PZC Minutes 050388RECORD Or PROCEEDINGS
MINUTES OF PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING
MAY 3, 1988
The regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning
Commission was held on May 3, 1988, at 7:40 PM in the
Town Council Chambers of the Town of Avon Municipal
Complex, 400 Benchmark Road, Avon, Colorado. The
meeting was called to order by Chairwoman Pat Cuny.
Members Present: Pat Cuny, Tom Landauer, Frank Doll,
John Perkins, Denise Hili
Clayton McRory
Staff Present: Norm Wood, D=.rector of Engineering and
Community Development; Ray Wright
Engineering Technician; Jim Lamont,
Planning Consultant; Charlette
Pascuzzi, Recording Secretary
Introduction of New Members
Chairwoman Pat Cuny introducea Clayton McRory, .'John
Perkins and Denise Hill as newly appointed members of
the Commission.
Election of Officers
Cuny called for nominations for Chairperson.
Landauer nominated Pat Cuny for Chairperson.
Doll stated that he felt that Cuny had represented the
Commissiin very well the past year and does not see any
advantage in changing leadership at this tim-. No other
nominations were made. The nomination passed
unanimously.
Cuny called for nominations for Vice -Chairperson.
Landauer nominated Frank Doll. No other nominations
were made. The nomination passed unanimously.
Cuny called for nominations for Secretary.
McRory nominated Tom Landauer
Doll nominated Denise Hill. The nominations were
closed.
Cuny called for a vote for Landauer as Secretary with
McRory and Perkins voting aye.
Cuny called for a vote for Hill with Doll, Cuny and
Landauer voting aye. Denise Hill is the new Secretary.
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Lot b9, Block 2, Benchmark at Beaver Creek, Variance to
Allow Parking Within 10 Foot Front Yard Setback - Public
Hearing And De=ign Review For A Retail Development.
Wright stated that the owners of Lot 69, Block 2,
Benchmark at Beaver Creek have applied for Design Review
of a retail development they are proposing for the site.
The site is located directly across the street from City
Market. The development generally consists of a single
story building housing retail shops served by surface
parking. The applicant is also requesting approval of a
variance to allow ;.he surface parking to encroach
approximately three feet intc the ten foot front yard
setbacks along Beaver Creek Place and East Beaver Creek
Boulevard.
Due to a number of concerns that the Staff had in
reviewing they proposal, the applicant is requesting at
this time tt.at both items be continued to the next
regular meeting. In case there is someone present at
the meeting who is here to speak, on the variance due to
the public notice that was sent out, it would be
appropriate to open the public hearing and take that
inout. A separate action will bE required to continue
the application for Design Review and the Variance.
Curly opened the public hearing and called for any
comments from the audience. She asked also if there had
been any correspondence received by the Staff. With no
public input received Curly closed the public hearing.
Doll moved to continue the public hearing for the
variance.
Landauer seconded.
The motion passed unanimously.
Landauer moved to continue the design review
applici-tion.
Doll seconded.
The motion passed unanimously.
Winfield Inn, Lot 73/74 Block 2. Benchmark at Beaver
Creek, Sign Progam, Design
rReview
Wright stated that the Wynfield Inn has been purchased
by a nationwide hotel chain and the new owners are
requesting approval of a new E:gn program for the
project. They are proposing to change the two existing
building mounted signs with similar pan channel letters
that read "Comfort :nn" and replace the free standing
sign out front with a standard Comfort Inn monument
sign. The project currently has 96 square feet o+
signage, which is the maximum that would be allowed
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under the sign code, with the 50% increase for a sign
program. This proposal is 12 feet over that due to the
fact that we have to count both sides of the monument
sign. Because of the 12 square feet they technically
need a variance to get this approved. The building
mounted signs are virtually the same size as the current
signs. The color of the faces will be yellow instead of
green. The monument sign will be the standard colors
for the new chain. Discussion followed on the colors.
Bill London, Manager of the Wynfield, stated that in
clarification, they are not changing ownerships, they
are gust getting a name change. Discussion followed on
the size of the monument sign. Mr. London stated that
this is the smallest Comfort Inn sign made.
Discussion followeJ on the procedure for variances on
signs.
Cuny stated the criteria and findings required for
granting a variance
Doll moved that the variance be granted under the
findings of A: That the granting of the variance will
not constitute a grant of special privilege inconsistent
with the limitations on other properties in the
vicinity; and B -i: The strict or literal
interpretation and enforcement of the regulation would
result in practical difficulty or unnecessary physical
hardship inconsistent with the objectives of this title.
Landauer seconded.
