PZC Minutes 120793(•
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
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The regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission was held on December 7, 1993, at 7:30
P.M. in the Town Council Chambers, Avon Town Municipal Building, 400 Benchmark Road, Avon,
Colorado. The meeting was called to order by Chairman John Perkins.
Members Present: John Perkins, Henry Vest
Rhoda Schneiderman, Sue Railton,
Buz Reynolds
Staff Present: Steve Amsbaugh, Director of Community
Development, Mary Holden, Town
Planner, Charlette Pascuzzi, Recording
Secretary
All members were present at roll call, except Jack Hunn and Patti Dixon.
Lot I. Lodge at Avon Subdivision, Avon Town Square Special Review Use For Off-site Parkins
Public Hearing
Steve Amsbaugh stated that there are actually three applications for the Avon Town Square project.
He stated that they are in a sequence so that they can get the necessary approvals to go to final design
approval, which is the third agenda item. He proceeded to describe where the two lots were located.
The building under discussion, this evening is located on Lot 1, which is approximately 25,700 square
feet. They are proposing a total of 75 parking spaces. In order to accommodate this building design,
parking and landscape ratio on Lot 1, they need to have 30 of the parking spaces off-site, which is a
Special Review Use.
Chairman Perkins then opened the public hearing for the Special Review Use. The Secretary stated
that there had been a couple calls and one person stopped in, just to get more information on the
matter. None of them had any problems with the request. With no public input, Chairman. Perkins
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Lot 1,_Lodee at Avon Subdivision Avon Town Square. Special Review Use for Off-site Parking_
Public Hearing, (cont)
then closed the public hearing.
Mary Holden stated that the request is to locate 30 of the 75 required parking spaces on Lot 2. A
deed or lease will be recorded and the deed or lease has to be perpetual. The proposal meets the
criteria to be considered while reviewing a Special Review Use. Staff recommends approval with the
condition that an off-site easement be recorded for Lot 2.
Al Williams stated that the Staff review was pretty thorough and they do have a cross -easement
document.
Chairman Perkins asked if, as they develop the companion parcel, they will meet that parking
requirement underground and with what is left to park on surface. A] Williams stated that they would
meet those requirements.
Buz Reynolds moved to approve Planning and Zoning Commission Resolution 93 - 11, approving the
Special Review Use for off-site parking for Lots I and 2, Lodge at Avon Subdivision.
Sue Railton seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Lot 1. Lodge at Avon Subdivision_ Avon Town Square Front Yard Setback Variance Public Hearing
Mary Holden stated that the applicant is requesting relief from the 25 foot setback requirement to
locate the dumpster enclosure. She pointed out on the plans where the dumpster would be located. It
will stand approximately 42" in height and will be stucco and painted to match the building, it is part of
the building and it will be screened from view. They do have an alternative location in a landscape
island, which would make it stand 6 feet and be in a prominent view. Staff feels this application meets
the criteria for considering a variance and recommends approval with the findings stated in the packet.
A] Williams stated that this proposed location blends better with the landscaping and building design
more than the alternative design.
Buz Reynolds asked if there was a roof on it. The applicant stated that there was not. He described
how the enclosure would be constructed. Discussion followed on the landscape screening. Discussion
followed on the snow collecting in the enclosure without a roof. The applicant stated that the
maintenance will clean that out if there is a problem. The applicant stated that the reason they are
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trying to avoid a roof is that it is one more form on the building. They feel that there is enough
screening there that the need for a roof doesn't seem apparent to them.
Buz Reynolds and Henry Vest felt that the enclosure needed a roof.
Chairman Perkins opened the public hearing. With no public input, Chairman Perkins closed the
public hearing.
Sue Railton moved to approve Planning and Zoning Commission Resolution 93 -12, approving the
front yard setback variance for Avon Town Square, Lot 1, The Lodge At Avon Subdivision.
John Perkins seconded the motion.
Under further discussion, Rhoda Schneiderman stated that she would like to see the motion amended
to include a condition that all plant materials be a minimum wall height at time of planting for
screening purposes. The Recording Secretary stated that Resolution 93 - 12 would not apply if
conditions are to be added. After more discussion Steve Amsbaugh stated that Staff believes their
plant schedule reflects planting materials that are plenty large enough to screen that 42 inch wall.
