PZC Minutes 021782RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
MINUTES OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD MEETING
FEBRUARY 17, 1982, 7:30 P. M.
The regular meeting of the Design Review Board of Avon was held on
February 17, 1982, at 7:30 p.m., in the Town Council Chambers of the
Town of Avon Municipal Building, 400 Benchmark Road, Avon, Colorado.
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Bill Pierce.
Let the record show that
Dingwell, Tommy Landauer,
Members present were Dick
were not present).
Item No. 1. Cot
the Board Members present were Bob Zeeb, Cheryl
Bill Pierce, Mike Blair, Jim Meehan. Staff
Evans & Norm Wood. (Terrill Knight & Jerry Davis
val Phase I, Preliminary Phases II & III
Jim Morter/Morter, Fisher, Arnold -Architects. At the last meeting there was
some problems with the engineering, subdivision process, general design and
other items. There were some items that need to go before the Town Council
such as defining the easement around the tower, accommodation units and
parking spaces.
Some of the trees have been moved to the higher part of the project to help
screen the Sunridge area. Two loading spaces have been provided. The exit
area of the project has been made two lanes wide and there will also be
acceleration/deceleration lanes on Highway 6. The Bike Path will either come
through the project or along the Eagle River. Willing to work with the Town
on this issue. Zoning issues - defining an easement for the tower which is to
be 80 feet high. They have signed an agreement with the Town that they would
stay at the 60 feet height except in one select area. They would like to
define an easement that would allow the tower to go to 80 feet. If the
Design Review Board grants this then they will approach the Town Council with
an amendment to allow this.
Norm stated that this review should be looked at carefully. Still items that
need to be checked such as grading plan, thirty foot strip of land along the
river. Concerned with how vehicles will get in and out of the loading spaces.
These items could easily affect the location of the buildings and possibly
the sizes.
Tim Garton - stated there is no longer any natural vegetation along the river
due to Upper Eagle Valley installing a sewer system.
Norm also commented about the parking spaces. The plan does not show all of
the parking.
Tim Garton stated they own one-half acre of land across the street in the
Vail Associates parking lot. Would be will -'ng to give Vail Associates a
quit claim deed for the property if they would allow Cottonwood to have
55 spaces of permanent parking.
Bill stated that it would be non on-site parking, out of town property.
Mike commented that there is a provision in the zoning ordinance for something
sort of like this. It doesn't ;ay it has to be in or out of town.
Jim Morter commented that they are required to have 333 parking spaces and with
the 55 across the street they will have that amount.
Dick suggested that the Board get a legal opinion on this matter.
Bill asked about how the bike path easement is to be defined. There is a
verbal agreement. Norm said something should be in writing. Could be shown
on the plat.
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Town of Avon Municipal Building, 400 Benchmark Road, Avon, Colo dr
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Bill Pierce.
Let the record show that the Board Members present were Bob Zeeb, Cheryl
Dingwell, Tommy Landauer, Bill Pierce, Mike Blair, Jim Meehan. Staff
Members present were Dick Evans & Norm Wood. (Terrill Knight & Jerry Davis
were not present).
Item No. 1, Cottonwo inal Approval Phase I, Preiimi
(Continuation 1•rlm2 z meeting , File No. 3
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Jim Morter/Morter,r, !r, Arnold -Architects. At the last meeting there was
some problems with t': engineering, subdivisior process, general design and
other items. There were some items that need to go before the Town Council
such as defining the easement around the tower, accommodation units and
parking spaces.
Some of the trees have been moved to the higher part of the project to help
screen the Sunridge area. Two loading spaces have been provided. The exit
area of the project has been made two lanes wide and there will also be
acceleration/deceleration lanes on Highway 6. The Bike Path will either come
through the project or along the Eagle River. Willing to work with the Town
on this issue. Zoning issues - defining an easement for the tower which is to
be 80 feet high. They have signed an agreement with the Town that they would
stay at the 60 feet height except in one select area. They would like to
define an easement that would allow tl•e tower to go to 80 feet. If the
Design Review Board grants this then they will approach the Town Council with
an amendment to allow this.
