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PZC Minutes 030482RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS MINUTES OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD MEETING MARCH 4, 1982, 7:30 P. M. The regular meeting of the Design Review Board of Avon was held on March 4, 1982, at 7:30 p.m. in the Town Council Chambers of the Town of Avon Municipal Building, 400 Benchmark Road, Avon, Colorado. The meeting was called to order by Chairman Bill Pierce. Let the record show the members present were Cheryl Dingwell, Tommy Landauer, Bob Zeeb, Bill Pierce, Mike Blair & Jim Meehan. Member Jerry Davis was not present. Staff Members present were Dick Evans & Norm Wood. Art Abplanalp was also present. Terrill Knight was not present. Item No. 1, Avon Center Unit 803 Remodel (Enclosure of Balcony), Lot A, Block 2, Benchmark Subdivision, File No. 82-3-3. Nick Dalba made the presentation. He stated that this unit is his own personal residence. Originally the unit was to have been a greenhouse, but was changed at the last minute to an enclosed balcony. The reason was due to the fact that he was concerned with possible leaking of the greenhouse. The change was made without Design Review Board approval. He does not have a Certificate of Occupancy for the unit. It does not change the square footage or the roof line. It will match the rest of the building. Mike stated that he does not agree with the change in that it doesn't keep in with the overall design of the building. Bob commented that the guidelines should be followed by everyone. Cheryl made a motion to approve the amendment to the plan as shown. Seconded by Tommy. (1 opposed vote) Motion was carried to approve the change. Block 3, Wildridge RNM Rick Agett made the presentation. Only a conceptual review - looking for an overall opinion and comments from the Board. The duplex will be 5500 square feet total in size. Building materials will be stucco (medium beige) siding (medium brown stain) and cedar shake roof. Norm commented that the site plan shows Lot 46 and the application states Lot 47. It is supposed to be Lot 46. Mike stated that the building seemed very large from the south elevation. Rick stated that the owner's intent is to have as large units as possible. Tommy suggested that the applicant keep in mind the side setbacks. Feels it is a good building for the site, but doesn't like the garages side by side. Cheryl suggested that along the front maybe some landscaping be done so it doesn't look"toollong and plain. Bob liked the design and agreed with Tommy on the setbacks on the sides. The Board suggested using a darker stucco color with the same siding due to such a mass. The pitched part of the roofs are to be shake and the flat part is to be sod. Rick stated the reason for the flat roof area in the middle is to break up the massive look. If the area were to be covered completely with slope.l roofs it would appear to be more massive than it does now. If the flat roof is to be sod it will have to meet grade on one side and this roof does not. Mike commented that if the roof is to have a pitch that is less than the Wildridge Covenants calls for, then a varaince would have to be obtained from the Wildridge Committee. (Conceptual Review Only - no action by the Board). No one was present to make the presentation. Building, 400 Benchmark Road, Avon, Colorado. The meeting was called to order by Chairman Bill Pierce. Let the record show the members present were Cheryl Dingwell, Tommy Landauer, Bob Zeeb, Bill Pierce, Mike Blair & Jim Meehan. Member Jerry Davis was not present. Staff Members present were Dick Evans & Norm Wood. Art Abplanalp was also present. Terrill Knight was not present. Item No 1 Avon Center Unit 803 Remodel (Enclosure of Balcony), Lot A, Block 2 Benchmark Subdivision, File No. 82-3-3. Nick Dalba made the presentation. He stated that this unit is his own personal residence. Originally the unit was to have been a greenhouse, but was changed at the last minute to an enclosed balcony. The reason was due to the fact that he was concerned with possible leaking of the greenhouse. The change was made without Design Review Board approval. He does not have a Certificate of Occupancy for the unit. It does not change the square footage or the roof line. It will match the rest of the building. Mike stated that he does not agree with the change in that it doesn't keep in with the overall design of the building. Bob commented that the guidelines should be followed by everyone. Cheryl made a motion to approve the amendment to the plan as shown. Seconded by Tommy. (1 opposed vote) Motion was carried to approve the change. Rick Agett made the presentation. Only a conceptual review - looking for an overall opinion and comments from the Board. The duplex will be 5500 square feet total in size. Building materials will be stucco (medium beige) siding (medium brown stain) and cedar shake roof. Norm commented that the site plan shows Lot 46 and the application states Lot 47. It is supposed to be Lot 46. Mike stated that the building seemed very large from the south elevation. Rick stated that the owner's intent is to have as large units as possible. Tommy suggested that the applicant keep in mind the side setbacks. Feels it is a good building for the site, but doesn't like the garages side by side. Cheryl sug�sted that along the front maybe some landscaping be done so it doesn't look "Eoo long and plain. Bob liked the design and agreed with Tommy on the setbacks on the sides. The Board suggested using a darker