The Commission agreed that the original motion would stand. The motion carried with a three to two
vote, Henry Vest and Buz Reynolds voting nay.
Lot 1 Lodge at Avon Subdivision Avon Town Square Final Design Review
Steve Amsbaugh stated that this applicant appeared before the Commission on November 16, for
conceptual Design Review and has reflected the comments the comments made by the Commission
into this final design review application. Amsbaugh stated that the application has been reviewed by
Town Staff and meets the Town development criteria set forth in the codes. The lot size is currently
33,000 square feet for Lot 1. They are going through a boundary line revision at the next Town
Council meeting, to adjust that property line 12 feet to the south and the new property size will be
37,269 square feet, which is in conformance with the Zoning Code minimum lot size for this district.
The building height proposed is 37 feet. The setback requirements have been covered with the
variance. The building coverage is 23 percent, allowable is 50 percent. Also, the landscaping
requirement of 20 percent has been met. They have also agreed to meet our streetscape
standards along Benchmark Road.
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Lot 1, Lodge at Avon Subdivision Avon Town Square Final Design Review. (cont)
They have, with the Special Review Use just approved, placed 30 of their parking spaces on the
adjacent Lot 2, so they have off-site parking for this proposal.
Amsbaugh stated the following land use approvals are necessary to implement this project:
1. Final Design Approval.
2. Special Review Use for Off-site parking, which was just approved.
3. The front yard setback variance which was just granted.
4. They will be before Town Council on the 14th for a lot line revision, final plat
amendment. That has been reviewed and is in order.
5. They will then be going before the Town Council for Preliminary and Final
Condominium Plats.
The site plan has been reviewed and the preliminary grading, drainage and landscape has been
reviewed by Staff and the Town Engineer and meets the minimum requirements, except for the
conditions to follow. Parking meets the requirements. The landscaping will also include
streetscape improvements and also sculpture pedestals in seven locations. The trash dumpster
will be integrated into the building itself. Handicap parking has been provided and handicap
ramps into the garden level and main level of the building are provided.
The proposed building footprint is approximately 8600 square feet. The building has a hip
roof form with a standing seam metal roof, proposed in Fawn Gray, and the roof fascia will be
Everglade Green. Siding will generally consist of a Light Warm Gray dryvit finish with a Taupe
colored window system.. The proposed sign band above the first floor will be a Light
Warm Gray, and accent columns will be a Dark Warm Gray to add relief. Everglade Green
paint will be used on all proposed metal railings.
Also, the applicant is proposing a final master sign program for the project. It provides for general
building identification in three locations and one entry way sign at the driveway entrance.
Those signs would have, in the daytime, black lettering, "Slifer, Smith And Frampton Building"
is the signage on these signs. At night they would be illuminated from the rear. Regarding
tenant signage, they are proposing 14 tenant signs, and the locations are shown on the plans
included in the packet. The total copy of those signs would be 24" in height and would be blue
in color. Each tenant is proposed to have two signs, one on the north and one on the south,
because the first floor tenant spaces run all the way throughout the building. Garden level
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Lot 1_ Lodae at Avon Subdivision Avon Town Square Final Design Review, (cont)
signage would be hanging signs within the garden level walkway and would be limited to 7.5
square feet per sign. The body and color of those signs would be similar to the trim and
body of the building. The second level tenants are not allowed exterior or window signage. A
tenant directory will be placed on the south side main entrance to direct people to the second
floor. Temporary banners will be allowed during construction of the permanent signage.
Staff has reviewed both the final design review application and the sign program for
conformance for the review criteria set forth in the sign code and the design guideline and
find that they generally meet all the criteria.
Staff would recommend approval of the final design review and sign program for Lots
1 and 2, Lodge at Avon Subdivision, subject to the following fourteen conditions:
1. The street and streetscape improvements on Benchmark Road frontage be extended
to Avon Road, and be provided by the applicant. Those are basically the lighting
pedestals and the sidewalks. These improvements must be reviewed and approved
by the Town Engineer prior to building permit issuance.
2. Final drainage, grading and driveway design and culvert be approved by the Town
Engineer prior to building permit issuance.
