. The finished materials will be wood (either cedar or redwood), shake
roof. Stick frame construction.
Staff comments:
Terrill - Concerned with the use being permitted on this lot wi_`.out some change
in existing regulations; also whether this is the best location for a firehouse.
The problem occurs with the regulatory point of view. Zoning is SPA, designated
uses based on a document (WR plat & WR covenants). This tract of land is
designated as a park. The plat of Wildridge states under notes: #3(c)"Open space,
pedestrian access and park tracts may be used for utility easements when permitted
by the owner and the Town of Avon. Also such tracts may be used for emergency and
maintenance vehicles." Feels the Board should not hastily decide this is the
only location for the facility. If a fire station is allowed then the design
should be worked into the park plan. The through driveway should not become a
shortcut for traffic. It appears that the driveway will be built on the park land
parcel. It also appears to become the backup space for the commercial area. The
public should not build parking for private commercial enterprise. Either the
applicant or the Town should check into the problems of using park land/park
planning and what facilities were intended to be provided in Wildridge.
Art stated that the WR Plat groups together open space, pedestrian access & park
tracts. The WR Covenants deals with this separately. The reception number of
the WR Plat is the original reception number of the Covenants of Wildridge. There
was an amendment to the covenants. Should be checked into. If there is a change
in use, then the property owners should be notified by public hearing.
Norm - concerned with the access from the fire station onto the main road or
secondary road. !Reeds to be checked into as to the choice of the access.
Lynn stated that Tract B is designated as light commercial and four (4) apartments
and is approximately 1/4 acre in size. Both Tract B & Tract C are owned by
Benchmark Properties. The Wildridge committee has already approved this. The
building will be dedicated to the Town. The park will be built next year.
Jay Hosburgh and the Avon Metrn District have evaluated all the tracts of land
and several private lots that are still owned oy Benchmark. This was the best one.
Wildwood will have a substation.
Jerry stated he would want a letter from Jay Hosburgh stating this location is the
best. Bob stated that for the record a document is needed from Benchmark saying
that the building is to be dedicated to the Avon Metro District.
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Terrill stated that a fire station may be able to be adapted to a steeper lot
where an active park cannot. There may be a problem in that the details were
• not taken care of at the point these agreements were made. The intent is clear
in some cases, there is no documentation.
Nick Dalba stated that the Board should decide whether the building is suitable
for the area. Terrill suggested the Board not make a committment as to accept
• the building anywhere but the style issues could bebrought up to give the
applicant some guidance.
Jim Meehan - liked the building design, the use of trombe walls and that it is
passive solar. Suggested the Board approve the site based on Terrill checking
�r into the applicable zoning and if itturns out to be okay, then the Board grant
conceptual approval. Cannot be approved for another site.
Jerry Davis - concerned with building this and adding two units to a lot that
was never zoned for any units.
Art stated that if it is governmental then it can be argued that governmental
is not bound by covenants. Can't believe the Metro District is going to build
something on private property until they have title to it. The Wildridge plat
says park tracts can be used for municipal facilities. If we rely on the plat
then it may be possible. The covenants can be amended only by the Wildridge
Development Company or by seventy-five percent vote of the people.
Lynn stated that there is no lot that is designated as municipal.
Terrill suggested that some direction be given to the applicant.
Jerry - concerned with how the owners of surrounding lots will feel with
a fire station being built there.
Cheryl concerned with the necessity of the access to the road.
Tommy liked the lines of the building.
Cheryl concerned with how it will fit in with the other pump houses, materials
used.
Lynn stated that it will be basically the same.
Terrill stated that the issue is beyond the applicants hand. The Town needs to
take an active role in resolving this issue the tradeoffs between parks and
other municipal type facilities. This is a public use and if there is another
lot or tract that may be more appropriate there are ways the Town or the District
could obtain those lots by paying the fair market value. It is a fairly large
issue that concerns the entire town, the way parks are provided for persons
living in town, what facilities are on each of those parks, and how they relate
to each other.
Cheryl stated there are some legal questions to deal with as to the use of
the lot. General consensus of the Board is that they like the design of
the building.
(The chair was turned back over to Bill Pierce)
Item No. 2. Balas East Townhomes, Gara a Additions, Lot 6, Block 1, Benchma
(Bob Zeeb stated he had a conflict of interest due to living there)
Bill Nolan made the presentation. He stated that the Board was concerned with
the visibility of the garages from the town. Passed out some pictures showing
the drop in grade which would probably only show the roofs of the garages from
the road. The concept involves using about 15 to 18 feet of the Towns property
for road access.
