PZC Minutes 061782i
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
MINUTES OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD MEETING
JUNE 17, 1982, 7:30 P. M.
The regular meeting of the Design Review Board of Avon was held on June 17,
1982, at 7:30 p.m. in the Town Council Chambers of the Town of Avon Municipal
Complex, 400 Benchmark Road, Avon, Colorado. The meeting was called to order
by Chairman Bill Pierce.
Lat the record show that members present were: Bob Zeeb, Cheryl Dingwell, Tommy
Landauer, Bill Pierce, Mike Blair. Members Jerry Davis & Jim Meehan were not
present. Staff Members present were: Terrill Knight, Art Abplanalp, Norman Wood
and Dick Evans.
No. 4, Christie Lodge, Sign for East End of Building, Lot 25_L Block 2,
Doug Mayes of Western States Management Company made the presentation. He
requested approval to use his twelve (12) square feet of sign area allocated
to him for his Western States Management Company sign to be used for the east
end of the Christie Lodge. The sign will read CHRISTIE LODGE only. The letters
will be a maximum of 15 inches.
Terrill stated the sign is within the regulations and appears to be acceptable
for a multiple business lot sign.
Doug stated that the sign will be on the east wall about three (3) feet from the
top of the building. It will be indirectly lit by a spotlight. The sign will
be the same as on the west end except there will not be a logo or the word "the"
Cheryl motioned to approve the sign application for the Christie Lodge sign to
be located on the east end of the building. Motion was seconded by Bob.
Terrill stated that for the record Doug Mayes should submit a completed drawing
to the Building Department showing the exact location and size of the sign.
Doug agreed to bring this in to Dick Evans. Motion was passed uanaimously.
No. 1, Nottinqham Station "Stockyard Prooerty" Zoninq Designation
Jerry Wood of Otis Development Company made the presentation. Requesting that
this parcel of land (1.6 acres) ba zoned PHDC rather than SPA.
Terrill stated that the required public notices was asking for SPA & SPG zoning.
The applicant cannot change the request for zoning without the proper notice.
SPA is extremely different from RHDC. Feels this matter cannot be discussed
without the proper notice.
Jerry Wood stated they would be willing to go through the notification procedure
again.
Terrill stated that the SPA zone has more flexibility with design. The RHDC might
be a mistake for this parcel due to the location and the need of turning lanes,
improvements to the bridge, traffic control.
Jerry Wood stated that the RHDC zone request was a requirement that was made by
the lender and the seller of the land.
Terrill stated that the regulation allows for a provision which may be of some
benefit called Recordation of Waiver of District Regulations, which basically
says in any zone, regardless of the uses by right or other standards, if the
applicant agrees voluntarily to waive certain rights, there is a way that can be
accomplished. Ile suggested that tic proper notice be sent out and that the
1982, at 7:30 p.m. in the Town Council Chambcrs ,f the Town Of Avon Mu,icipal
Complex, 400 Benchmark Road, Avon, Colorado. The meeting was called to order
by Chairman Bill Pierce.
Let the record show that members present were: Bob Zeeb, Cheryl Dingwell, Tommy
Landauer, Bill Pierce, Mike Blair. Members Jerry Davis & Jim Meehan were not
present. Staff Members present were: Terrill Knight, Art Abplanalp, Norman Wood
and Dick Evans.
4, Christie Lodge, Sign for East End of Building,_Lot 25, B1
Subdivision, File No. 82-6-7.
Doug Mayes of Western States Management Company made the presentation. He
requested approval to use his twelve (12) square feet of sign area allocated
to him for his Western States Management Company sign to be used for the east
end of the Christie Lodge. The sign will read CHRISTIE LODGE only. The letters
will be a maximum of 15 inches.
Terrill stated the sign is within the regulations and appears to be acceptable
for a multiple business lot sign.
Doug stated that the sign will be on the east wall about three (3) feet from the
top of the building. It will be indirectly lit by a spotlight. The sign will
be the same as on the west end except there will not be a logo or the word "the"
Cheryl motioned to approve the sign application for the Christie Lodge sign to
be located on the east end of the building. Motion was seconded by Bob.