3. The building colors be indicated on the approved design plans.
4. The dumpster gate be relocated back toward the dumpster to allow for the
complete use of the 35' loading dock area.
5. All streetscape lighting and furniture conform to Town specifications as set forth in the
Town Guidelines.
6. A landscape irrigation system be provided.
7. Landscape islands in the parking lot include two additional trees each.
8. The sculpture pedestal be eliminated in the landscape island at the west end of
the site.
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9. The handicap ramp located in the east sideyard setback be relocated or redesigned.
10 The entry drive sign be relocated to allow for future sidewalk improvements.
I 1 The streetscape improvement be extended on Lot 2 to the westerly end of the
proposed off-site parking.
12. First level tenant signage shall not exceed 20 square feet per commercial tenant.
This can be modified at the Commission's discretion through the master sign program
application, but total square footages were not provided, so the requirement is
provided as a condition of approval.
13 True PMS color for signage be included in the Sign Program.
14 Approval of technical corrections identified by Staff.
Jim Nordlie, the architect, stated he would address some of the architectural conditions.
He provided a massing model for the Commission to view. Some details are missing, as it
is not quite finished, but it will give the Commission an idea of the building architecture.
He stated that what they are trying with the building colors is that they want the roof to be
a more subdued color. The Everglade Green will be the fascia and the soffits and railings.
They will work with the sign people to use a similar PMS color for the color on the
building. The lower level base color will be a slightly different color ceramic the that will
tie the building down to the base of the site. The darker stucco color will define certain
elements of the building and they will use a darker window color to punch the windows
out somewhat from the field color. They do not want the building to be too bright.
Nordlie stated that they will also submit, within a week, the numbers for these colors.
They will move the dumpster gate back to allow for the use of the 35' loading dock. They
will be indicating on the landscape plan the irrigation required on the landscaping. They
will comply with the trees and large shrubs on the islands as requested. The handicap
ramp will be worked out with the Town Engineer. The entry drive sign will be relocated
as indicated by Staff. Mr. Nordlie then introduced Larry Ast to discuss the sign program.
Chairman Perkins indicated that Mr. Nordlie has responded to conditions 2, 3, 4, 6, 10,
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and 13 as being addressed and that they will comply with.
Larry Ast addressed the matter of the allowable 20 square foot signs, stating that he believes
that in many other sign programs that has been modified slightly. He stated that they are trying to
create a balance, within each sign face, of open space as well as the availability to have copy of the
name and a small nature of the business below the name. There is a section in the program which
indicates the square footages by tenant space. Discussion followed on the matter of the
request for 24 square feet signs and how they were calculated. The band is 3 and one half feet.
Discussion followed on why the band was so large. Nordlie stated that it is part of the canopy
that is an over hang that covers the pedestrian walkway.
Buz Reynolds stated that since there is so much signage on this building, he would like to
treat it as a separate item. He would like to see it tabled and brought back. Larry Ast asked
if it could be broken into the building identification signage and the tenant signage. Mr. Al
Williams described what the identification signs would be and where they would be located.
Discussion followed on the lighting for the signs and the sizes of the letters.
Steve Amsbaugh suggested that the Commission approve the master sign program with the
stipulation that the tenant signage portion will be brought back for approval by the Commission.
Mr. Nordlie stated that Item 1, the streetscape issue would be reviewed with the Town
Engineer. Item 2, the grading, drainage and culverts will be provided to the Town Engineer
for approval. Item 5, All streetscape lighting and furniture will conform with the Town
specifications. Al Williams stated that he worked with Scott Ellison's firm regarding the
landscape plan and some of the landscaping had to be reduced when the lighting was
introduced to the plan. They had more trees on the islands, but had to delete some so
that they would not interfere with the lighting. Regarding the sculpture, Dean Knox
would like to have the sculpture where indicated, and they would like to leave it there
if it fits well and does not interfere with traffic, etc. Approval from the owners
association would also have to be given before any sculptures will be installed.
Mr. Williams stated that they do not have any problem extending the streetscape
improvements on Lot 2. Regarding the additional trees requested for the islands, the
applicant will work with Staff on it. Chairman Perkins suggested lumping Items 7 & 8
under Item 14 and letting them be technical corrections. The Commission agreed.
