PZC Minutes 010682y
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
MINUTES OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD MEETING
JANUARY 6, 1982, 7:30 P. M.
The regular meeting of the Design Review Boar; for the Town of Avon was
held on January 6, 1982, at 7:30 P.M., in the Town Council Chambers
of the Town of Avon Municipal Building, 400 Benchmark Road, Avon,
Colorado. The meeting was called to order by Chairman Bill Pierce.
Board Members present were Bob Zeeb, Tommy Landauer, Bill Pierce,
Jerry Davis, Mike Blair. Staff Members present were Terrill Knight,
Dick Evans & Norm Wood.
Item No. 1, Continuationof Sign Criteria for Avon Center Conmercia
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Art Swords made the presentation. He stated the intention is to establish
a sign criteria which will become a legal part of the lease for Avon Center.
Tenants will be signing acceptance of the sign criteria. Intent is to
help the Town out by not sending applicants to the Design Review Board
without the proper type sign. They are asking the Design Review Board to
set a precedent for all the signs at Avon Center as they will be affected
by the design of the concept on the building. At the last meeting the
Board requested that the applicant submit a drawing showing what the signs
would look like on the building. Also they wanted to study the criteria
a little more in depth.
On Beaver Creek Boulevard they are proposing an illuminated letter along the
face of the building. (sample was brought to meeting). There are three (3)
districts of sign areas. 1. Signs which will face onto Beaver Creek Boulevard
can be viewed from 155'-175'. 2. Signs along exterior Pedestrial Mall - can
be viewed from 10to 65'. 3. Interior signs in the mall.
Primary concern from the last meeting was with signs in District 1. Letters
will be a maximum of 15 inches high. Christy Sports sign - will be mounted
on the vertical portion of the metal canopy roof over the storefront. The
Criteria specifically states that signs will be located on the wall adjacent
to the storefront. In this particular case there is no place to put it
adjacent to storefront entrance. Proposing for Christy Sports sign to be
15 inch high letters approximately 12 inches wide. By calculating the face
area of the letter it comes out to about one third the area if you enclosed
the perimeter of the area. Christy Sports sign if calculate the actual square
inch area of the individual letters it canes out to about 4;= square feet. If
you take the perimeter enclosure of each individual letter it cores out to
sixteen square feet. Art stated that he feels these letters for the signs
are not imposing. District 2 sign criteria is more restrictive than the
Town Sign Code.
Bill commented that he doesn't feel that 15 inch high letters are too tall.
He is opposed to calculating the area of a letter. Feels it is a burden on
the Building Inspector. Should come up with a better definition of calculating
areas.
Art stated that Phase I will have the maximum possibility of having three (3)
signs on Beaver Creek Boulevard side of the project. One will be the Post Office
which will be a small sign. In Phase II only four (4) stores will front onto
Beaver Creek Boulevard. Actual impact will be minimum.
Jerry commented that if each of the four signs is sixteen square feet then that
is like having 5 signs because each sign is four square feet over what the
Ordinance allows. Need to establish a criteria and stick with it.
Art stated that they have tenants who are ready to order signs now so they
need to have a criteria set as soon as possible.
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Colorado. The meeting .,as called to order by chairman Bill Pierce.
Board Members present were Bob Zeeb, Tommy Landauer, Bill Pierce,
Jerry Davis, Mike Blair. Staff Members present were Terrill Knight,
Dick Evans & Norm Wood.
Item No. i, continua*_i of Sig-, Criteria for Avon Center Commercial Areas
conti;rued from 12/16/81 meeting
Art Swords made the presentation. He stated the intention is to establish
a sign criteria which will become a legal part of the lease for Avon Center.
Tenants will be signing acceptance of the sign criteria. Intent is to
help the Town out by not sending applicants to the Design Review Board
without the proper type sign. They are asking the Design Review Board to
set a precedent. for a71 the signs at Avon Center as they will be affected
by the design of the concept on the building. At the last meeting the
Board requested that the applicant submit a drawing showing what the signs
would look like on the building. Also they wanted to study the criteria
a little more in depth.