Norm stated that this review should be looked at carefully. Still iteio_: that
need to be checked such as grading plan, thirty foot strip of land along the
river. Concerned with how vehicles will get in and out of the loading spaces.
These items could easily affect the location of the buildings and possibly
the sizes.
Tim Garton - stated there is no longer any natural vegetation along the river
due to Upper Eagle Valley installing a sewer system.
Norm also commented about the Darking spaces. The plan does not show all of
the parking.
Tim Garton stated they own one-half acre of land across the street in the
Vail Associates parking lot. Would be willing to give Vail Associates a
quit r.laim deed for the property if they would allow Cottonwood to have
55 sp?ces of permanent parking.
Bill stated that it would be non on-site parking, out of town property.
Mike commented that there is a provision in the zoning ordinance for something
sort of like this. It doesn't ay it has to be in or out of town.
Jim Morter commented that they are required to have 333 parking spaces and with
the 55 across the -treet they will have that amount.
Dick suggested that the Board get a legal opinio;i on this matter.
Bill asked about how the bike path easement is to be defined. There is a
verbal agreement. Norm said something should be in writing. CoulJ be shown
on the plat.
Jim Morter stated that Terrill told him that regard'.ng the lock -off units and
parking, it should be worked o;it with the DRB and then taken to the Council
as a variance procedure.
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Bill st;.ted that the Board could not give approval for this without first
seeing what is to be done.
Jim Meehan stated that this is a legal matter that needs legal advice.
It was suggested by the Board that the appllcailt contact the Town Attorney
regarding the accommodation units and parking.
Also, the Staff is to send a letter to the Town Attorney to get some answers
to the Board's questions.
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Jim Morter asked if the Board could send a letter to the Council recommending
that the tower be allowed to be 80 feet. It will be for visual architectual
design only. Non -occupied space.
Bill proposed a motion stating that the area shaded in gray on the map
(initialed by Bill Pierce) of the Meyers Ranch, be permitted to have, that
the DRB recommend to the Town Council that this area be permitted to have a
maximum height of 80 feet rather than the 60 feet previously agreed to, not
otherwise modifying the 80 foot linit agreed to on other portions of this site.
This space be unoccupied and only be an architectual feature. Cheryl accepted
the motion, seconded by Bob, (1 opposed vote) Motion was carried.
Applicant requested that the remainder be tabled until further notice.
2. Continuation of Avon Center Sign _Program Temporary Si
Nick. Dalba made the presentation. Stated that in the sign program he
presented there was no discussion of temporary signs. Would like to clari�y
what can be done for a temporary sign. He stated that Christy Sports put
up their sign and was informed that it was not within the allowable sizing
and did not have a permit. Nick immediately told them to cover the sign.
He tried to get on the DRB but had no luck. He talked with Bill Pierce
regarding the sign and Bill stated that he felt that if they stayed within
the twenty foot allowable size, the Board might consider it feasible to keep
the sign up. Bill stated that he does not have the authority to grant
permission to put up signs.
Mick stated tha* he would like to modify the sign criteria "Exhibit F" to
say that paragraph 10 of the general sign criteria will read: Temporary
signs will be allowed for a period of not more than 60 days, and must not
be over twenty square feet in size.
Mike commented that he felt there was not proper control over the project
and that too many things have been overlooked. Does not agree with the
sign program being turned over to Avon Center.
Nick stated that he would remove the banner from the building.
Cheryl made a motion to approve temporary signs under the program, as amended
in paragraph 10 of the general sign criteria, as long as the signs are within
the square footage area allowed for the space. The developer can review the
siyns and they can be there for 60 days only. Color does not matter. The
size of the letters must also comply with the sign code. Motion was seconded
by Tommy. (1 opposed vote) notion was carried to approve temporary signs.
Bill commented that whatever happens between the Town and Avon Center for
erecting a sign without going through the proper procedures, is beyond the
control of the Design Review Board. (Re: Summons issued to Christy Sports).