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Lot 1. Lodge at Avon Subdivision, Avon Town Square, Final Design Review, (cont)
Buz Reynolds asked about the element that is open on the north west side. How is it finished and
what is going in there? Mr. Nordlie stated that it will be finished similar to the existing building with
the field stucco and background stucco and actually there will be the 12 foot letters of "Slifer,
Smith and Frampton". Behind there may be low level condenser/compressor units that will help
condition space within the upper level building. That will act as part of the screen for these units.
It will also identify an entry to that side of the building. Reynolds asked if they will be colored
to blend into the roof. The applicant stated they would be. They will be two feet at most.
If they get too big they will cover them.
Reynolds also asked how they plan on finishing off between Lots 1 and 2. The applicant stated
that they would have a wooden fence that would define that area. Reynolds asked if Lot 2
would be a clean site once the building on Lot 1 was finished. The applicant stated it would be
cleaned. Reynolds stated that when they come back for the signage, he would like to see a larger
sample of the roof color and the trim color.
Henry Vest asked about the drainage of the roof. The applicant stated that there would be a fully
heat traced drained roof. There will be a two foot gutter that wraps all the way around it
and the heat system underneath it so it will have snowmelt and they will be taking all the water
down through the building.
Rhoda Schneiderman stated she was glad it is a subdued building.
Sue Railton stated she thinks the building is fine.
John Perkins stated that he thinks they have done a good job with this building.
Rhoda Schneiderman moved to grant final design review for Lots 1 and 2, Lodge at Avon
Subdivision with the following Staff conditions: One through six, and ten through thirteen with
seven, eight and nine lumped under number 14 and be approved by Staff. Also the tenant
sign program and the roof color and cap flashings come back to the Commission for
approval.
Buz Reynolds seconded and the motion carded unanimously.
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Lot 39, Block 2. Wildridge Subdivision Michael Sanner. Final Design Review
Mary Holden stated that the Commission saw this at the conceptual level at the October
19, 1993 meeting, s is a single family with an accessory unit. The materials are asphalt shingles,
charcoal in color; cedar lap siding with stucco; and the hand and deck rails will be log or wood with
cutouts. The landscaping plan consists of aspen and cottonwoods and various shrubs and forbs
which are listed in the Staff Report. The proposal meets with the design review considerations
specified in the Planning and Zoning Commission Procedures, Rules and Regulations. Staff
recommends approval with the following conditions:
1. The meters be placed on the building.
2. The shrubs be a minimum of five gallons in size.
3. Retaining walls 4' in height be designed by a licensed engineer.
4. All flues, flashings, and vents be painted a flat dark color , or a color to match
the building.
Michael Sanner stated that he probably forgot to put it down on the drawing that the
shrubs would be five gallon size. He provided a color rendering and color samples. It will
be an off white stucco and natural cedar siding and the accent stripe that is part of the fascia
will be a kind of a sage green. Discussion followed on the colors.
Discussion followed on the landscaping and irrigation system. Saner stated that the lawn
area will be irrigated and the trees will be a drip system.
Perkins asked what kind of retaining wall will be used. Saner stated that they will be
boulders. The wall will be from 4 or 5 feet down to zero as you get closer to the road.
The general consensus of the Commission was that they liked the project.
Sue Railton moved to grant final design approval with the Staff recommendations.
Buz Reynolds seconded and the motion carred unanimously.
Lot 2. Block 5. Wildrdge Subdivision The Foxx 4 Spiegel/Tracey Duplex Final Design
Changes
Mary Holden stated that the applicant is requesting various changes listed as follows:
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Lot 2. Block 5. Wildridge Subdivision the Foxx 4 Spiegel/Tracey Duplex Final Design Changes
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West Elevation (front)
Switching the two entry elements. They will remain the same, they are just being swaps ed out for
each other.
South Elevation (right)
They are adding a dormer and five windows.
East Elevation (rear)
They are adding a deck and stairs, and they are changing a window to the door on the second
level, and are adding a door on the first level and they are changing two windows in style
and location.
The only site plan change is that the retaining wall in front is now boulders and not just a solid wall.
The materials proposed are: Asphalt shingles in a Aspen Gray; Body color is a Flagstone
(gray with a blue hue); Trim is Commander (darker gray with more blue hue); Accent is
Smoky Slate (deep blue).