On Beaver Creek Boulevard they are proposing an illuminated letter along the
face of the building. (sample was brought to meeting). There are three (3)
districts of sign areas. 1. Signs which will face onto Beaver Creek Boulevard
can be viewed from 155'-175'. 2. Signs along exterior Pedestrial Mall - can
be viewed from lOto 65'. 3. Interior signs in the mall.
Primary concern from the last meeting was with signs in District 1. Letters
will be a maximum of 15 inches high. Christy Sports sign - will be mounted
on the vertical portion of the metal canopy roof over the storefront. The
Criteria specifically states that signs will be located on the wall adjacent
to the storefront. In this particular case there is no place to put it
adjacent to storefront entrance. Proposing for Christy Sports s'gn to be
15 inch high letters approximately 12 inches wide. By calculating the face
area of the letter it comes out to about one third the area if you enclosed
the perimeter of the area. Christy Sports sign if calculate the actual square
inch area of the ind`vidual letters it comes out to about 4i square feet. If
you take the perimeter enclosure of each individual letter it comes out to
sixteen square feet. Art stated that he feels these letters for the signs
are not imposing. District 2 sign criteria is more restrictive than the
Town Sign Code.
Bill commented that he doesn't feel that 15 inch high letters are too tall.
He is opposed to calculating the area of a letter. Feels it is a burden on
the Building Inspector. Should come up with a better definition of calculating
areas.
Art stated that Phase I will have the maximum possibility of having three (3)
signs on Beaver Creek Boulevard side of the project. One will be the Post Office
which will be a small sign. In Phase II only four (4) stores will front onto
Beaver Creek Boulevard. Actual impact will be minimum.
Jerry commented that if each of the four signs is sixteen square feet then that
is like having 5 signs because each sign is four square feet over what the
Ordinance allows. Need to establish a criteria and stick with it.
Art stated that they have tenants who are ready to order signs now so they
need to have a criteria set as soon as possible.
Bill stated that the sign area needs to be defined.
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Terrill stated this does comely with the Sign Code with the exception
of the way they measure the sign. Board should decide whether or not they
want to see each sign or approve the whole program. Sixteen square feet
• may be allowed if they allocate from the main building sign. The Board
could approve this program knowing it is a variance of a minor nature to
allow sixteen square fee or get a committment in writing stating this is
a share of the overall main sign of 64 square feet. Sign area does need
to be defined more clearly.
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Art stated that he measured a rectangle around each letter.
Terrill stated that the Board doesn't need to deal with signs in District 3
(interior signs).
Art stated they are not allocating any of the main building sign square
footage to individual tenants. The main sign will more than likely be
no where near the allowed 64 feet.
The signs which will front onto Beaver Creek Boulevard will probably be
raised onto the canopy rather than the face of the building.
Bill stated that the criteria seems reasonable and should work out well.
Th.: Board needs to decide if 12 square feet is too small.
Terrill stated that the Board couldn't change the Ordinance but could allow
a minor variance.
Bill stated he would feel comfortable with allowing twenty square feet.
Art stated they would be willing to make a proposal to change their criteria
on a conditional basis that the Board allow them 25 square feet or something
like that and if the Council later feels that is too much then they would
meet again and come up with something else. Asking the Board to approve the
criteria so they can get on with the signs. Nick Dalba asked that the Board
tell them which way thp,, should measure the sign area. Block measuring would
be the easiest.
Jerry suggested that if the Board can accept measuring in box letters, then
allow twenty square feet. It's not going outside the Ordinance just giving
them an answer and still keeping it limited. Mike felt there wouldn't be
any problem. Tommy - keep theletters 15 inches high, measure each letter in
a box. Sign can't be over 20 square feet. Bob - no problem.
Bill felt they should use the outside perimeter of the group of the letters.
The only change that needs to be made in the Criteria would be in District One,
#8. He asked the Board if they would agree to 20 square feet measuring outside
perimeter of sign in rectangular group.
Amend #8 to say area shall not exceed tweoty square feet. Sigr area shall be
calculated by enclosing the perimeter of the area around the entire word
grouping and logo.
Jerry asked Nick about the sign in the parking lot - RESIDENTS. Nick stated
it was put up as a requirement to let tenants know where to park. It is only
temporary as per Dick Evans.
Bill asked Terrill if the Board has the right to delegate the responsibility
of the signs complying to another party.
