PZC Minutes 101481RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
MINUTES OF DESIGN REVIEW BOARD MEETING
OCTOBER 14, 1981, 7:30 P. M.
The regular meeting which was schedule for October 7, 1981, was continued
until October 14, 1981 due to not having enough members present for a Quorum.
The meeting was held in the Town Council Chambers of the Town of Avon
Municipal Building, 400 Benchmark Road, Avon, Colorado. The meeting was
called to order by Mike Blair.
Board Members present were Bob Zeeb, Cheryl ')ingwell, Tommy Landauer, Mike
Blair, Ken Hardwick and new member Jerry Davis.
Bill Pierce was not present.
Mike opened the meeting by introducing the newest member to the Design Review
Board, Mr. Jerry Davis, to all other members and also to the audience.
t Company, Four-Plex - Final Approval, Lot 18
ion, File No. 81-10-1.
Gary Stev ns made the presentation. He is requesting final approval for
a four (41 plex.
The entryways will be brick. On the southside, which will have the view
of Beaver Creek, it will have a lot of glass. The siding will be redwood
with Olympic stain #717. The roof will be cedar shake. The brick will
be a light reddish -brown color.
On the landscaping plan it shows there will be ample parking. There will be
eleven (11) spaces (two (2) per unit is required).
There will be a total of 39 Aspens, 3 Blue Sprue. No landscaping was shown
on the plan for the patio areas, but Gary stated that he could put in some
Junipers or something if necessary. The remainder of the area will be sodded.
Terrill stated that it meets the zoning and Design Review standards. There
are some technical questions regarding the parl.ing.
Norm stated that one of the back units has about 26 feet from the property
line o the garage door. If someone has a full-size car that would take up
approximately 18 to 20 feet. Does not give enough room for access into that
particular garage. Normally 40 to 42 feet would be required.
Norm also noted that there is no site grading plan. One is needed to
evaluate drainage from the site.
The property is located just north of Avon Lake Villas. Dick stated that
there was no irrigation or sprinkler system shown on the plan. That is required.
Gary stated that he wanted to use either brick or wood on the northend of each
garage. The Board decided that they preferred brick to the wood, but he could
use either one. Bob mentioned that with the snow buildup, the brick would be
the best. Chimneys will be wood.
Mike stated that the Board does not have the grading and drainage plan and also
an irrigation plan as required to be submitted. If the staff would be willing to
review the plans submitted to them and if they meet the requirements of the
regulations and P,,erything is satisfactory for the lot and the surrounding areas,
The meeting was neld 7u Lne luwn GuunclI Lhwibers of the luw.1 U, ,.,i.
Municipal Building, 400 Benchmark Road, Avon, Colorado. The meeting was
called to order by Mike Blair.
Board Members present were Bob Zeeb, Cheryl Dingwell, Tommy Landauer, Mike
Blair, Ken Hardwick and new member Jerry Davis.
Bill Pierce was not present.
Mike opened the meeting by introducing the newest member to the Design Review
Board, Mr. Jerry Davis, to all other members and also to the audience.
Iteral #1, Stevens Development Company, Four-Plex - Final Approval, Lot 18,
Block 2.. Benchmark Subdivision. File No. 81-10-1.
Gary Stevens made the presentation. He is requesting final approval for
a four (4) plea.
The entryways will be brick. On the southside, which will have the view
of Beaver Creek, it will have a lot of glass. The siding will be redwood
with Olympic stain #717. The roof will be cedar shake. The brick will
be a light reddish -brown color.
On the landscaping pian it shows there will be ample parking. There will be
eleven (11) spaces (two (2) per unit is required).
There will be a total of 39 Aspens, 3 Blue Spruce. No landscaping was shown
on the plan for the patio areas, but Gary stated that he could put in some
Junipers or something if necessary. The remainder of the area will be sodded.
Terrill stated that it meets the zoning and Design Review standards. There
are some technical questions regarding the parking.
Norm stated that one of the back units has about 26 feet from the property
line to the garage door. If someone has a full-size car that would take up
approximately 18 to 20 feet. Does not give enough room for access into that
particular garage. Normally 40 to 42 feet would be required.
Norm also noted that there is no site grading plan. One is needed to
evaluate drainage from the site.
The property is located just north of Avon Lake Villas. Dick stated that
there was no irrigation or sprinkler system shown on the plan. That is required.