Art stated there are two problems to deal with such as whether the Town will
grant the easement (to be decided by the Council), and whether the Town actually
the Town owns it. According to the plat the tract is private not public.
There's a chance the town may not own it but Benchmark might.
Bill Pierce stated that the Board could only address the question of the design
of the garages and the installation of them.
Bill Nolan stated they would like to know who to go to first. If the Board
says it is feasible, then they will go to the attorneys aLd find out who owns
the land and whether or not it can be used. They would also like to landscape
to the creek to help it look better.
Bill Pierce - ,io problem with the garages. Need to address the zoning questions
passive sol_ . , bested the Board ap,..., — , :,1 .m based un Terrill checking
into the applicable zoning and if itturns out to be okay, then the Board grant
conceptual approval. Cannot be approved for another site.
Jerry Davis - concerned with building this and adding two units to a lot that
was never zoned for any units.
Art stated that if it is governmental then it can be argued that governmental
is not bound by covenants. Can't believe the Metro District is going to build
something on private property until they have title to it. The Wildridge plat
says park tracts can be used for municipal facilities. If we rely on the plat
then it may be possible. The covenants can be amended only by the Wildridge
Development Company or by seventy-five percent vote of the people.
Lynn stated that there is no lot that is designated as municipal.
Terrill suggested that some direction be given to the applicant.
Jerry - concerned with how the owners of surrounding lots will feel with
a fire station being built there.
Cheryl concerned with the necessity of the access to the road.
Tommy liked the lines of the building.
Cheryl concerned with how it will fit in with the other pump houses, materials
used.
Lynn stated that it will be basically the same.
Terrill stated that the issue is beyond the applicants hand. The Town needs to
take an active role in resolving this issue the tradeoffs between parks and
ether municipal type facilities. This is a public use and if there t.s another
lot or tract that may be more appropriate there are ways the Town or the District
could obtain those lots by paying the fair market value. It is a fairly large
issue that concerns the entire town, the way parks are provided for persons
living in town, what facilities are on each of those parks, and how they relate
to each other.
Cheryl stated there are some legal questions to deal with as to the use of
the 1:=. General consensus of the Board is that they like the design of
the building.
(The chair was turned back over to Bill Pierce)
Item No. 2, Balas East Townhomes, Garage Additions, Lot 6, Block 1, 3enchmark
(Bob Zeeb stated he had a conflict of interest due to living there'
Bill Nolan made the presentation. He stated that the Board was concerned with
the visibility of the garages from the town. Passed out some pictures showing
the drop in grade which would probably only show the roofs of the garages from
the road. The concept involves using about 15 to 18 feet of the Towns property
for road access.
Art stated there are two problems to deal with such as whether the Town will
grant the easement (to be decided by the Council), and whether the Town actually
the Town owns it. According to the plat the tract is private not public.
There's a chance the town may not own it but Benchmark might.
Bill Pierce stated that the Board could only address the question of the design
of the garages and the installation of them.
Bill Nolan stated they would like to know who to go to first. If the Board
says it is feasible, then they will go to the attorneys and find out who owns
the land and whether or not it can be used. They would also like to landsca�
to the creek to help it look better.
Bill Pierce - no problem with the garages. Need to address the zoning questions
such as amount of site coverage. Would ask that there be some extensive landscaping
done between the creek and the garages. The garages should be built in a nice
manner with possible offset. In addition, maybe some areas in front be put back
into landscape. Concerned with the ownership of the garages, want something
addressing the parking situation. (Preliminary Review Only - no action)
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ab Applicant requested that this matter be tabled until the Meeting of
April 15, 1982.
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Item No. 4, Avon Center Phase I, Flags & Compact Cars, Lot A, Block 2,
Benchmark Subdivision, File No. 82-4-1.
4ft Nick Dalba made the presentation. Two parts of the requests: 1. materials
used for the flag poles (exposed aggregate) and 2. use of Avon Center flags.
Proposing 1 Colorado, 1 American and 1 Avon Center flag along West Beaver Creek
Boulevard which will be forty feet high. Total of 15 flag poles - 13 of which
are Avoir Center.
Terrill - stated in his opinion the Avon Center flags are considered signs, but
they may be approved. There is an additional 14 sq.ft. left of sign area from
the main project sign, that could be devoted to the flags. The Board had no
problem with the Colorado and American Flags. Cheryl commented that with all
the Avon Center flags the building might look cheapened. The majority of the
Board felt that the Avon Center flags were considered signs.