Terrill stated that if the Roard agrees with and accepts the Cr teria, then
it can be turned over to Avon Center. Each tenant will have to obtain a
permit for their sign so Dick will be able to see that the signs do conform
with the Criteria.
Mike stated that the criteria says that each sign will be reviewed by the Board.
Terrill - thu Board can approve the sign criteria as it is or approve it with
Terrill stated that the Board doesn't need to deal with signs in District 3
(interior signs).
Art stated they are not allocating any of the main building sign square
footage to individual tenants. The main sign will more than likely be
no where near the allowed 64 feet.
The signs which will front onto Beaver Creek Boulevard will probably be
raised onto the canopy rather than the face of the building.
Bill stated that the cri is seems reasonable and should work out well.
The Board needs to decide if 12 square feet is too small.
Terrill stated that the Bodrd couldn't change the Ordinance but could allow
a minor variance.
Bill stated he would feel comfortable with allowing twenty square feet.
Art stated they would be villing to make a proposal.. to change their criteria
on a conditional basis that the Board allow them 25 square feet or something
like that and if the Council later feels that is too much then they would
meet again and come up with something else. Asking the Board to approve the
criteria so they can get on with the signs. Nick Dalba asked that the Board
tell them which way they should measure the sign area. Block measuring would
be the easiest.
Jerry suggested that if the Board can accept measuring in box letters, then
allow twenty square feet. It's not going outside the Ordinance just giving
them an answer and still keeping it limited. Mike felt there wouldn't be
any problem. Tommy - keep theletters 15 iiihes high, measure each letter in
a box. Sign can't be over 20 square feet. Bob - no problem.
Bill felt they should i.se the outside perimeter of the group of the letters.
The only change that needs to be made in the Criteria would be in District One,
k8. He asked the Board if they would agree to 20 squa;,e feet measuring outside
perimeter of sign in rectangular group.
Amend #8 to say area shall not exceed twenty square feet. Sign area shall be
calculated by enclosing the perimeter of the area around the entire word
grouping and logo.
Jerry asked Nick about the sign in the parking lot - RESIDENTS. Nick stated
it was put up as a requirement to let tenants know where to park. It is only
temporary as per Dick Evans.
Bill asked Terrill if the Board has the right to delegate the responsibility
of the signs complying to another party.
Terrill stated that if the Board agrees with and accepts the Criteria, then
it can be turned over to Avon Center. Each tenant will have to obtain a
permit for their sign so Dick will be able to see that the signs do conform
with the Criteria.
Mike stated that the criteria says that each sign will be reviewed by the Board
Terrill - the Board can approve the sign criteria as it is or approve it with
condition that each sign must come before the Board. If sign is not in
compliance then Dick has the authority to enforce the matter or he could bring
it before the Board.
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Terrill stated that there may be a problem in the enforcement of the sign
criteria.
Bill made a motion that the Design Review Board approve the comprehensive
sign criteria which is listed as "Exhibit F" submitted by the Avon Center
regarding the sign program for their building, under the condition that
W the wording of Item #8 under District One be changed to read the sign
shall not exceed twenty (20) square feet. Sign area shall be calculated
by enclosing the perimeter of the area around each word in the sign name.
This sign Program only applies to Phase I and shall be subject to review
after that date and permits are still required by the Town and shall be
obta'ned through the Building Official. Motion seconded by Jerry,
passea unanimously.
(Bill Pierce turned the chair over to Mike Blair due to a financial
involvement with Gamma Development outside of Avon).
George Kanesaw made the presentation. Requesting an extension to keep the
two storage trailers at the present site for one year longer.
Dick stated that the permit has expired. (12/31/81).
Bob stated that the Mayor was upset with the fact the trailers were just
sitting there and construction has not started. Dick stated that they
need to start construction because the Ordinance says that.
Bob - feels that they should set a precedent as far as letting people come
in and park storage trailers on vacant lots. Gama stated they were going
to start construction prior to the first of the year. The trailers were
moved from another job site which was finished. There is no other place to
park them. Feels that one year is too long.
Tommy stated that if they don't start construction by June 1, 1982, then they
must be moved out.
Jerry stated maybe they should only allow until April or May. They should
know by then if construction is to start.
Bob stated that this should be the only extension allowed.