No. 3, Las Mananitas_Restaurant, Exterior Remodel, Lot 25, B1
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Les Morgan made the presentation. Requesting approval to have an exterior
addition for mechanical chase for tho restaurant. There will he a 5' foot.
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Jim Morter asked if the Board could send a letter to the Courcil recommending
that the tower be allowed to be 80 feet. It will be for visual Frchitectual
design only. Non -occupied space.
Bill proposed a motion stating that the area shaded in gray er the map
(initialed by Bill Pierce) of the Meyers Ranch, be permitted to have, that
the DRB recommend to the Town Council that this area be permitted to have a
maximum height of 80 feet rather than the 60 feet previously agreed to, not
otherwise modifying t:.e 80 foot limit agreed to on other portions of this site.
This space be unoccupied and only be an architectual feature. Cheryl accepted
the motion, seconded by Bob, (1 opposed vote) Motion was carried.
Applicant ,equested that the remainder be tabled until further notice.
Item No. 2, Continuation of Avon Ce
Nick Dalba made the presentation. Stated teat in the sign program he
presented there was no discussion of temporary signs. Would like to clarify
what can be done for a temporary sign. He stated that Christy Sports put
up their sign and was informed that it was not within the allowable sizing
and did not have a permit. Nick immediately told them to cover the sign.
He tried to get on the DRB but had no luck. He talked with Bill Pierce
regarding the sign and Bill stated that he felt that if they stayed within
the twenty foot allowable size, the Board might consider it feasible to keep
the sign up. Eill stated that he does not have the authority to grant
permission to put up signs.
Nick stated that he would like to modify the sign criteria "Exhibit F" to
say that paragraph 10 of the general sign criteria will read: Temporary
signs will be allowed for a period of riot more than 60 days, and must not
be over twenty square feet in size.
Mike commented that he felt there was not proper control over the project
and that too many things have been overlooked. Does not agree with the
sign program heing turned over to Avon Center.
Nick stated that he would remove the banner from the building.
Cheryl made a motion to approve temporary signs under the-rogram, as amended
in paragraph 10 of the general sign criteria, as long as the signs are within
the square footage area allowed for the space. The developer can review the
signs and they can be there for 60 days only. Color does not matter. The
size of the letters must also comply with the sign code. Motion was seconded
by Tommy. (1 opposed vote) Motion was carried to approve temporary signs.
Bill commented that whatever happens between the Town and Avon Center for
erecting a sign without going through the proper procedures, is beyond the
control of the Design Review Board. (Re: Summons issued to Christy Sports).
Item No. 3, Las Mana.nitas Restaurant, Exterior Remodel, Lot 25, Block 2,
Benchmark Sub ivisinn, File No. 82-1-1.
Les Morgan made the presentation. Requesting approval to have an exterior
addition for mechanical chase for the restaurant. There will be a 5,; foot
screen on the roof to hide the equipment. The flat part of the chase will be
galvanized metal anti will be painted to match the chinney caps.
Bill commented that he did meet with Les and review the drat,inas and made some
comments. He did not guarantee any approval from the Design Review Board.
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Bob motioned that the Board accept the proposal as submitted. Motion was
seconded by Jim. Bill commented that the Fire Department stated that it
ow could not be allowed on the inside so therefore it would have to be on the
exterior of the building.
Mike asked (for the record) that if the appearance of this meets with a lot
v of criticism or if the Board does not like it, if the Board might request
that the applicant come back to the Board and consider minor modification
to improve the appearance. This is not part of the motion and it does not
mean it would have to be taken down.
Applicant ageed to do this if necessary.
Motion was passed unanimously.
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Item No. 4, Chene Du lex Conceptual Review, Lot 26, B1
Subdivision, Fi a No. 82-2-4.
Sep Cheney/Cheney Company made the presentation. Presented two sets of
drawings. One of the pians showed the existing contour lines of the lot
and the other showed what is will look like later. Lot size is 16,756 square
feet. Total living for both sides is 3,318 square feet. Upper half of the
building will be wood siding and the lower will be stucco. Roof will be
cedar shakes.