Staff recommends approval with the following conditions:
1. If the boulder retaining wall is over 4', it will need to be designed by a licensed engineer.
2. The meters be placed on the building.
All flashings, flues and vents be painted a flat dark color or match the building color
where they are located.
Chris Spiegel stated that he has already had an engineer work on the retaining wall. The
engineer will be sending a letter.
Railton asked what color the windows would be. The applicant stated that they were going to
highlight those with the dark blue. Railton asked what the balcony and railings would be.
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Lot 2. Bleck 5. Wildridpe Subdivision Foxx/4 Spiegel/Tracgy Duplex Final Design Review,
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The applicant stated that they will probably be cedar wood. Railton asked what the front
door would be. The applicant stated that he did not know what the door would be.
Rhoda Schneiderman stated that she appreciates that the applicant came for most of the changes
before they are done. She asked if the roof was a three tab roof. Steve Amsbaugh stated that our
condition is that it be a 3004 architectural dimensioned shingle. It has to be a layered shingle.
Schneiderman stated that she would like to see a full sample of the roof, not just a color tab.
Schneiderman stated that she thinks it is important to know what the windows will be. The
applicant stated that they will be painted the darker blue color.
Rhoda Schneiderman moved to grant final design approval with the following conditions:
1. A full roof product sample be brought back for approval, and it be an architectural
dimensional asphalt shingle.
2. Color samples for the front doors and balconies and rails be brought back,
3. Any retaining walls over 4' in height be designed by a licensed Engineer, and such
detail be submitted to the Town of Avon for approval.
4. The meters be placed on the building.
5. All flashing, Sues and vents be painted a flat dark color or match the building color where
they are located.
Buz Reynolds seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Lot 18/19. Block 1. Benchmark at Beaver Creek Subdivision_ Conceptual Design Review
Mary Holden stated that Mark Donaldson is representing the applicant. It is a conceptual
for an office/warehouse building which is approximately 27,000 square feet. It will be
two stories in height with three types of concrete block and stucco. Staff concerns are as
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Lot 18/19, Block 1. Benchmark at Beaver Creek Subdivision Conceptual Design Review. (cont)
1. The 1:1 slope on the west side of the building is not allowed. At a minimum it must be 2:1 or
1-1/2:1 with a soils report..
2. A drainage report is being required for final design review submittal, due to the fact that this
area is a main drainage condor for the vicinity.
An amended final plat will be required to vacate the lot line. This involves Town Council
approval.
4. The office use will require a Special Review Use in the Industrial/Commercial District.
Also if there are any residential units proposed, that will require a Special Review Use.
5. Loading spaces need to be called out which meet the Town requirements, not loading zones.
6. Slope retention and retaining walls will need to be addressed by detailed design and, if
necessary, designed by a licensed engineer.
7. The parking, loading spaces and the circulation plan ML.'-.! be provided with final design
submittal showing functional circulation within the parking areas.
As a conceptual design review, Staff has no formal recommendation.
Mark Donaldson stated that they left the I : l slope on the west side of the building just for this
submittal. The client is a general contractor and they are studying a variety of ways to step and
tier retaining on the west s'8e of the parking lot with a masonry/earth integrated wall system and
that will be presented later. A drainage report and design is being done by Inter -Mountain
Engineering. They are intending to vacate the lot line between Lots 18 and 19.
Donaldson stated that at this time they are uncertain as to the mix of the tenants, but they will
comeback if any of the tenants are purely office, but they do understand about a Special
Review Use. They are proposing no residential units. The loading spaces have been
calculated to be one and they will define that more clearly. They realize that they also have to
prepare for snow storage. Right now they have calculated pai king spaces as if fifty percent
will be office and fifty percent as warehouse, but that will be adjusted according to the
tenant mix.
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Lots 18/19, Block 1, Benchmark at Beaver Creek Subdivision, Conceptual Design Review,
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Buz Reynolds asked about the coloration of the blocks. IUonaldson stated that the little
squares will be like a polished granite face and they will be protruded. The infill between
each of the columns at the lower level on the east face and the only level on the west face
will be infill framing with wood and stucco and they are preparing for a wide range of store front
overhead doors, personnel doors, any type of arrangement like that, so they have flexibility
within the structure. He stated that the sign program is all organized by bay, and like some other
projects around here they would like to be able to have street facing signs on to second floor,
because they enter on the rear. They will not be brash with the colors. They are really
playing more with the textures of the block.