Terrill - the Board has the right to put conditions and time limits on the
extension period.
Dick wants to be able to keep the trailers controlled in an orderly way.
George Kanesaw stated that construction is intended. The trailers aren't
just sitting there to be used for nothing.
Mike stated that the people of the Town are concerned with the appearance of
the Town.
Bob motioned that the Board grant them the storage of the two trailers until
June 1, 1982 and this is to be the final extension. If construction has not
been started by then, then they will be removed until they do start
construction and they will then have permission to move them back. Seconded
by Tommy. No further discussion. Motion was carried to keep the trailers
until June 1, 1982.
Mike turned the Chair back over to Bill.
inis sign urogram only applies zo rr:se : ano snail CC SUDJecL zo revie
after that date and permits are still required by the Town and shall be
obtained through the Building Official. Motion seconded by Jerry,
passed unanimously.
Item No. 2, Gamma Development Company, Extension for two (2) storage trailers
at lots 3%3& 4. Block 2, Benc mar Su ivis Nn, Savov Square i le No. 8Z
Pierce turned the chair over to Mike Blair due to a financial
involvement with Gamma Development outside of Avon).
George Kanesaw made the presentation. Requesting an extension to keep the
two storage trailers at the present site for one year longer.
Dick stated that the permit has expired. (12/31/81).
Bob stated that the Mayor was upset with the fact the trailers vere just
sitting there and construction has not started. Dick stated that they
need to start construction because the Ordinance says that.
Bob - feels that they should set a precedent as far as letting people come
in and park storage trailers on vacant lots. Gamma stated they were going
to start construction prior to the first of the year. The trailers were
moved from another job site which was finished. There is no other place to
park them. Feels that one year is too long.
Tommy stated that if they don't start construction. by June 1, 1982, then they
must be moved out.
Jerry stated maybe they should only allow until April or May. They should
know by then if construction is to start.
Bob stated that this should be the only extension allowed.
Terrill - the Board has the right to put conditions and time limits on the
extension period.
Dick wants to be able to keep the trailers controlled in an orderly way.
George Kanesaw stated that construction is intended. The trailers aren't
just sitting there to be used for nothing.
Mike stated that the people of the Town are concerned with the appearance of
the Town.
Bob motioned that the Board grant them the storage of the two trailers until
June 1, 1982 and this is to be the final extens :n. If construction has not
been started by then, then they will be removed until they do start
construction and they will then have permission to move them back. Seconded
by Tommy. No further discussion. Motion was carried to keep the trailers
until June 1, 1982.
Mike turned the Chair back over to Bill.
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Item No. 3, Nottingham Associte
as Pro er_ty, Zoning & Conceptual Review,_
Public Hearing, File No. 82
Bill asked Terrill to explain this to the Board Members.
Terrill explained this is a proposed annexation to the Town and at the same
time is to zone the property SPA. In order to set uses and densities it
must be accompanied by a plan. They are requesting annexation and zoning
to t"e Town.
Bill asked if the property is already annexed to the Town and does the Board
have the right to review this. Terrill stated that it is not already annexed.
Whatever the Board decides would not be binding unless they were actually
annexed. This does give flexibility to the applicant.
Bill stated that he is concerned with the Town and the County playing against
each other.
Terrill feels it is better for the Board to see t'ie plan and what is going on.
Jerry stated he didn't feel that it is fair to tkapplicant to come in and
request zoning and once they are annexed, they may not get the density they
originally wanted.
Bill asked how binding the Boards decision would be.Supposing the Board
changes their mind at a later date.
Terrill - It is like any conceptual review. It depends on what the Town
Council adopts with this particular zoning of SPA and annexes the property
it would be as any other piece of property that comes in. Conceptual plan
is merely that. Conceptual review is no way binding. The Board only makes
comments.
Mike commented that it is appropriate and acceptable from the Town's viewpoint
to annex the property rather than have such a development occur adjacent to
the Town and be in the County. It would be to the Town's advantage to be in
the Town. Would feel more comfortable reviewing it as a potential addition
to the Town rather than reviewing it and having it stay in the County. Feels
it is appropriate to review a conceptual design to give some guidelines and
guidance along with the review and recommendation to ti,,, Town Council on the
annexation and zoning application.