Terrill stated that for the record Doug Mayes should submit a completed drawing
to the Building Department showing the exact location and size of the sign.
Doug agreed to bring this in to Dick Evans. Motion was passed uanaimously.
Item No. 1, Nottin habl
m Station "Stockyard Property" ZoningDesignation,
File No. 82-6-1. Puic Hearing tabled from 6/3/82 meeting).
Jerry Wood of Otis Development Company made the presentation. Requesting that
this parcel of land (1.6 acres) be zoned RHDC rather than SPA.
Terrill stated that the required public notices was asking for SPA & SPG zoning.
The applicant cannot change the request for zoning without the proper notice.
SPA is extremely different from RHDC. Feels this matter cannot be discussed
without the proper notice.
Jerry Wood stated they would be willing to go through the notification procedure
again.
Terrill stated that the SPA zone has more flexibility with design. The RHDC might
be a mistake for this parcel due to the location and the need of turning lanes,
improvements to the bridge, traffic control.
Jerry 'good stated that the RHDC zone request was a requirement that was made by
the lender and the seller of the land.
Terrill stated that the regulation allows for a provision which may be of some
benefit called Recordation of Waiver of District Regulations, which basically
says in any zone, regardless of the uses by right or other standards, if the
applicant agrees voluntarily to waive certain rights, there is a way that can be
accomplished. He suggested that the proper notice be sent out and that the
applicant meet with Art Ahplanalp and himself, to discuss this matter.
Bill Pierce stated that the entire piece of property should be looked at
carefully. He doesn't feel that a commercial use would be proper for the site.
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(Nottingham Station Cont'd.)
He suggested that if RHDC is granted that it be required to be reviewed with
the rest of the SPA as a single project.
Let the record show that the applicant requested a change to his application
and that application was a required Public Notice and this matter is being
continued until the application is re -submitted in theform the applican` chooses.
Item No. 2. Avon Center Phase 2. Exterior Chanae (CanoDv). Lot B. Block 2
Nick Dalba made the presentation to discuss the types of materials to be used
in the design of the canopy. Materials will be stucco and metal roofing, same
as the rest of the building. There was a question at the last meeting about
the location of the columns. Jerry Davis had suggested that maybe they move
the columns 18 inches back and cantilever the roof. Nick stated they would
rather use the original design because it looks better and the construction
is better.
Dick Evans stated that the canopy takes up approximately 3,000 square F, -et
which adds to the footprint of the building. The drawing indicates that the
encroachment into the s+back is more than 20 feet (about 21 feet).
Bill stated that the drawing should be what is approved. The minutes of the
6/3/82 meeting stated that the encroachment was 20 feet. Nick stated to
make it easier they could live with the twenty foot encroachment.
The majority of the Board felt that the columns on the outside would be better.
Terrill stated that the lot coverage should also be discussed.
Nick explained that they are allowed on 6.56 acres 142,000 feet of coverage.
Because it is a four phase project they have had agreements teat the towers
would always remain the same way with the flexibility to alter the commerical area
and the parking. On the plat he presented to show where the canopy would be in
'_he second phase, it also showed the third and fourth phases of the project.
Dick measured up the plat and it ran them over 26,000 feet as faras the coverage
on the lot. The answer to that is to adjust in the third phase and eliminate
the footage to be sure they are in compliance. Nick talked with his architect
and they have a scheme on the third and fourth phases that brings them into
139,000 feet so they will be 3,000 feet under the coverage. Nick stated that
they have the flexibility throughout the whole lot so they have to eliminate
some commercial on the third phase so they don'tcover more than the 142,000 feet.
The lots have been re -subdivided into 3 lots (A B & C). Phase 2 takes up an
entire lot.