Reynolds asked about the roof. Donaldson stated that it would be a flat roof, enclosed and
concealed by parapet walls.
Sue Railton stated that she liked the contrast with the different blocks.
Donaldson stated that they have some issues to work out with the Town Engineer on the
curb and directional signage at the entry.
Rhoda Schneiderman stated that the parapet wall seems a little monotonous, even though
every other one there is a break. Donaldson stated they had studied different ways to do that,
and he would look at it a bit more, but he thinks the signage will help it. Schneiderman
stated that she is concerned with the bays, if every tenant is going to be allowed to build a different
type of entry to the bays. How will they get that to work as far as colors go, materials and shapes?
Donaldson stated that he thinks that is part of the fun of it. They have kept it contained and
syncopated so it is all contained within one bay. They can limit the colors there as far as
window trim and door trim and let the configuration and arrangement be the only thing that is
different. Schneiderman stated that there should be some kind of limits on it.
Railton asked what color the blocks would be. Donaldson stated that they haven't selected them
yet. They are looking at the mountainside for the colors. They feel the building itself should
recede into the landscape more. Railton stated that she would like to see it in grayish muted
tones and then bring in a strong palette of colors for trim and signage.
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Lots 18/19, Block 1. Benchmark at Beaver Creek Subdivision Conceptual Design Review,
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Henry Vest asked how much buildable square footage there is on the two sites. Donaldson
stated it is 2.6 acres. Vest suggested putting two buildings. He was trying to suggest some
other way to do the parapets. Donaldson stated that in a way they have two buildings. On
the left hand side, southeast corner, that building is actually separated, although not by a
great deal. A rendering was then presented. Discussion followed on the road right- of -way
that runs across the property.
Reynolds asked how high the retaining wall in the back gets. Donaldson stated that it ranges
between zero to ten or twelve feet. He stated they are still studying the best way to do the wall.
Reynolds asked what would be done with the snow back there. Donaldson stated that it would
have to be hauled off.
John Perkins stated he thinks it is a good project. He likes the scale of it and he likes the proposed
materials. Perkins stated that as a conceptual design review, the Commission takes no action
at this time.
Lot 24, Block 3.- Wildridge Subdivision Jim Klein Detached Duplex Conceptual Design Review
Mary Holden stated that two plans were submitted, one for a detached duplex, or two single
family residences, and the alternative was for a duplex. Staff is not reviewing the detached
duplex concept, due to Resolution 91-17. The Staff Report is based on the alternative duplex.
The site is bordered on two sides by Wildridge Road. The lot slopes steeply from east to west.
Access to the duplex is proposed by a driveway/parking bridge that is approximately 70' in width.
The two main concerns with this proposal is that the duplex is placed on the steepest part of the site,
requiring extensive retaining walls, but the off set of that is that there may not be as much site
disturbance with the bridge. The other major concern is that the driveway entrance does not meet
Town standards.
Since this is a conceptual review, Staff has no formal recommendation.
Michael Sanner stated that he and the applicant realized that there is a potential for two separate
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Lot 24, Block 3, Wildridge Subdivision, Jim Klein, Detached Duplex, Conceptual Design
Review_ (cont
units on this lot. The lot does not lend itself well to a normal duplex, but is perfect for two single
units. They are asking the Commission to review the detached version and are asking the Town to
review the moratorium on subdivisions of lots. The detached version allows for more benefits,
such as more privacy, better solar access and better views for each unit. Sanner stated that he was
trying to provide parking at the driveway. Mr. Sanner stated that what they would like is the
Commission's response to the idea of a detached, single family concept.
John Perkins asked Staff what the Council's posture on this ordinance. Steve Amsbaugh stated
that the way this application came before the Commission is that Mr. Klein presented a letter
to the Town Manager and Town Council requesting and interpretation of the moratorium. With
that in mind, he and the Town Manager talked it over and thought it would be best to come to
the Commission for a feeling from a design point of view. Obviously the ordinance would have
to be changed, or rather the motion would have to be modified or amended. The Council is
seeking the Commission's input on this issue.