Jim Wells - Annexation has already started. Second reading will be on
January 12, 1982. Council is concerned with them maybe going to the County.
If applicant doesn't like what the Board decides they have the option of
not going through with the second reading of the Ordinance and then starting
over with the Town or County.
Jerry Wood/Otis Development Company, made the presentation. Representing
Nottingham Associates. He stated that they submitted a petition for
annexation and would like the land to be zoned SPA.
Nottingham Associates currently owns about 13 acres located between the
Rio Grande Right of Way and the Eagle River, and to the east of Avon Road.
The Town Council has already approved the petition to annex at the first
reading. Asking that the Design Review Board recommend to the Town Council
that the piece of land be zoned SPA. Not asking for ? definitive comment
on the Conceptual plan although would appreciate any informal comments the
Board may have.
Basically, they are proposing for the project 66 townhouse units located along
the river bank (clusters) A larger structure has 47 condo-apts and 20 hotel
rooms. There are several amenity areas througho,it. One is located at the
entrance of the project which includes a tennis cuurt, swimming pool, jacuzzi.
There is a proposed gatehouse at the entry of the subdivision. Also proposing
to improve the river frontage as a landscaped, unbuilt area. The only actual
construction will be to the existing water wheel to be remodeled. Other
amenities will include a health club facility and conference facility.
Bill asked if the propert, is alr_c dy annexa _o the Tcwn end does te Poerd
have the right to review this. Terrill stated that it is not already annexed.
Whatever the Board decides would not be binding unless they were actually
annexed. This does give flexibility to the applicant.
Bill stated that he is concerned with the Town and the County playing against
each other.
Terrill feels it is better for the Board to see the plan and what is going on.
Jerry stated he didn't feel that it is fair to the applicant to come in and
request zoning and once they are annexed, they may not get the density they
originally wanted.
Bill asked how binding the Board's decision would be.Supposing the Board
changes their mind at a later date.
Terrill - It is like any conceptual review. It depends on what the Town
Council adopts with this particular zoning of SPA and annexes the property
it would be as any other piece of property that comes in. Conceptual plan
is merely that. Conceptual review is no way binding. The Board only makes
comments.
Mike commented that it is apprnor'ate and acceptable from the Town's viewpoint
to annex the property rather than have such a development occur adjacent to
the Town and be in the County. It would be to the Town's advantage to be in
the Town. Would feel more comfortable reviewing it as a potential addition
to the Town rather than reviewing it and having it stay in the County. Feels
it is appropriate to review a conceptual design to give some guidelines and
guidance along with the review and recommendation to the Town Council on the
annexation and zoning application.
Jim Wells - Annexation has already started. Second reading will be on
January 12, 1982. Council is concerned with them maybe going to the County.
If applicant doesn't like what the Board decides they have the option of
not going through with the second reading of the Ordinance and then starting
over with the Town or County.
Jerry Wood/Otis Development Company, made the presentation. Representing
Nottingham Associates. He stated that they submitted a petition for
annexation and would like the land to be zoned SPA.
Nottingham Associates currently owns about 13 acres located between the
Rio Grande Right of Way and the Eagle River and to the east of Avon Road.
The Town Council has already approved the petition to annex at the first
reading. Asking that the Design Revie,i Board recommend to the Town Council
that the piece of land be zoned SPA. Not asking for a definitive comment
on the Conceptual plan although would appreciate any informal comments the
Board may have.
Basically, they are proposing for the project 66 townhouse units located along
the river bank (;lusters) A larger structure has 47 condo-apts and 20 hotel
rooms. There are several amenity areas throughout. One is located at the
entrance of the project which includes a tennis court, swimming pool. jacuzzi.
There is a proposed gatehouse at the entry of the subdivision. Also, proposing
to improve the river frontage as a landscaped, unbuilt area. The only actual
construction will be to the existing water wheel to be remodeled. Other
amenities will include a health club facility and conference facility.
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There is approximately 12.86 acres total included on the site. Overall
density will be less than 10 units per acre.
Bill asked how much of the acreage is in the river and also how much
is steep embankment down to the river. Jerry Wood stated that the property
stops at the river edge, and none of the acreage is in the river. They
have not done a detailed slope analysis on the property but preliminary
means says none of the property is over 40 percent. There is a portion
of the bank that is owned by Bill Nottingham that is in excess of 40 percent.