Gary stated that he wanted to use either brick or wood on the northend of each
garage. The Board aecided that they preferred brick to the wood, but he could
use either one. Bob mentioned that with the snow buildup, the brick would be
the best. Chimneys will be wood.
Mike stated that the Board does not have the grading and drainage plan and also
an irrigation plan as required to be submitted. If the staff would be willing to
review the plans submitted to them and if they meet the req,:;rements of the
regulations and everything is satisfactory for the lot and the surrounding areas,
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then the Board would approve of the plan on the condition that adequate
information be submitted to the staff and the staff can approve the plans.
One of the major reasons for allowing this conditional approval was because
the applicant was present for the October 7, 1981 mee ;nq which had to be
continued to October 14, 1981, due to not having enough members for a Quorum.
The Board granted approval for the project with the conditions that the
applicant submit his plan for grading, drainage and irrigation system to
the staff for their approval.
Item #2. Alpine Development Concepts, Six-Plex/Final ADDroval, Lot 7, Block 1
Laura Wydeveld made the presentation.
Requesting final approval for a six-plex project. She stated that this
project is identical to the same four-plex project which they submitted in
June 1981. She felt that this might help to refresh the Board Members memory
as to to the project would look like. (Brochures were passed out).
They will be using Olympic Stain #711 on the siding with a clear CWF sealer.
The stucco will be a Buff tan color. The roof will be cedar shake. She
stated that they had submitted an addendum which changes the clay tiles to
cedar shakes. Chimneys will be stucco also, with a Buff tan color.
Terrill stated that the project appears to conform with the zoning and Design
Review Board regulations.
Norm stated that a drainage study is required for a six-plex and there was not
one shown on the plans. it can be dealt with later.
Bob commented that they may have a difficult time getting Blue Spruce to grow
up there. Laura said that it was one of the types of trees suggested in the
Wildridge landscape book. She said that most of the l2ndscaping would be
"Rabbit bush". The grade of the driveway going up is about 5 percent.
Trash enclosure will be a three -sided type of enclosure.
It was suggested that the exterior look of tl:-2 building be changed to vary
f^om the other- two buildings. It was also recommended that some type of
lighting be mo, J closer to the entranceway of the driveway due to the
snow conditions for the winter.
Board decided to grant Conditional Approval for the project with the following
conditions: a drainage plan is to be submitted to the Town Engineer, exterior
changes be made in arrangement of the stucco materials and the wood siding
so that it will indicate a different appearance from the other two buildings
(must show exterior colors and finishes) and a light needs to be put at the
end of the driveway as it enters onto the public roadway.
Item #3, Benchmark Condominium Homeowners Association, Re -Roofing of Condos,
Lot 2, Block 2. Benchmark u ivision, File No. 81-10-3.
TysonSchaeffer made theiniumsntation. He represented Avon Management Services
for the
On May 15, 1981, the Board of Directors for the Benchmark Condominiums decided
to re -roof the four (4) condominium buildings. This was to take place in the
Spring of 1982. On August 31, 1981, a storm blew away almost the entire roof
on building D. Therefore the roof needed to be replaced as soon as possible.
Two (2) weeks later Dick Evans notified Avon Management Services that they would
have to stop work on the roofing because they had not received approval from
the Design Review Board and also they had not obtained the proper permit to do
the work. They were in violation of Ordinance No. 13, Series of 1981 and
also Ordinance No. 9, Series of (Uniform Ruildinq Code and Desiqn Review
the staff for their approval.
Item #2, Al ine Develo me it Concepts, Six-Plex/Final Approval, Lot 7, Block 1,
Wildri ge Su division, Tile No. 81.10-2.
Laura Wydeveld made the presentation.
Requesting final approval for a six-plex project. She stated that this
project is identical to the same four-plex project which they submitted in
June 1981. She felt that this might help to refresh the Board Members memory
as to to the project would look like. (Brochures were passed out).
They will be using Olympic Stain #711 on the siding with a clear CWF sealer.
The stucco will be a Buff tan color. The roof will be cedar shake. She
stated that they had submitted an addendum which changes the clay tiles to
cedar shakes. Chimneys will be stucco also, with a Buff tan color.
Terrill stated that the project appears to conform with the zoning and Design
Review Board regulations.
Norm stated that a drainage study is required for a six-plex and there was not
one shown on the plans. It can be dealt with later.
Bob commented that they may have a difficult time getting Blue Spruce to grow
up there. Laura said that it was one of the types of trees suggested in the
Wildridge landscape book. She said that most of the landscaping would be
"Rabbit bush". The grade of the driveway going up is about 5 percent.
