PZC Minutes 010593RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
January 5, 1993
The regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission was held
on January 5, 1993, at 7:30 PM in the Town Council Chambers, Avon
Town Municipal Building, 400 Benchmark Rd., Avon, Colorado. The
meeting was called to order by Chairman John Perkins.
Members Present: John Perkins, Henry Vest
Sue Railton, Jack Hunn
Rhoda Schneiderman, Patti Dixon
Buz Reynolds
Staff Present: Rick Pylman. Director of
Communitv Development,
Tom Allender, Planner
Charlette Pascuzzi. Recording
Secretary
Chairman Perkins stated that all members were present, except for
Jack Hunn. Jack Hunn at 7:35.
iv_lsion, Design and Construction
sign Review
Tom Allender stated that Lot 14 is a 16,000 square foot duplex
lot. Design and Construction Services is proposing to build a
single family residence on this lot. The structure is
approximately 4800 square feet, which includes 2300 square feet of
living area and 1700 square feet of unfinished basement, and two
400 square foot garages. The building is three stories, with the
lower level a walkout basement. The material will be 6" D Logs
(flattened on three sides), finished in light gray as well as the
trim around the doors and the windows. The doors and fascia will
be dark green and the windows white. The standing seam metal roof
will be a forest green. The roof form is dominated by a 5/12
gable with a shed roof over the entrance.
The original plan shows 4 open hearth fireplaces, 2 interior and
2 exterior. The applicant has agreed to remove the two outside
and replace the two interior ones with gas. Th)s makes the
masonry chimney impratical and will be replaced with a framed
chase, finished in white stucco with stone accents.
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PLANNING AND ZONING
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COMMISSION MEETINGMINUTES
Lot 14, Filing 1, Eaglebend Subdivi_si,on,,___Desi-gn and Construction
Services, Single Family. Final.Design_Rev_iew, (cont)
There is a possbility of converting The unfinished basement into a
secondary unit. With the duplex zoning this will not be a
problem.
This proposal
meets all the criteria and zoning code and
design
guidelines.
Staff recommendation is for
approval with
the
following conditions: 1. The open hearth
fireplaces will
be
deleted in
the plans submitted with the
building
permit
application;
and 2. If a rental apartment
is constructed
in the
basement, all
appropriate fees will be paid
and required
permits
and approvals
obtained prior to construction.
Tony Seibert provided some photos of a similar log structure for
the Commission to review. The logs are a lodgepole that is
locally milled in Kremmling. They serve strictly as an outside
siding. The plans showed 1700 square feet of unfinished basement,
but that will probably be reduced to about 1000 square feet. The
gray will be a light dusting to give the logs a weathered look.
Considerable discussion followed on the two, two car garages, and
what other layouts could be used; on the stone to be used on the
chimney and base of the building; keeping the log look throughout
instead of the shingles over the garage doors; and additional
landscaping to screen all the parking.
Patti Dixon moved to approve Lot 14, Filing 1, Eaglebenc
Subdivision, with the following conditions:
1. The open hearth fireplaces will be deleted in the plans
submitted with the building permit application.
2. If a rental apartment is constructed in the basement, ail
appropriate fees will be paid and required permits and approvals
obtained prior to construction.
3. Continue the log treatment on the gable ends above the garage
doors.
4. Use a T & G siding on garage doors.
Rhoda Schneiderman seccrded.
The motion was amended to include elimination of the stucco panels
at the gable ends of the dormers, to be finished in log or T & G
siding, and also to include landscaping to screen the parking
area. Rhoda Schneiderman seconded the amendments. The motion
carried with Jack Hunn and John Perkins voting nay.
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January 5, 1993
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Lot 2 Block 5 Wildridge Subdivision,_ Landscape and __Siding,_ Final
Design Review
Tom Allender stated that on April 16, 1991 the Commission granted
final approval on this project with the conditions that a more
detailed landscape plan be provided showing dimensions. The
applicant has provided that information. Also required as a
condition was that more information on the siding specifications
be provided. A small sample has been provided. Allender stated
that it is similar to the material used on the Eaglebend
Apartments and the material being used on Bristol Pines. The
material sample was studied by the Commission and they had
concerns about the durability.