The motion passed unanimously.
Sunridge Phase II Clubhouse Preliminary Design Review
Wright stated that the Sunridge Phase II Homeowners
Association has applied for Preliminary Design Review of
a Clubhouse they propose to construct. The building
will be located at the north end of the site between the
parking lot and the river, and between buildings "J" and
"K". Improvements include locker rooms, hot tub, steam
and sauna, exercise room, office, and a multi-purpose
room with a small kitchen. An area for construction of
a future swimming pool is also indicated on the plans.
Materials include wood siding, river -rock, and shake
shingles. Wright stated that a representative from the
Homeowners Association was present to make the
presentation and answer any questions, however Mr. kraft
wished to wait until his architect arrived.
While waiting for the architect to arrive, discussion
followed on bhe resignation of Commission member Mark
Donaldson.
Wood stated that the Council would be appointing another
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member to the Commission in the near future.
Mark Donaldson stated that the clubhouse would be
restricted to Phase II owners and residents and guests.
This has been planned for several years and has been
reduced to bring it back into a budget that they can
afford. There will be a substantial re -landscaping
program and re -paving of a lot of the areas. The lower
level consists of the men's and women's locker rooms,
the management offices, reception area, aerobics room,
hot tubs, spa etc. along with some storage and
mechanical space for the opera+ion of the rental
management program. The second floor is a multi-purpose
room with a kitchen. They have designed the building to
compliment the exisiting construction, but somewhat
differ in a wav that is helpful. The building is pretty
much in keeping with the layout of the existing
buildings. Discussion followed on the request that the
building be located so as to allow for a future bike
path. Lamont described the areas for the future bike
path.
Donaldson also stated that they would work with the
Staff on the matter of handicap access.
Lamont reviewed the design review guidelines and
commented on each guideline in conjunction with this
application.
Lamont then reviewed the applicable goals, policies and
programs.
Cuny asked the Commission if they had any questions
about Mr. Lamont's report. She then asked Mr. Donaldson
if he had any questions or comments regarding the
report. Mr. Donaldson stated he would address any
questions the Commission might have regarding the
report.
Perkins stated that the Commision should look at how to
relocat> the building to provide the corridor between
the river and he felt that more information on the
parking lot was necessary. Discussion followed on the
parking as it is currently and as it is proposed. Wood
stated that one item that had been discussed as a
possible solution was the re-arrangment of the deck area
in the hot tub area along the ditch.
Discussion on the parking continued, in particular the
necessity for a fire safety area in front of the
building. Mr. Kraft stated that thr deletion of two or
three spaces right in front would be no problem, but any
more would not be workable.
Considerable discussion followed an the possible
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re -location of the building. Donaldson stated that they
could better re -design the hc.t tub area rather than try
to re-locatra the building itself.
Cuny asked about the materials to be used. Donaldson
stated that everything will match the existing
buildings_
Donaldson stated that there are a couple windows that
they realize are too targe and they will be de=signing
them smaller. They will take out about 25% of the window
area on the stair tower.
Discussion followed on the necessity for a children's
playground.
Doll suggested that a solution to the bike path problem
might be th=_t the ditch be filled with pipe and covered
as the ditches in Eagle Vail are.
Doll moved to grant Preliminary Design approval with the
following contingencies to be addressed before sinal
design is approved: 1. Give consideration to the north
side of the building to allow for bike path to be built
in the future. 2. Look into current drainage and
filtration system as it exists and modifications that
may need to be made in the future in order to accomodate
the project. 3.. Designation of an emergency lane in
front of the building to accomodate ambulance and/or
fire equipment. 4. Give consideration to handicapped
access into the building. 5. Consider the landscaping
design in front of the '-wilding.
Landauer seconded.
The motion carried unanimously.