stucco color with the same siding due to such a mass. The pitched part of the roofs are to be shake and the flat part is to be sod. Rick stated the reason for the flat roof area in the middle is to break up the massive look. If the area were to be covered completely with sloped roofs it would appear to be more massive than it does now. If the flat roof is to be sod it will have to meet grade on one side and this roof does not. Mike commented that if the roof is to have a pitch that is less than the Wildridge Covenants calls for, then a varaince would have to be obtained from the Wildridge Committee. (Conceptual Review Only - no action by the Board). No one was present to make the presentation. -1- AVO'"1 Item No. 4, Rocky Mountain Cable TV, Additional Earth Station Darrell Davis made the presentation. Asking for approval to put up another Antenna next to the present one. Also asking for approval to park construction vehicles and equipment in the service yard where the antenna is. The earth station will be white in color, dish -like, sits on pillars, will be surrounded by an eight foot chain link fence. The storage/service yard presently has a trencher, spools of cable and a pickup truck. Would like to store equipment and materials owne.l by Rocky Mtn. Cable. The area is about 300 square feet around. The easement was granted to Rocky Mtn. Cable from Venture Twenty, to construct the earth station. The Board had no problem with the earth station, and approval was granted. The lease from Venture Twenty states that the applicant is allowed to put mechanical equipment on the lot such as an Earth Station but does not say they can park or store vehicles. Bill suggested that the applicant meet with Dick Evans and Art Abplanalp to get the Special Review Use procedure set up for the storage 1 -se. Item No. 5, Bales East Townhomes, Preliminary Review for Garage Additions, Lot 6, Block 1, Benchmark Subdivision, File No. 82-3-1. Bill Nolan made the presentation. Stated there are eight units at the east building and they would like to have garages. Resurveyed the lot and the south end of the building with the idea to use buildings to store vehicles in and also as a sound barrier. The only way to get the cove_ed parking would be if they were allowed to encroach upon the town's property approximately fifteen feet on the east side for the driveway. They presently have problems with the snow plows coming by and filling the lot with snow. Norm stated that units are required to have a 25 foot setback from the street. Wanted to know if the parking units are to be condominiumized. Could request a setback variance. Mike asked if the garages could be built onto the front of the building. Bill Nolan statea it would not look appropriate - too choppy & cutup. Bill Pierce stated that he is stongly opposed to building on the Town's property. Suggested some landscaped be Cheryl & Tommy want to look at the building and lot area first befor�ag`a decision. Bill P. suggested each member go by and look at the site. Bill Nolan is to come to the next meeting. Norm discussed Snow Storage for the Town. The regulations refer to snow storage but there are no requirements for the amount of space or where to be located. Could be in landscaped areas. Mike stated that there has to be a place designated based on calculated amounts of snow and the area it would take up or it would have to be a regulation saying snow has to be hauled away. Feels these are the only two choices. This should be put into the zoning ordinance with the parking requirements. Dick suggested using some of t.iie forest land for dumpsites for snow. Norm and Art are to work out the wording and take to the Council Art discussed John Dunns letter regarding ROADCAL. He explained that on the original town plat, the certificate specifically excluded 71 lots and about 6 tracts of land from the dedication. Roadcal's lots were excluded from this dedication by that language. Even though Roadcal and 60-65 other lots were included, actually these limitations are not binding against them because of the state law that says unless someone is signatory to an official plat, the plat is z,ot binding against them as far as restrictions. Either the Town Charter or State Law says that the use of lots can only be governed by an Ordinance. If the Town wants to apply these densities to the lots then the Town Council needs to adopt an Ordinance amending the zoning ordinance and applying these figures to the lots accepted on the plat. Originally these lots were not assigned any densities. Now the town has to apply densities for the first time to these lots. around. The easement was granted to Rocky Mtn. Cable from Venture Twenty, to construct the earth station. The Board had no problem with the earth station, and approval was granted. The lease from Venture Twenty states that the applicant is allowed to put mechanical. equipment on the lot such as an Earth Station but does not say they can park or store vehicles. Bill suggested that the applicant meet with Dick Evans and Art Abplanalp to get the Special Review Use procedure set up for the storage use. Item No. 5, Balas East Townhomes, Preliminary Review for Garage Additions, Lot 6. Block 1. Benchmark Subdivision. File No. 82-3-1. Bill Nolan made the presentation. Stated there are eight units at the east building and they would like to have garages. Resurveyed the lot and the south end of the building with the idea to use buildings to store vehicles in and also as a sound barrier. The only way to get the covered parking would be if they were allowed to encroach upon the town's property approximately fifteen feet on the east side for the driveway. They presently have problems with the snow plows coming by and filling the lot with snow. Norm stated that units are required to have a 25 foot setback from the street. Wanted to know if the parking units are to be condominiumized. Could request a setback variance. Mike asked if the garages could be built onto the front of the building. Bill Nolan stated it would not look appropriate - too choppy & cutup. Bill Pierce stated that he is stongly opposed to building on the Town's property. Suggested some landscaped be%,Cheryl & Tommy want to look at the building and lot area first befor?' 