Rhoda Schneiderman stated that this was discussed at the worksession and ftt it probably
would not be a good idea to go ahead and grant anyone particular situation until guidelines
were established for all situations.
Sue Railton stated that this is a unique situation with two road frontages. She feels it is a
good way to develop it. She thinks they have to be flexible.
Buz Reynolds stated that he has counted nine lots in Wildridge that have the same type of situation
where they have two road frontages. He stated that this is one of the sites that actually lends itself
to this kind of situation. Looking at what Mr. Sanner has drawn for the two separate units, it
is a better situation for the homeowners and builders. Nr thinks it is a better looking site
than having the duplex hanging off the hillside.
Rhoda Schneiderman asked what setbacks have been drawn on the detached duplex. Mr. Sanner
stated that he thinks that they are about 26 feet apart. Schneiderman stated that she was required
by the Town to have 20 foot setbacks from all sides. She asked if they could achieve that on
a half acre of land. Mr. Sanner stated that he would have to study that.
Buz Reynolds stated that he feels it is a good concept.
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Lot 24, Block 3. Wildridge Subdivision, Jim Klein, Detached Duplex, Conceptual Design
Review. (cont)
Steve Amsbaugh stated that the Commission cannot review or approve a detached duplex
at this time. What the Commission can do is say it is worth consideration, and request that
he passes on to Town Council for some time to complete the workshop process and
develop some draft policies to send on to Council to help them modify that current policy
they have in effect. The Commission members felt that they need to start on this and get
something worked up for the Council as soon as possible.
After considerable discussion, the Commission stated that they would try and work out
some policy changes. Chairman Perkins stated that the applicant should continue
communicating with the Staff and the Commission will recommend that the Staff approach
The Council and tell them that the Commission wants to pursue this issue.
Steve Amsbaugh stated that they would commit to working on the matter, but that is not an
instantaneous process. He asked the applicant if they had two to three months to spare.
The applicant stated that he was willing to wait for a month or so. He stated that he would
have to start building on June 1 st. Amsbaugh stated that in the meantime he can keep the
Town Council up to date on the intentions of the Planning Commission on reviewing this
item.
Chairman Perkins stated that the Commission recommends that Staff moves ahead as quickly as
possible with resolving this issue. The applicant stated that this is all he can hope for.
Lot 45, Block 2, Benchmark at Beaver Creek Subdivision, Falcon Pointe. Design
Modifications
Mary Holden stated that Falcon Pointe is requesting approval to add four windows on the
northwest elevation of the building. The windows will match the existing windows in size,
materials, color and alignment. Staff has no real issue with this application and recommends
approval.
Sue Railton moved to grant approval to Lot 45, Block 2 Benchmark at Beaver Creek
Subdivision, Falcon Pointe window additions.
Henry Vest seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
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Reading and Approval of the Planning and Zoning Commission MeetingMinu of
November 16 1993
Henry Vest moved to approve the minutes of the November 16, 1993, Planning and Zoning
Commission meeting as submitted.
Buz Reynolds seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Other Business
Steve Amsbaugh stated that next week the Town Council has requested that two things
occur... One is that a Special Planning and Zoning Commission meeting is held at 3 PM on December
14th, in the back chamber to have the architects come up and present the Aquatics facility to the
Commission in detail. The Town Council will get the same presentation from 2 to 3. Then
the Town Council would like the Commission to meet jointly with them, from 4 to 5 to discuss the
project. Secondly, the owners of the Seasons at Avon project are requesting that a Special
Planning and Zoning Commission meeting be held next Tuesday, the 14th at 5 PM to consider
modifications to their approved final design plan, in order to allow them to enclose the football
area between the residential component and the back commercial wing. Rhoda Schneiderman
asked why they couldn't wait for the regularly scheduled meeting. Steve Amsbaugh stated they
need to get tenant finish going in that building for Vail Associates in January and they need to get a
roof over it first. If they have to wait for approval on the twenty first for it, that is just before
Christmas, and if they can get an extra week it would keep them moving ahead.
Rhoda Schneiderman moved to adjourn, Buz Reynolds seconded and the meeting was adjourned at
9:45 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Charlette Pascuzzi
Recording Secretary
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