Trash enclosure will be a three -sided type of enclosure.
It was suggested that the exterior look of the building be changed to vary
from the other two buildings. It was also recommended that some type of
lighting be moved closer to the entranceway of the driveway due to the
snow conditions for th<. winter.
Board decided to grant Conditional Approval for the project with the following
conditions: a drainage plan is to be submitted to the Town Engineer, exterior
changes be made in arrangement of the stucco materials and the wood siding
so that it will indicate a different appearance from the other two buildings
(must show exterior colors and finishes) and a light needs to be put at the
end of the driveway as it enters onto the public roadway.
Item #3, Benchmark Condominium Homeowners Association, Re -Roofing of Condos
Lot 2, Block 2, Benchmark Sub ivision, Fz a No. 81-10-3.
Vson Schaeffer made the presentation. He represented Avon Management Services
r the Benchmark Condominiums.
On May 15, 1981, the Board of Directors for the Benchmark Condominiums decided
to re -roof the four (4) condominium buildings. This was to take place in the
Spring of 1982. On August 31, 1981, a storm blew away almost the entire roof
on building D. Therefore the roof needed to be replaced as soon as possible.
Two (2) weeks later Dick Evans notified Avon Management Services that they would
have to stop work on the roofing because they had not received approval from
she Design Review Board and also they had not obtained the proper permit to do
the work. They were in violation of Ordinance No. 13, Series of 1981 and
also Ordinance No. 9, Series of 1978 (Uniform Building Code and Design Review
Board Rules Regulations and Procedures.)
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Tyson stated that they will be using Pro -Panel 2 roofing material (metal)
because of cost factors, fire code ratings, labor costs, etc. It is
guaranteed not to peel, crack, chip, etc., for five (5) years. It has a
thirty (30) percent gloss reflective rate. Approximately one-half of
building D has the roof already on it. They did not receive approval from
the Design Review Board or did they obtain the proper permit to do the work.
Bob commented that in his opinion it would not work aesthetically in that
particular part of town. With the mass of area of the four (4) buildings,
the reflection off the roofs would be too much (sunset & sunrise), he doesn't
feel that metal roofs would fit in with the rest of the buildings in the area.
Cheryl stated that she would like to see the roof as it is now.
One of the applicants (did not get his name) presented some pictures of
the roof material on the building. The pictures were taken from the interstate.
He stated that the sun was shining all around and he did not use any special
equipment. There was no glare at all.
Tommy stated that a metal roof is one of the best types to use, but it does
not fit that part of the town. Mass is too ni;.ch. Mike also agreed.
The consensus of the Board was that the metal roof is more practical but it
just does not fit the design of the rest of the surrounding area.
Tyson asked if they could submit to the Design Review Board for their approval,
three (3) cedar shake roofs to be put on in the Spring of 1982, and one (1)
metal roof now to avoid problems of too much metal on all the buildings, or
maybe have two (2) cedar and two (2) metal roofs. Mike said that they could
submit that to the Board. Tyson said he would likt to get a decision of some
type so they could proceed with getting the roof approved.
It was suggested by one of the applicants that they be allowed to do Building D
and B in metal and Buildings A and C in Cedar shake. It would help to break
up the mass of metal or shake.
(ommy stated that it would not be acceptable to have any type of metal. It
would not look right.
Mike asked if the Board would consider tabling this matter until the next
meeting.
Dick stated that if the building is not weather -tight then they would have
to vacate the building. They cannot have a habitable building without it
being weather -tight. If a decision is made, the management people are
committed to weather -tight that roof. After 8:00 A.M. on Thursday,
October 15, 1981, they cannot go on with the way the rr;,)f is. The building
will have to be vacated. The tar paper will be accepted on a temporary basis.
Gary Stevens who is a property owner near the condos, feels that the roof should
be all metal or all cedar shake. Should not be a combination of both. It
would look like a repair job. He stated that he personally preferred a shake
roof. He stated that he noticed the metal roof was there because he was
driving East on the interstate and saw the glare.
Bill Doyle stated that the old Code called for shake shingles in the Town.
He asked the management company what they are going to do for the inconvenience
of the people renting in the buildinq. Tyson said there would be a meeting
during the week and they will make some type of financial arrangements as far
as their rent is concerned.
The roofs on all the building will eventually need to be re -roofed.