8"a decision. Bill P. suggested each member go by and look at the site. bill Nolan is to come to the next meeting. Norm discussed Snow Storage for the Town. The regulations refer to snow storage but there are no requirements for the amount of space or where to be located. Could be in landscaped areas. Mike stated that there has to be a place designated based on calculated amounts of snow and the area it would take up or it would have to be a regulation saying snow has to be hauled away. Feels these are the only two choices. This should be put into the zoning ordinance with the parking requirements. Dick suggested using some of the forest land for dumpsites for snow. Norm and Art are to work out the wording and take to the Council Art discussed John Dunns letter regarding ROADCAL. He explained that on the original town plat, the certificate specifically excluded 71 lots and about 6 tracts of land from the dedication. Roadcal's lots were excluded from this dedication by that language. Even though Roadcal and 60-65 other lots were included, actually these limitations are not hinding against them because of the state law that says unless someone is signatory to an official plat, the plat is not binding against them as far as restrictions. Either the Town Charter or State Law says that the use of lots can only be governed by an Ordinance. If the Town wants to apply these densities to the lots then the Town Council needs to adopt an Ordinance amending the zoning ordinance and applying these figures to the lots accepted on the plat. Originally these lots were not assigned any densities. Now the town has to apply densities for the first time to these lots. -2- Art explained the parking situation for Meyers Ranch/Cottonwood. There was a cuestions of who owns the property for the parking. Beaver Creek/ Vail Associates thinks they own it. They gave a title commitment which matches the Parcel 2 description but doesn't mention Parcel 1. If Beaver Creek/Vail Associates is using the parking then Cottonwood would not have the parking. If the Forest Service and the County say this property be exclusive then the Town can't supersede the county regulations because it's out of the town. The Board felt this parking situation is ridiculous and should not be accepted. Peregrine - Norm stated there were some changes on the plans and felt that the DRB might like to see the revised plans. The parking structure is 15 feet narrower than originally proposed. The plan has not addressed the snow removal and storage accurately. Cheryl asked if the Town Attorney had been contacted by anyone from Meyers Ranch concerning accommodation units and parking. Art stated that no one had contacted him. He said he would check before the next meeting. Cheryl said the minutes should show that nothing was received from the applicant regarding the fact that they may have contacted the attorney. The question is if there is a lock -off unit in a condo and depending on the number of lock -offs should that increase the required parking. Art stated that in order for the Town to control it is to have them provide a parking space for each lockoff unit or it will have to be covered through the regulation or even a covenant to be enforced by the Town that lockoffs will not be permitted. That the units created by the Condo declarations will not be divided for occupancy. Bill commented that lockoff units are needed in Avon. Without them Avon can't exist. The town needs small divisible units. Cheryl asked what should be done about lockoff units util something is set. Mike stated that lockoffs or creating new units is not legal as the Ordinance is written now. Doesn't feel it should be permitted. Until the rules and ordinances are changed, the Board should oolv approve what is allowed. Cheryl asked about the City Market appeal for the signs. Bill said that the applicant would rather go before the Town Council. He explained the request for the signs to Art, and how the DRB turned it down. Art stated that if they modify the application, then the Town Council has to send it back to the Design Review Board. Norm stated that nothing was approved by the Town Council for City Market. He read from the T.C. Minutes that City Market should return to the DRB. Cheryl mentioned again that the DRB should receive copies of the Town Council minutes. Cheryl made a motion to approve the minutes of 2/17/82, seconded by Jim, passed unanimously. Mike asked that the Town Attorney explain the Ordinance regarding densities. Art explained it brings the town plat into the zoning ordinance and also sanctions past transfers. Bill commented that having Art at the meeting was extremely helpful and beneficial to the Board. Cheryl made a motion to adjourn the meeting, seconded by Bob, passed unanimously. Respectfully submitte )1AJA)dqAJ Melody Cu#sngs Recording Secretary