Terrill stated that if they decided to sell the third lot the other owner would
be able to go up to the maximum. He felt the Board would need a separate
agreement limiting the third lot based on the overall plan. The Board can give
an approval with a condition that Art & Nick come up with an agreement to restrict
the remaining lot for lot coverage and building area. Art added that these
buildinqs come back in for Design Review approval before construction because
the addition of this additional footprint requires the modification of the later
footprint so it all fits together.
Cheryl made a motion to approve the application submitted by Avon Center for
the addition of the canopy on the exterior for Phase 2, the pillars on the
outside of the canopy and with the conditions that the remaining lot is
restricted based on the lot coverage and also that the agreement be entered
into as far as limiting the use of Phases 3 & 4 decreasing the size to be on
it if they were sold to other parties.
Terrill added that it should be an agreement to restrict the third lot so that
the project in total would meet the building area and lot coverage requirements.
Cheryl accepted that as an amendment to her motion.
Bill clarifier' the motion to be that the Design Review Board isgiving approval
Item No. r:, F enter Phase 2
Be�mark Sul ;sion, FT No.
Lot B, Block 2
Nick Dalba me, the presentation to discuss the types of materials to be used
in the desigi r; the canopy. Materials will be stucco and metal roofing, same
as the rest of the building. There was a question at the last meeting about
the location of the columns. Jerry Davis had suggested that maybe they move
the col-mns 18 inches back and cantilever the roof. Nick stated they would
rathe use the original design because it looks better and the construction
is better.
Dick Evans stated that the canopy takes up approximately 3,000 square feet
which adds to the footprint of the building. The drawing indicates that the
encroachment into the setback is more than 20 feet (about 21 feet).
Bill stated that the drawing should be what is approved. The minutes of the
6/3/82 meeting stated that the encroachment was 20 feet. Nick stated to
make it easier they could live with the twenty foot encroachment.
The majority of the Board felt that the columns on the outside would be better.
Terrill stated that the lot coverage should also be discussed.
Nick explained that they are allowed on 6.56 acres 142,000 feet of coverage.
Because it is a four phase project they have had agreements that the towers
would always remain the same way with the flexibility to alter the commerical area
and the parking. On the plat he presented to show where the canopy would be in
the second phase, it also showed the third and fourth phases of the project.
Dick measured up the plat and it ran them over 26,000 feet as far as the coverage
on the lot. The answer to that is to adjust in the third phase and eliminate
the footage to be sure they are in compliance. Nick talked with his architect
and they have a scheme on the third and fourth phases that brings them into
139,000 feet so they will be 3,000 feet under the coverage. Nick stated that
they have the flexibility throughout the whole lot so they have to eliminate
some commercial on the third phase so they don'tcover more than the 142,000 feet.
The lots have been re -subdivided into 3 lots (A B & C). Phase 2 takes up an
entire lot.
Terrill stated that if they decided to sell the third lot the other owner would
be able to go up to the maximum. He felt the Board would need a separate
agreement limiting the third lot based on the overall plan. The Board can give
an approval with a condition that Art & Nick come up with an agreement to restrict
the remaining lot for lot coverage and building area. Art added that these
buildings come back in for Design Review approval before construction because
the addition of this additional footprint requires the modification of the later
footprint so it all fits together.
Cheryl made a motion to approve the application submitted by Avon Center for
the addition of the canopy on the exte-ior for Phase 2, the pillars on the
outside of the canopy and with the conditions t1.3t the remaining lot is
restricted based on the lot coverage and also that the agreement be entered
into as far as limiting the use of Phases 3 & 4 decreasing the size to be on
it if they were sold to other partie!.
Terrill added that it should be aii agreement to restrict the third lot so that
the project in total would meet the building area and lot coverage requirements.
Cheryl accepted that as an amendment to her motion.
Bill clarified the motion to be that the Design Review Board isgiving approval
to the canopy with the supports on the outside edge, and with the condition
that the developer and the town come to an agreement on restricting the
development of the future buildings to not exceed the allowable site coverage
on the total projects Lots A, B & C, and that those changes do come back on
the footprint.
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(Avon Center Cz r, Cont'd)
Cheryl agreed. Motion was seconded by Tommy.