The Commission then reviewed the landscaping plan and had
considerable questions regarding the plan.
Since the applicant was not present to respond to the questions,
Buz Reynolds moved to table this item to the January 19, 1993
meeting. Sue Railton seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
vision Bristol
Rick Pylman stated that Randy Marino, developer of Bristol Pines
is once again requesting a change from shake shingles to asphait
shingles. Pylman stated that previously the Beacon Hill
Homeowners Association had objected to the change. That objection
has been withdrawn and a letter of support has been provided. The
shingle requested is the Timberline Ultra in the weathered wood
color.
Discussion followed on the request. The general consensus was
that the main concern with the previous denial was the objections
of the Beacon Hill Association. Discussion followed on the color
the building is being painted. It was felt that the red color was
too bright. The applicant stated that they would see what they
could do about it.
Rhoda Schneiderman moved to approve the material change request
for Lot 70, Block 1, Benchmark at Beaver Creek Subdivision,
Bristol Pines Townhomes.
Sue Railton seconded and the motion carried with John Perkins
voting nay.
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COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
Lot 25 Block 2. Benchmark at Beaver Creek Subdivision L__ Christie
Lodge Conceptual Review of Revised Sign Program
and __Awnings
Design
John Perkins stepped down since he was acting as representative
for Christie Lodge.
Since no information had been presented to Staff. Mr. Perkins made
an informal presentation on the sign program, since he did not
have a typewritten document at this time. He also requested
approval for the awnings for the Christie Lodge, Subway, and
Ironhorse Pizza. All awnings will be the same color, and will be
the same color as the red trim and roof. Considerable discussion
fo,lowed on the form of the Subway and Ironhorse awnings.
Discussion followed on the lettering which will be in white
letters. Logos will be allowed. The awnings will be back lit.
Perkins described the various signs to be displayed. All signs
wi-1 be the same color. Discussion followed on the need to have
egg crate on the Subway and the Ironhorse awnings. Discussion
followed on the use of helvetica lettering throughout. It was
felt that a business should be able to decide what type of
lettering they would like. Since Rhoda Schneiderman and Patti
Dixon were both talking at the same time as John Perkins it is
difficult to transcribe this portion of the meeting.
Jack Hunn stated that the Commission is trying to apply some good
principals in terms of individuality end variety to the wrong
building. This building is predominately residential, and has
very little commercial activity. the awnings have to be the same
color. If you start introducing other color letters they will not
read the same, they will not be as intense as the one next to
them. White is a uniform look.
More discussion followed on the lettering styles. Perkins stated
that he will bring all signs in for the Commission to see, with
the exception of the Subway, Ironhorse, and Christie Lodge awnings
which he would like to have approved this evening.
Discussion followed on the lighting of the awnings and how the
frames are mounted.
Rhoda Schneiderman moved to approve the awning design for
Ironhorse Pizza, Christie Lodge, and Subway, with the requirement
that Subway and Ironhorse include the egg crate on the frames.
Also recommends that the sign program institute more variety in it
regarding type faces and additional colors added to the white
lettering.
Patti Dixon seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
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January 5, 1993
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Other Business
COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
Lots 214, Sunroad Subdivision, Denny's Restaurant Sign Changes
Tom Allender stated that
the signs for Denny's,
come in at the approved
and 2 signs at 31.5 sq.
signs delivered are all
ft. The contractor is
rather than send them
frontage is 135 feet.
Western Neon Sign, the contractor doing
has informed him that the signs did not
sizes which was 2 signs at 19.9 sq. ft.
ft., for a total of 102.6 sq. ft. The
28 sq. ft. in size, for a total of 112 sq.
requesting approval of these four signs,
back. Allender stated t; -3t Denny's lot
After some discussion, Jack Hunn moved to approve the sign
revision for Denny's Restaurant as submitted. Patti Dixon
seconded, and the motion carried with Rhoda Schneiderman voting
nay.
g Commission_Mee cing
Jack Hunn moved to approve the minutes of the December 15, 1992
meeting as submitted. Rhoda Schneiderman seconded and the motion
carried unanimously.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:05 PM.
Respectfully submitted.
Charlette Pascuzzi
Recording Secretary