Dick stated that they would have to conform to Type I FR shake roof which is a
fire retardant one hour roof.
Mikt stated that the Board does not agree with the metal roof because it would
be quite inconsistent with the design guidelines and also with building materials
in the surrounding areas wF•ich is primarily residential. The R�ard members were
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feel that metal roofs would fit in with the rest of the buildings in the area.
Cheryl stated that she would like to see the roof as it is now.
One of the applicants (did not get his name) presented some pictures of
the roof material on the building. The pictures were taken from the interstate.
He statee that the sun was shining all around and he did not use any special
equipment. There was no glare at all.
Tommy stated that a metal roof -is one of the best types to use, but it does
not fit that part of the town. Mass is too much. Mike also agreed.
The consensus of the Board was that the metal roof is more practical but it
just does not fit the design of the rest of the surrounding area.
Tyson asked if they could submit to the Design Review Board for their approval,
three (3) cedar shake roofs to be put on in the Spring of 1982, and one (1)
metal roof now to avoid Problems of too much metal on all the buildings, or
maybe have two (2) cedar and two (2) metal roofs. Mike said that they could
submit that to the Board. Tyson said he would like to get a decision of some
type so they could proceed with getting the roof approved.
It was suggested by one of the applicants that they be allowed to do Building D
and B in metal and Buildings A and C in Cedar shake. It would help to break
up the mass of metal or shake.
Tommy stated that it would not be acceptable to have any type of metal. It
would not look right.
Mike asked if the Board would consider tabling this matter until the next
meeting.
Dick stated that if the building is not weather-tight then they would have
to vacate the building. They cannot have a habitable building without it
being weather-tight. If a decision is made, the management people are
committed to weather-tight that roof. After 8:00 A.M. on Thursday,
October 15, 1981, they cannot go on with the way the roof is. The building
will have to be vacated. The �_ar paper will be accepted on a temporary basis.
Gary Stevens who is a property owner near the condos, `eels that the roof should
be all metal or all cedar shake. Should not be a combination of both. It
would look like a repair .job. He stated that he personally preferred a shake
roof. He stated that he noticed the metal roof was there because he was
driving East on the interstate and saw the glare.
Bill Doyle stated that the old Code called for shake shingles in the Town.
He asked the management company what they are going to do for the inconvenience
of the people renting in the building. Tyson said there would be a meeting
during the week and they will make some type of financial arrangements as far
as their rent is concerned.
The roofs on all the building will eventually need to be re-roofed.
Dick stated that they would have to conform to Type I FR shake roof which is a
fire retardant one hour roof.
Mike stated that the Board does not agree with the metal roof because it would
be quite inconsistent with the design guidelines and also with building materials
in the surrounding areas which is primarily residential. The B and members were
asked to continue this meeting so that each one could look at tie building
and the material that has been applied. Bob stated that he wanted to settle
the matter then.
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Mike noted that there was an urgency to get the roofing completed. He asked
Dick if it would be possible to let them go ahead with the metal on the one
roof and then remove it in 6 months to 1 yr. It would only be on a temporary
basis. Dick stated they should go one way or another.
Ken asked if they had the material on the job -site to finish the one building.
Tyson said they did, and it could be completed in about one day. Ken asked if
they would be agreeable to remove that roof in 6 months u, 1 year and replace
it with the cedar shake. Tyson stated that the Board of Directors would have
to agree with this.
Mike asked if the Board would consider that option. Bob stated that he felt
there ir� still enough good weather to put on a cedar roof. Cheryl stated that
if they were going to make a cedar roof the required type, then why should
the 3oard let them put on a metal roof and then take it off later. She also
stated that once a metal roof was put on, who would be responsible to seeing
that it was removed when the time limit is up?
Tybon stated that it would be up to the individual homeowners. He also said
that the metal roof has been paid for. A cedar roof would take 2 to 3 times
longer to put on. The metal roof could be completed in a day or so.
Tommy said it should be cedar and it probably wouldn't take more than
four (4) days to complete and be weather -tight. Ken and Mike agreed.
The Board's final decision was for the roof to be cedar shake. The applicant
was told that if he disagreed with this decision, then he could appeal it
to the Town Council.
The Recording Secretary was to send a letter to the Town Council informing
them of the Design Review Board's decision.
nt Condominiums, Final Approval for Six-Plex, Lot 8, Block 1.
Mark Rizan made the presentation. He was requesting final approval for a
six-plex project.