Don Buick asked if the 3,000 feet of canopy was included in the 142,000 feet?
Dick Evans answered yes.
Nick asked if the porches were considered as coverage? It was suggested that
that matter be discussed with Terrill.
Motion was carried with une abstaining vote.
Discussion of Flags: Nick stated they were originally approved for 15 flagpoles.
They eliminated two which brought the total to 13. They marked out the area
where they wanted 5 flags and the people installing the poles put in 6. They
immediately contacted Dick Blodgett and explained what happened. Dick Blodgett
told them to send a letter to the Design Review Board and if they requested
that the flagpole be taken out then it was to be done. It is not an Avon
Center flag. It is the flag of Italy.
The Board had no problem with the extra flag. Terrill stated that should be
put in the record as an amendment to the number of flags allowed.
Item No. 5, "Goldsworth-Law" Duplex, Final Approval, Lot 36, Block
Subdivision, File No. 82-6-6.
Dan Krening made the presentation. At the last meeting the Board was concerned
with the "mirror image".
Terrill stated it appears to conform with the zoning regulation.
Norm stated that the topographic site plan didn't indicate the 6'-8' roadway
cut at the entrance location. As a result the driveway grading will probably
require some modification to match the existing grades. The driveway into the
east unit should be enlarged to allow room for turning around so cars won't
have to back into the street. The landscape plan didn't show the size of
inaterials to be planted. He didn't feel these were serious problems but they
should be given consideration if approval is granted.
Dan stated that the exterior materials will be cedar shake roof, rough cedar
siding with a clear seal finish, windows to be Pella -Clad with a bronze trim,
and the stone will be moss rock.
Bill suggested adding more Aspens (a total of 18 to be 1',"-2" in diameter).
Also 4 Colorado Blue Spruce 4'-6' in height and 4 6'-8' in height.
Tommy made a motion to approve the "Goldsworth-Law Duplex" conditioned upon
meeting the Town Engineer's specifications on driveway grades, also the turnaround
for the driveway to be so that the cars don't have to back into the street, and
also to increase the number of landscape items on the plan. Motion was seconded
by Bob. (Bill added that if the driveway does change significantly, then it
does need to come back to the Board). Motion was passed unanimously.
]tem No. 6, Christie Lodge Trash_ Enclosure, Lot 25, Block 2, Benchmark
Subdivision, File No. 82-6-9.
Liz Boseman of Jack Miller 8 Associates made the pr:sentation for U S Home
Corporation. Requesting approval for the addition of a new trash compactor.
The existing compactor doesn't have good access. The new compactor will be
located at the east end of the parking structure. The size is approximately
14' x 26'. The fence will be 9' high and cedar.
Dick Evans stated that the Fire Department had no problem with the new
location of the compactor except that they will need to maintain an egress/
ingress alongside it to the east. They will be required to provide a sidewalk
so people can get out.
Motion was carried with one abstaining vote.
Discussion of Flags: Nick stated they were originally approved for 15 flagpoles.
They eliminated two which brought the total to 13. They marked out the area
where they wanted 5 flags and the people installing the poles put in 6. They
immediately contacted Dick Blodgett and explained what happened. Dick Blodgett
told them to send a letter to the Design Review Board and if they requested
that the flagpole be taken out then it was to be done. It is not an Avon
Center flag. It is the flag of Italy.
The Board had no problem with the extra flag. Terrill stated that should be
put in the record as an amendment to the number of flags allowed.
Item No. 5, "Goldsworth-Law"
Subdivision, File No. 82-6-6
Dan Krening made the presentation
with the "mirror image".
Final ADDroval. Lot 36. B1
At the last meeting the Board was concerned
Terrill stated it appears to conform with the zoning regulation.
Norm stated that the topographic site plan didn't indicate the 6'-8' roadway
cut at the entrance location. As a result the driveway grading will probably
require some modification to match the existing grades. The driveway into the
east unit should be enlarged to allow room for turning around so cars won't
have to back into the street. The landscape plan didn't show the size of
materials to be planted. He didn't feel these were serious problems but they
should be given consideration if approval is granted.