The height of the building is going to be about six stories. Ground level
will have common facilites, 3 levels of 2 bedroom and 1 bedroom efficiency
units with hotel units on the same level. One level will have some two-
story units. There will not be any accommodation units on the ground
level. No views will be blocked. Basically the building is on a platform
or plateau. All units will face the south. North wall will be solid.
The building will have a pyramid shape look to it and the wall behind
it will also. There will be no retail space.
Bob aked about the impact of Avon Road and Avon Station in the future.
Jerry W. said they have talked with KKBNA and Norm Wood and they have
developed an intersection design, which they are still working on.
Bob asked if Bill Nottingham's property was going to be a part of this.
At the present time they are negotiating with Bill Nottingham in the
purchase of this property and hopefully this will be completed soon.
Intent will then be to file for annexation and incorporate the property
into the Town. They will then ask for more units.
There are 266 parking spaces. There will be one covered car space and
one open space for each one of the units.
Norm commented on the two lots at the east end of the track, there is a
problem with access to the lots. Site grading and drainage can be worked
out at later stages of development. One of the houses may be in a major
drainage way. Highway Departrent will handle the access onto Avon Road.
Feels they should have a left turn lane from the site also. Some of the
landscape plantings could be a problem. In the legal description the
numbers were transposed. Should read 662,497 square feet or 15.208 acres.
Mike commented that this conceptual plan has been reviewed by the Avon
Metro District. Their primary concern was the av,.ilibility of water. The
District has concurred with i`,. One concern was the location and utilization
of the Metcalf irrigation ditch which is part of the district water supply,
that travels through the proeprty. This will have to be part of the site
development plan when it comes through and will have to be considered by
the Board.
Jerry W. stated trey have discussed this with the Water Board and the intent
would be to move the ditch to the northside of the property with the idea
that would upslope from any construction going on withany filtration problems
or runoff related to construction. If something was to happen to the temporary
drainage retention basin system that will be provided during construction, no
runoff will ever end up in Metcalf ditch. The exact details and alignment
haven't been worked out yet but this is how it works.
There is a main electric line that runs across the property which needs an
easement. They are negotiating with Holy Cross. There is no easement there
now, still trying to decide what to do.
Terrill felt the Board should look at Master Plan issues. The Board should
look at how this property will affect the Town and what the most appropriate
use and density would be for the property. The river should be considered
a part of the Town. He commented that if the applicant is interested, it
might be a good idea to have a small easement along the river for public access.
Bill commented that he felt the Town Center is where the high density should
be. Suggested maybe coming up with a way to conned the Town with this
property. Muyhe a crossover, so people won't have to drive their cars to qet
The height of the building is going to be about six stories. Ground level
will have common facilites, 3 levels of 2 bedroom and 1 bedroom efficiency
units with hotel units on the same level. One level will have some two-
story units. There will not be any accommodation units on the ground
level. No views will be blocked. Basically the building is on a platform
or plateau. All units will face the south. North wall will be solid.
The building will ha,.e a pyramid shape look to it and the wall behind
it will also. There will be no retail space.
Bob aked about the impact of Avon Road and Avon Station in the future.
Jerry W. said they have talked with KKBNA and Norm Wood and they have
deve,oped an intersection design, which they are still workinj on.
Bob asked if Bill Nottingham's property was going to be a part of this.
At the present time they are negotiating with Bill Nottingham in the
purchase of this property and hopefully this will be completed soon.
Intent will then be to file for annexation and incorporate the property
into the Town. They will then ask for more units.
r There are 266 parking spaces. There will be one covered car space and
one open space for each one of the units.
Norm commented on the two lots at the east end of the track, there is a
problem with access to the lots. Site grading and drainage can be worked
out at later stages of development. One of the houses may be in a major
drainage way. Highway Department will handle the access onto Avon Road.
Feels they should have a left turn lane from the site also. Some of the
landscape plantings could be a problem. In the legal description the
numbers were transposed. Should read 662,497 square feet or 15.203 acres.
Mike commented that this conceptual plan has been reviewed by the Avon
Metro District. Their primary concern was the availibility of water. The
District has concurred with it. One concern was the location and utilization
of the Metcalf irrigation ditch which is part of the district water supply,
that travels through the proeprty. This will have to be part of the site
development plan when it comes through and will have to be considered by
the Board.