Nick proposed that along Beaver Creek Boulevard there will be three (3) flags
8' x 12' in size (1 American, 1 Colorado, 1 Avon Center which is to be changed
periodically with other countries or states). These three signs will be forty
feet in height. At the entrance to the project there will be two (2) 4' x 6'
flags (Avon Center) which will be thirty feet in height. On the southside of
the building (Bus turnaround) there will be two (2) 2' x 4' flags (Avon Center)
which will be twenty feet in height. There will never be more than a total of
ten (10) Avon Center flags for all four phases of the project.
Cheryl motion to approve the flags as amended on the submitted drawing. There
will never be more than ten (10) flags on the entire project of all four phases.
Motion was seconded by Tommy. Passed unanimously.
Compact cars - Nick stated they need to define campact car criteria. Suggested
having a workshop to discuss this. Terrill stated that Nick could apply for
a variance for the parking. It was finally suggested that Nick meet with the
Zoning Advisory Committee to discuss these items.
Block 1. Wildridee Subdivi
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(Bill Pierce stated there was a conflict of interest due to helping with the
design of the duplex. Chair was turned over to Cheryl Dingwell).
Sep Cheney made the presentation. Proposing to build a duplex. Redesigned
the plan completely. Will use natural cedar siding, stucco. Garage doors wlI
more than likely be wood sided. Entryways recessed with can lights.
Terrill stated that it does appear to conform with the standards. Norm stated
that it is one of the best site plans he has seen. Grading was good.
Jerry moti^med to approve the plans as submitted, seconded by Bob, passed
unanimously. (Cheryl turned the chair back over to Bill Pierce).
Cheryl motioned to approve the minutes of March 18, 1982, seconded by Tommy,
passed unanimously.
Cheryl motioned to adjourn the meeting, seconded by Tommy, passed unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 10:15p.m.
4spectfully submitted
Melody Cummings
Recording Se retary
Nick Dalba made the presentation. Two pads she requests: 1.
used for the flag poles (exposed aggregate) and 2. use of Avon Center flags.
Proposing 1 Colorado, 1 American and 1 Avon Center flag along West Beaver Creek
Boulevard which will be forty feet high. Total of 15 flag poles - 13 of which
are Avon Center.
Terrill - stated in his opinion the Avon Center flags are considered signs, but
they may be approved. There is an additional 14 sq.ft. left of sign area from
the main project sign, that could be devoted to the flags. The Board had no
problem with the Colorado and American Flags. Cheryl commented that with all
the Avon Center flags the building night look cheapened. The majority of the
Board felt that the Avon Center flags were considered signs.
Nick proposed that along Beaver Creek Boulevard there will be three (3) flags
8' x 12' in size (1 American, 1 Colorado, 1 Avon Center which is to be changed
periodically with other countries or states). These three signs will be forty
feet in height. At the entrance to the project there will be two (2) 4' x 6'
flags (Avon Center) which will be thirty feet in height. On ,%e southside of
the building (Bus turnaround) there will be two (2) 2' x 4' flags (Avon Center)
which will be twenty feet in height. There will never be more than a total of
ten (10) Avon Center flags for all four phases of the project.
Cheryl motion to approve the flags as amended on the submitted drawing. There
will never be more than ten (10) flags on the entire project of all four phases.
..otion was seconded by Tommy. Passed unanimously.
Compact cars - Nick stated they need to define compact car criteria. Suggested
having a workshop to discuss this. Terrill stated that Nick could apply for
a variance for the parking. It was finally suggested that Nick meet with the
Zoning Advisory Committee to discuss these items.
]ridge Subdivision,
(Bill Pierce stated thele was a conflict of interest due to helping with the
design of the duplex. Chair was turned over to Cheryl Dingwell).
Sep Cheney made the presentation. Proposing to build a duplex. Redesigned
the plan completely. Will use natural cedar siding, stucco. Garage doors will
more than likely be wood sided. Entryways recessed with can lights.
Terrill stated that it does appear to confo--m with the standards. Norm stated
that it is one of the best site plans he has seen. Grading was good.
Jerry motioned to approve the plans as submitted, seconded by Bob, passed
unanimously. (Cheryl turned the chair back over to Bill Pierce).
Cheryl motioned to approve the minutes of March 18, 1982, seconded by Tommy,
passed unanimously.
Cheryl motioned to adjourn the meeting, seconded by Tommy, passed unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 10:15p.m.
l@spectfully submitted by�
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