Lot 3, Block E. Wildridge Subdivision, Otterman and
Associates, 20 Unit Condominium Project, Preliminary
Design Review and Lot v Block 5 Wildridge Subdivision,_
Otterman and Associates, 24 Unit Condominium _Project;
Preliminary Design Review
Wood stated that there are two projects that are very
similar, but are being treated as two separate actions,
in that the first project is located on Lot 3, Block 5,
Wildridge Subdivision and the other pr-ject is located
on Lot 6, Block 5, Wildridge Subdivision. Otterman and
Associates has applied for preliminary design review for
these two projects. Wood suggested that they go through
the Staff report on Lot u. The comments will be
virtually the same for both projects. Even thouoh it
will take two separate actions, the comments will. apply
to both projects. On Lot 3 a 20 unit project is
proposed. Lot 3 is currently --s=_i.gned 4 residential
development rights. This would be a fractionalized
project, having 20 one bedroom units, slightly under- 450
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square feet in each unit. The site area for Lot 3 is
approximately 40,510 square feet. The building area
proposed for this site is about 5250 square feet or
approximately 13% of site area. The building height is
approximately 31 feet. Approximately 57% of the site
will be open space. 35 parking spaces are proposed
which conforms with the zoning code for that number and
type of units. In general the site plan conforms with
parting and access requirements., Wood stated that there
are some other concerns that should be addressed in
going into the final design including Fire Department
access around the building, adequacy of water supply,
and another request from the Fire Department regarding
areas at each stairway accessing the parking lot be
designated as emergency access lanes. Wood stated that
those spaces have been treated as such on the plan and
those areas have not been counted in meeting the parking
requirements. Staff also felt that site ligh;-ing and
pedestrian circulation in the parking area were concerns
that should be addressed. The proposed project take=_
the parking lot right up to the building, with no
separation between parting and building at all. The
revised plans that have been submitted since the Staff
comments does include some lighting on the building, but
no provision has been made on getting lighting further
out into the parking lot and particularly the area of
the entrances. Another concern is that the site grading
plan shows regrading of the entire site. This would
destroy all the natural vegetation and require complete
re -vegetation of the site. 1.1e final grading and
drainage plan must address snow storage and treatment
facilities for parking lot runoff as required by the
zoning code.
Wood stated that in reviewing this project that the
Commission very thoroughly look at the design review
guidelines and whatever action is taken it should be
based upon those guidelines. Wood then stated the
guidelines to be considered. He stated that with
Wildridge there were no Goals, Policies and Programs
adopted for that area since it was a specially planned
area and a lot of it was determined through the
specially planned area and the plan for that site.
Cuny asked if the applicant had to get approval here
before going to the covenants committee or get approval
from the covenants committee before he come= before the
Commis -,ion. Wood stated that those are private
covenan`s and while the Staff tries co make the
applicant aware of those covenants, it is not part of
our review process or approval. The project has to be
reviewed based upon our own desigr: review guidelines.
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Mark Donaldson stated that he was representing Otterman
and Associates, who is working with a fcderal loan
program that is basically a 24 month window, from April
1, 1988 to April 1, 1990- There is a federally approved
program for rental housing projects. There has been
several mill?on dollars alloted and approved for the
State of Colorado and the Eagle County Extension agent
has researched and provided written material supporting
the need for this type of housing in the Eagle County
area for employees. The two sites have been combined
for the purposes of the federal loan program. It will
be a rental apartment project and will remain that for
15 years. That is the stipulation of the program. The
units are not for sale and are not really ror short term
rentals. They are rent restricted. They will be
constructed as condominiums and after 15 years they will
be for sale.
Hill asked if the covenants in Wildridge allowed this.
Donaldson stated ghat there were no restrictions in the
zone districts as far as rental projects are concerned.
Donaldson described the vehicular circulation on the
sites and snow storage. He stated that possibly a three
foot walkway could be provided along the buildings if
that would satisfy the Commission. Each unit is
accessed from the parking lot by one of the stairwells
whit;) is connected between each double unit. On Lot 3
the two southerly buildings are two stories high and the
two northerly buildings are three stories high. On Lot
6 all four buildings are three stories high. They all
have the same unit plan and same building layout.
Donaldson stated that there are large amounts of cut and
fill and revegetation to be done. He read a letter from
Ellison Design, addressed to the Planning and Zoning
Commission regarding the current vegetation on the site,
and suggestions regarding the grading and revegetation
of the sites. Donaldson provided photographs showing
the slope ano revegetation problems of the area.
Donaldson stated that the overall goal is to provide
approximate parking to all the units, control the
parking for snow storage, drainage and vehicular
circulation, etc. avid to keep the buildings as simply
positioned on the sites as possible. They prefer to
regra.de to match the existing slope so that they don't
have the stairstep with retaining walls.
Donaldson stated that the parking lot lights were
something that just has not been addressed at this
preliminary stage, but will provide detail information
on it at the final review.
Donaldson described to the Commission members various_
facets of the design of the buildings and the parking
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and the grading.
Donaldson stated that the Fire Department asked that on
Lot b, uphill from the parking lot, a fire break be
provided.
Lamont questioned the suitability of subsidized employee
housing in a Specially Planned Area, stating that when
zone districts were established Tract "P" was designated
for employee housing. He stated that a government
subsidized hou=_inj would encourage transient
economically unstable residents in a stable residential
subdivision which is remote from employment and personal
service centers and the remoteness may require
dependence on mass transporta'_ion to gain access to
employment and personal services.