Jerry W. stated they have discussed this with the Water Board and the intent
would be to move the ditch to the northside of the property with the idea
that would upslope from any construction going on wi�:,any filtration problems
or runoff related to construction. If something was to happen to the temporary
drainage retention basin system that will be provided during construction, no
runoff will ever end up in Metcalf ditch. The exact details and alignment
haven't been worked out yet but this is how it works.
There is a main electric line that runs across the property which needs an
easement. They are negotiating with Holy Cross. There is no easement there
now, still trying to decide what to do.
Terrill felt the Board should look at Master Plan issues. The Board should
look at how this property will affect the Town and what the most appropriate
use and density would be for the property. The rive;- should be considered
a part of the Town. He commented that if the applicant is interested, it
might be a good idea to have a small easement along the river for public access.
Bill commented that he felt the Town Center is where the high density should
be. Suggested maybe coming up with a way to connect the Town with this
property. Maybe a crossover, so people won't have to drive their cars to get
into Town.
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Terrill stated there is a new development coming up east of this proposed
project. (Eagle Bend). Jerry Wood stated there is an agreement to
® provide emergency vehicleaccess to and from Eagle Bend. In terms of traffic,
it would more than likely become a shortcut for traffic from Eagle Bend to
Avon. They would like to discourage it from becoming a public road for
vehicles other than emergency type. Bill commented that this access may help
out with the traffic problems at Avon Road and Highway 6 intersection.
Mike - There are some steep banks towards the river and at the rivers edge
that will have to be considered in a more detailed and specific site plan.
As far as use of the land - not sure what the best use would be. Would
prefer to not seeing a lot of commercial for that land. Shape of the
building appears to be appropriate based on what has been present -d.
Jerry D. - height of the building may be a problem to some people. Suggested
that some type of easement be grunted to the Town for improvement of the
river bank. Access to the east is important due to the possibility of
annexation of property in the future. Should check into making this a public
street. As a conceptual plan, it fits well. Hopes the quality of units is good.
Terrill stated that the letter from Petre & Zimmerman, regarding Nottingham
Ranch Company, should be put into the minutes. (dated 1/4/82)
"Nottingham Ranch Company has received your Notice of the hearing on
the proposed zone change for Nottingham Associates to be held on Jan. 6, 1982.
Nottingham Ranch Co. does not object to the zone change, but it should be
understood that Nottingham Associates do not have legal access through the
property owned by Nottingham Ranch Co. westerly of the property to be
rezoned known as the Stockyard Property. We have been in the process of
negotiating for such an access, but these negotiations have not been completed.
Signed, George Petre."
Jim Wells stated that the County would not approve the Eagle Bend Development
unless they had some type of evidence providing emergency access to the west.
Terrill stated that if there is a typical accELs easement then that could
allow certain uses but not necessarily dedicated as public roads.
Members of the Town Council understood this was to be a private road because
the developer would like to maintain it and specifically exclude the people
from traveling through the project. The Town didn't have a problem with this
because it would be a road they don't have to maintain.
Tommy - concerned with the parking. Steep banks are also important. Needs
to see the actual layout. No problem with the height of the building.
Bob - felt the density is too high. Afraid of the impact on Avon Road.
Bill - concerned with the parking arrangement. Cars backing out of spaces
onto roadway could be a problem. Basic concept of site is good.
Terrill stated that this is a zoning issue and the DRB needs to make a formal
motion advising the Council of their decision.
Mike made a motion that the Design Review Board recommend to the Town Council
that the area be annexed to the Town and should it be annexed into the Town,
that the zoning as requested be granted and also all the comments made on
the proposed site development be submitted to the Town Council as well as the
applicant. Motion was seconded by Tonuny, passed unanimously.
Jim Wells asked if something in detail could be passed on to the Council.
Recording Secretary is to notify the Council of the DRB's recommendation
and comments.
:hat will have to be considered in a more detailed and specific site plan.
As far as use of the land - not sure what the best use would be. Would
prefer to not see -;ng a lot of commercial for that land. Shape of the
building appears to be appropriate based on what has been presented.