Dan stated that the exterior materials will be cedar shake roof, rough cedar
siding with a clear seal finish, windows to be Pella -Clad with a bronze trim,
and the stone will be moss rock.
Bill suggested adding more Aspens (a total of 18 to be 1;"-2" in diameter).
Also 4 Colorado Blue Spruce 4'-6' in height and 4 6'-8' in height.
Tommy made a motion to approve the "Goldsworth-Law Duplex" conditioned upon
meeting the Town Engineer's specifications on driveway grades, also the turnaround
for the drivaway to be so that the cars don't have to back into the street, and
also to increase the number of landscape items on the plan. Motion was seconded
by Bob. (Bill added that if the driveway does change significantly, then it
does need to come back to the Board). Motion was passed unanimously.
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ubdivision
Trash Encl
Block 2, Benchmark
Liz Boseman of Jack Miller & Associates made the presentation for U S Home
Corporation. Requesting approval for the addition of a new trash compactor.
The existing compactor doesn't have good access. The new compactor will be
located at the east end of the parking structure. The size is approximately
14' x 26'. The fence will be 9' high and cedar.
Dick Evans stated that the Fire Department had no problem with the new
location of the compa:tor except that they will need to maintain an egress/
ingress alongside it to the east. They will be required to provide a sidewalk
so people can get out.
Mike stated that any approval of the trash enclosure would be subject to review
by the Homeowners Association.
Mike motioned to approve the design as submitted but that this approval be
transmitted to the Homeowners Association for their review and comment and
should there be any objections that those objections and the application be
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(Christie Lodge Trash Enclosure Cont'd)
brought back to the Design Review Board to be effective July 1, 1982.
Motion was seconded by Tommy and was passed unanimously. (to be final
on July 1, 1982 unless there is an objection from the Homeowners Association,
which will ther. need to be brought back to the Board).
Item No. 7 Las Mananitas Restaurant Patio Addition Lot 25, Block 2
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Liz Boseman of Jack Miller & Associates made the presentation for Las Mananitas.
Proposing a deck addition to the restaurant which is approximately 10' x 32' in
size. It will be used during the summer months only. It will seat about 20
people. Also would like to add some concrete steps so that people don't have
to crawl over the wall or walk so far. The deck will cover and align with the
flower box that is presently there now. There will also be a 3'6" railing
around the patio.
Terrill stated that this addition would require 6 additional parking spaces.
Liz stated that at the next Design Review Board meeting (7-1-82) they were going
to be applying for a variance to decrease the size of the spaces in the parking
structure. This will allow for more parking spaces for the project.
Terrill commented that until the parking is settled that the Board may want to
approve this patio addition contingent upon satisfactory evidence of additional
parking spaces.
Larry K,umpost asked if the restaurant could take out the number of seats from
the inside of the restaurant and put them outside, until the parking can be
settled. The Board felt that would be a good idea and had no problem.
Dick Evans asked how the Building Department could issue a Building Permit
when the parking is not solved. The permit cannot be issued with contingencies.
Bob motioned to grant approval to Las Mananitas for their patio addition with
the conditions that if adequate parking is not shown then it has to be limited
to the number of seats in the restaurant now, or if it can be demonstrated to
the Building Department that there is adequate parking, then it be approved.
Motion was seconded by Cheryl and was carried with one abstaining vote.
Item No. 8, Sun Eaqle Duplex. Final Approval. Lot 37. Block 4
Al Ouellette made the presentation. He requested approval to build a
duplex which will be contemporary in style. They will be using Olympic
Stain #908 (sage) for the siding and will have a Cedar shake roof. They may
decide to change the siding color but not sure now.
Norm stated that the property map did not identify the lot and block, the
building setback lines were not shown, the driveway entrance is not in
accordance with Town standards and some of the slopes are extremely steep
and may not be stable enough. The problems could be taken care of without
coming back to the DRB.