There will be a basement area which will consist of a basement, garage and
utility storage area. It will have three (3) stories which are on a split
level. It has been broken into two (2) buildings. Each is the same as
the other. The two (2) end units on each bu,lding is alike and the center
units are somewhat different. Building materials will consist of redwood
siding with Olympic Stain #717 semi -transparent. Windows will be Pella clad
and the trim, facia boards, etc., will be painted to match the windows. The
roof will cedar shake.
There will be a total of twelve (12) parking spaces. Majority of the
landscaping will be natural vegetation with some areas sodded. Snow storage
was shown on the plan. The retaining walls which will be wood -tied, are all
below the 6 foot maximum. Mark sated that there will be no lock off units.
Terrill stated that it conforms to the Design Review Board regulations and
zoning.
Norm commented that with a 6-plex a drainage study is required. That can be
dealt with later.
Ken commented that the balconies stick out like a sore -thumb. Mark said
that they did not want columns. They also serve as a cover for parking.
Actual site coverage by impervious material is 25 percent.
Mike stated that it seems to maintain some consistency to the general area.
This will be an all wood siding building.
Ken asked abou� the foundation. Marl: said it would he latexed :ifh a cpnd
w to agree with this.
Mike asked if the Board would consider that option. Bob stated that he felt
there is still enough good weather to put on a cedar roof. Cheryl stated that
if they were going to make a cedar roof the required type, then why should
the ,roar: let them put on a metal roof ant then take it off later. Sic also
stated that once a metal roof was put on, who would be responsible to seeing
� that it was removed when the time limit is up?
Tyson stated that it would be up to the individual homeowners. He also said
that the metal roof has been paid for. A cedar roof would take 2 to 3 times
4ft longer to put on. The metal roof could be completed in a day or so.
Tommy said it should be cedar and it probably wouldn't take more than
four (4) days to complete and be weather -tight. Ken and Mike agreed.
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The Board's final decision was for the roof to be cedar shake. The applicant
was told that if he disagreed with this decision, then he could appeal it
to the Town Council.
The Recording Secretary was to send a letter to the Town Council informing
them of the Design Review Board's decision.
Item N4, High Point Condominiums, Final Approval for Six-Plex, Lot 8, Block 1,
Mark Rizan made the presentation. He was requesting final approval for a
six-plex project.
There will be a basement area which will consist of a basement, garage and
utility storage area. It will have three (3) stories which are on a split
level. It has been broken into two (2) buildings. Each i= the same as
the other. The two (2) ena units on each building is alike and the center
units are somewhat different. Building materials will consist of redwood
siding with Olympic Stain #717 semi -transparent. Windows will be Pella clad
and the trim, facia boards, etc., will be painted to match the windows. The
roof will cedar shake.
There will be a total of twelve (12) parking spaces. Majority of the
landscaping will be natural vegetation with some areas sodded. Snow storage
was shown on the plan. The retaining wills which will be wood -tied, are all
below the 6 foot maximum. Mark stated that there will be no lock off units.
Terrill stated that it conforms to the Design Review Board regulations and
zoning.
Norm commented that with a 6-plex a drainage study is required. That can be
dealt with later.
Ken commented that the balconies stick out like a sore -thumb. Mark said
that they did not want columns. They also serve as a cover for parking.
Actual site coverage by impervious material is 25 percent.
Mike stated that it seems to maintain some consistency to the general area.
This will be an all wood siding building.
Ken asked about the foundation. Mark said it would be latexed with a sand
mixture and paint to give some texture. It will not be stucco.
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The Board granted final conditional approval with the conditions that a
drainage plan be submitted to the Town Engineer and is acceptable;
the exposed concrete areas be painted and some plant material be placed
in front of concrete foundation area.
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Mike discussed that the Town Council suggested and encouraged all Board
Members to attend the meetings. If they can not attend, then they should
contact the Secretary to let her know.
Terrill stated that we are going to have to s`.art having all applications
completely filled out and all materials must be brought in by the deadline.
Terrill also stated that he is in the process of revising a draft of the
Sign Code.
There being no further business, Bob made a motion to approve the Minutes
of 9/2/81, it was seconded by Cheryl., passed unanimously.
Ken made a motion to approve the Minutes of 9/16/81, seconded by Bob,
passed unanimously.
Bob made a motion to adjourn the meeting, seconded by Cheryl, passed unanimously.
Respectfully submitted by•
�(Q.F ()� 0.Melody Curhfiings
Recording Secretary
Design Review Board
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