Jerry D. - height of the building may be a problem to some people. Suggested
that some type of easement be granted to the Town for improvement of the
river bank. Access to the east is important due to the possibility of
annexation of property in the future. Should check into making this a public
street. As a conceptual plan, it fits well. Hopes the quality of units is good.
Terrill stated that the letter from Petre & Zimmerman, regarding Nottingham
Ranch Company, should be put into the minutes. (dated 1/4/82)
• "Nottingham Ranch Company has received your Notice of the hearing on
the proposed zone change for Nottingham Associates to be held on Jan. 6, 1982.
Nottingham Ranch Co. does not object to the zone change, but it should be
understood that Nottingham Associates do not have legal access through the
property owned by Nottingham Ranch Co. westerly of the property to be
rezoned known as the Stockyard Property. We have been in the process of
negotiating for such an access, but these negotiations have not been completed.
Signed, George Petre."
Jim Wells stated that the County would not approve the Eagle Bend Development
unless they had some type of evidence providing emergency access to the west.
Terrill stated that if there is a typical access easement then that could
allow certain uses but not necessarily dedicated as public roads.
Members of the Town Council understood this was to be a private road because
the developer would like to maintain it and specifically exclude the people
from traveling through the project. The Town didn't have a problem with this
because it would be a road they don't have to maintain.
Tommy - concerned with the parking. Steep banks are also important. Needs
to see the actual layout. No problem with the height of the building.
Bob - felt the density is too hich. Afraid of the impact on Avon Road.
Bill - concerned with the parking arrangement. Cars backing out of spaces
onto roadway could be a problem. Basic concept of site is good.
Terrill stated that this is a zoning issue and the DRB needs to make a formal
motion advising the Council of their decision.
Mike made a motion that the Design Review Board recommend to the Town Council
that the area be annexed to the Town and should it be annexed into the Town,
that the zoning as requested be granted and also all the comments made on
the proposed site development be submitted to the Town Council as well as the
applicant. Motion was seconded by Tommy, passed unanimously.
Jim Wells asked if something in detail could be gassed on to the Council.
Recording Secretary is to notify the Council of the DRB's recommendation
and comments.
M
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No. 4, Bruen Four Plex, Final Approval
vision, File No. 82-1-3.
Rick Bolduc of Mountain High Enterprises made the presentation. Requesting
final approval for this 4 plex. This is a highly visible lot, triangular
in shape. It has two entrances. Basically it is two duplexes separated
by a concrete wall. The units proposed are 3 bedroom, 3 bath, 1500 square
feet in size. Feels they have met all the requirements and are asking
for final.
Terrill stated this does conform with the zoning. Major zoning issues
have been met.
Norm - driveways are shown as gravel. Needs requirements. There are some
unusual contour lines shown. Grading plan does need a little more work.
Needs drainage away from the driveways.
Bill commented that the roof is supposed to be either cedar shake or sod.
Not tar and gravel. This doesn't mean that the Board can't approve it
but it would be a waste of the applicants time.
Building materials will be 1 x 6 cedar t & g. Roof is flat shaped to keep
from blocking the view.
Jerry stated he didn't like the flat top roof because it is not very good
for snow removal. Mike felt that the appearance of the building could be
improved if it had eaves on it rather than flat sided roofs. The use of
gravel driveways is not practical for snow plowing and it does create dust.
The gravel will more than likely end up in the drainage ditch or roadway.
Bill asked about the trash storage and if it is required that they be
out on the street. Rick commented that they are not providing any turnaround
space for large trucks. Larry Goad suggested maybe each unit should have
a trash compactor installed.
Rick asked the Board to table this matter until further notice. The
Board Members agreed.
Other Business:
Terrill suggested that the Zoning Committee get together soon. Jim W.
said chat he is a member of that committee and they've been waiting for
the Town Attorney to give them a new draft of the changes. Terrill said
that he would contact the members and set up a time for a meeting.
Jerry made a motion to approved the Minutes of 12/16/81. Motion was
seconded by Mike, passed unanimously.
There being no further business to discuss, Mike made a motion to adjourn
the meeting. Seconded by Tommy, passed unanimously. Meeting adjourned
at 10:55 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by:
IdV Cunftni ngs
irding Secretary
gn Review Board