Cheryl motioned to approve the Sun Eagle Duplex as submitted with the requirement
that the applicant meet with the Town Engineer and meet his requirements. Motion
was seconded by Bob. Tommy added that if the exterior siding changes color, then
it is to be brought back to the Board. Motion was passed unanimously.
The minutes were then read from the meeting of 6/3/82. The following correction
was made: Item No. 1, page 3 - to read... hereby is approved with the applicant
required to comply with the conditions in the supplement, unless otherwise
modified by the Council.
Bob motioned to approve the minutes of 6/3/82 with the above correction.
Seconded by Mike and passed unanimously.
Liz Boseman of Jack Miller & Associates made the presentation for Las Mananitas.
Proposing a deck addition to the restaurant which is approximately 10' x 32' in
size. It will be used during the summer months only. It will seat about 20
people. Also would like to add some concrete steps so that people don't have
to crawl over the wall or walk so far. The deck will cover and align with the
flower box that is presently there now. There will also be a 3'6" railing
around the patio.
Terrill stated that this addition would require 6 additional parking spaces.
Liz stated that at the next Design Review Board meeting (7-1-82) they were going
to be applying for a variance to decrease the size of the spaces in the parking
structure. This will allow for more parking spaces for the project.
Terrill commented that until the parking is settled that the Board may want to
approve this patio addition contingent upon satisfactory evidence of additional
parking spaces.
Larry Kumpost asked if the restaurant could take out the number of seats from
the inside of the restaurant and put them outside, until the parking can be
settled. The Board felt that would be a good idea and had no problem.
Dick Evans asked how the Building Department could issue a Building Permit
when the parking is not solved. The permit cannot be issued with contingencies.
Bob motioned to grant approval to Las Mananitas for their patio addition with
the conditions that if adequate parking is not shown then it has to be limited
to the number of seats in the restaurant now, or if it can be demonstrated to
the Building Department that there is adequate parking, then it be approved.
P:otion was seconded by Cheryl and was carried with one abstaining vote.
Item No. 8, Sun Ea le Du lex, Final Approval, Lot 37, Block 4, Wildridge
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Al Ouellette made the presentation. He requested approval to build a
duplex which will be contemporary in style. They will be using Olympic
Stain #908 (sage) for the siding and will have a Cedar shake roof. They may
decide to change the siding color but not sure now.
Norm stated that the property map did not identify the lot and block, the
building setback lines were not shown, the driveway entrance is not in
accordance with Town standards and some of the slopes are extremely steep
and may not be stable enough. The problems could be taken care of without
coming back to the DRB.
Cheryl motioned to approve the Sun Eagle Duplex as submitted with the requirement
that the applicant meet with the Town Engineer and meet his requirements. Motion
was seconded by Bob. Tommy added that if the exterior siding changes color, then
it is to be brought back to the Board. 'lotion was passed unanimously.
The minutes were then read from the meeting of 6/3/82. The following correction
was made: Item No. 1, page 3 - to read... hereby is approved with the applicant
required to comply with the conditions in the supplement, unless otherwise
modified by the Council.
Bob motioned to approve the minutes of 6/3/82 with the above correction.
Seconded by Mike and passed unanimously.
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Item No. 9, Lock -Off Units discussion by Staff and Members.
Terrill stated that this matter is to be discussed at the June 22, 1982
Work Session of the Town Council.
He explained that he tried to define what a lock -off units is and describe
what criteria should be used to make a decision. They are only allowed
in RHDC zone districts. Need to decide what the parking requirement should
be for each lock -off unit.
There will be further discussion at the 6/22/82 Work Session.
Amending the Design Review Board Fee Schedule:
The staff is to propose a new schedule and present it to the Board at the
next meeting.
On July 9, 1982, Friday night @ 5:00 p.m. the Board members are to meet and
tour the Town to see what projects they have approved.
There being no further business, Bob motioned to adjourn the meeting. Motion
was seconded by Mike and was passed unanimously.
Respectfully submitted by,
Melody Cummirly$ J
Recording Se etary
resign Review Board