Tommy - concerned with the mirror image look. Suggested making some changes
to break up the effect. Bill agreed with him.
Sep stated that he wantei this duplex to look plain to go with the little
slope of the lot. Doesn't want it to look cut-up. Wants it to look clean
and smooth. It will be iestled down into the lot. he likes the mirror
image and that is what ha wants to live in.
Bob stated that he would like to see it broken up more. Needs to submit
plan showning drainage, snow storage, lighting, etc. Cheryl commented that
it looks too boxy and plain. Tommy said it needs some stepping.
Mike commented that there may or may not be some conflict with the two
driveways due to not being on a busy road. Formal landscape plan will make
a difference as well as colors and finishes.
(Conceptual Review only - no formal action by the Board)
There being no further business, the minutes were read. Bill asked that
the secretary check the number of hotel units for Confluence @ Beaver Creek
and correct.
Cheryl made a motion to approve the minutes of 2/3/82 as amended. Motion was
seconded by Tommy, passed unanimously.
Mike asked about the Avon Center unit which was closed in on the balcony. Dick
stated that a letter was send to Nick Dalba regarding this and Nick is coming
to the DRB meeting or. 3/4/82 to discuss this.
Cheryl asked what the Town Council's re.;ponse was to the letter sent to them
regarding City Market's appeal. She suggested that the DRB get copies of the
minutes.
Cheryl motioned that the DRB receive copies of all the Town Council meeting
minutes and copies of letters regarding actions on recommendations that the
CRB makes. Motion was seconded by Mike. Passed unanimously. (Secretary to
notify the Town Clerk of this.)
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Applicant ageed to do this if necessary.
Motion was passed unanimously.
Lot 26, Block 1, Wildr
Sep Cheney/Cheney Company made the presentation. Presented two sets of
drawings. One of the plans showed the existing contour lines of the lot
ano the other showed what is will look like later. Lot size is 16,756 square
feet. Total living for both sides is 3,318 square feet. Upper half of the
building will be wood siding and the lower will be stucco. Roof will be
cedar shakes.
Tommy - concerned with the mirror image look. Suggested making some changes
to break up the effect. .3ill agreeu with him.
Sep stated that he wanted this duplex to look plain to go with the little
slope of the lot. Doesn't want it to look cut-up. Wants it to look clean
and smooth. It will be nestled down into the lot. He likes the mirror
image and that is what he wants to live in.
Bob stated that he would like to see it broken up more. Needs to submit
plan showniig drainage, snow storage, lighting, etc. Cheryl commented that
it looks too boxy and plain. Tommy said it needs some stepping.
Mike commented that there may or may not be some conflict with the two
driveways due to not being on a busy road. Formal landscape plan will make
a difference as well as colors and finishes.
(Conceptual Review only - no formal action by the Board)
There being no further business, the minutes were read. Bill asked that
the secretary check the number of hotel units for Confluence @ Beaver Creek
and correct.
Cheryl made a motion to approve the minutes of 2/3/82 as amended. Motion was
seconded by Tommy, passed unanimously.
Mike asked about the Avon Center unit which was closed in on the balcony. Dick
stated that a letter was send to Nick Daiba regarding this and Nick is coming
to the DRB meeting on 3/4/82 to discuss this.
Cheryl asked what the Town Council's response was to the letter sent to them
regarding City Market's appeal. She suggested that the DRB get copies of the
minutes.
Cheryl motioned that the DRB receive copies of all the Town Council meeting
minutes and copies of letters regarding actions on recommendatians that the
DRB makes. Motion was seconded by Mike. Passed unanimously. (Secretary to
notify the Town Clerk of this.)
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Cheryl made a motion to adjourn the meeting. Motion was seconded by Tommy.
Passed unanimously. Meeting was adjourned at 10:30 p.m.
spectfully submittedltfy:
Melody C mi gs
Recording Secretary
Design Review Board