Lamont also discussed compatibility with existing site
conditions, amenities, fire safety, sidewalks, building
mass, handicapped access, childrens playground, site
landscaping and wildlife habitat.
Lamont then reviewed and commented on the compatibility
of the desion to minimize site impacts on adjacent
properties, and with site topography. The visual
appearance as viewed from adjacent and neighhoring
properties was then reviewed. Lamont stated that the
mass of the three story flat roof structure is
inconsistent with the two and three story structures
with pitched roofs on adjacent properties as required by
subdivision design guidelines. Lamont stated that no
information or standards is presently available that
indicates that either the proposed use nor the
aesthetics of the improvement are so similar or
dissimilar to others in the vicinity that values,
monetary or aesthetic will be impaired. However, the
intent and language of the Fractionalization Ordinance
permits development rights to be fractionalized into a
"combination" of smaller units. The type and number of
units being proposed for the vicinity does not attain
the intent of the Fractionalization Ordinance.
The uniformity and amount of residential unit types
proposed may remove the desirability of a broader range
and quality of housing types that could be located on
adjacent properties and in the vicinity.
Lamont stated that insufficient information is presently
available to determine that the proposed improvement
conforms with the adopted goals, policies and programs
for the Town of Avon.
Lamont stated that employee housing was needed, where it
is located is critical and support services are critical
and what happens to the expansion and general
development of the neighborhood after the proje,.t goes
in is equally important.
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Terry Halverson commented that some guidelines need to
be established for lenders regarding what policies the
Commission will be following for the Wildridge area.
Cuny asked the Commission members if they had any
questions regarding Mr. Lamont's report.
Cuny stated that she did not like the design. She does
not like the flat ;ook or the modular style building and
she has trouble wit,i she stripping for regrading of the
entire lot.
Donaldson stated again that the regrading is to avoid
the use of retaining walls and the flat roof is to keep
maintenance to a minimum regarding snow. Pitched roofs
dump snow and it would be dumped on the balconies or in
the parking lot. He stated that they could offset the
buildings some and play up the stairwell roofs a bit
more. He stated he could provide some revised plans
incorporating some of the concerns the Commission has
regarding the design.
Cuny stated that another concern she has is that he has
maxed out the fractionalization ordinance, to possibly
not be exactly what the ordinance was meant to be.
Another concern she has is the size of the units and the
fact that the tBize would cause it to be transient in
nature as opposed to permanent residents.
Donaldson asked Norm Wood to share the verbal opinion
received from John Dunn regarding the fractionalization
issue.
Wood stated that the statement in the fractionalization
ordinance was to promote various size housing units for
both short term and long term area residents. The
regulation portion of the ordinance does not require any
specific mix. Wood stated that this is not a written
opinion on this matter, it is just a verbal opininon.
Wood stated that in the adoption of the ordinance the
intent was to promote a mix of units, however there were
no safeguards incorporated into the ordinance to
specifically prevent tt,is type of project. One other
issue regarding this particular project in the SPA zone
district, relating to subsidized, or public housing,
there is one zone that addresses public or private
employee housing only and that is Tract "P", which is
zoned GPEH. In the SPA, typically, uses allowed are
specifically identified in the land use plan. Uses,
unless specifically mentioned, are excluded from the
SPA plan. This is probably the most serious question
regarding this particular project.
Landauer asked if the applicant would consider a
mixture, rather than all one bedroom size?
Donaldson stated that the client has said ito and the
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reason is that they have a restricted rent rate in this
particular program.
Donaldsun stated he would like to focus on the design
rather than the unit mix, etc.
Perkins stated that he feels that the fract:ionaliza*ion
issue is getting out of hand and something needs to done
to correct the problem than seems to be developing.
He stated that this many one bedroom units does not sit
well with him. Discussion followed on the quantity of
two bedroom units that are now unrented and /or sold.
Perkins stated that he felt that this was a visually
hard project and he didn't reel that this is the kind of
statement to be made for the entry into Wildridge. If
the mix could be broken up the design could probably be
changed from the bony look.
Donaldson stated that he thought that the hardness could
be addressed without messing with the units.
Perkins stated that as the project has been presented he
cannot support it. It has to have a lot more creative
t-eatment than has been presented.
Donaldson stated that they could introduce some more
interesting architecture if that is what the Commission
desires.
Cuny asked if the applicant would like to continue the
application for a redesign of the buildings?
Donaldson stated that they would certainly like to have
that opportunity.
Landauer moved to continue the applications for both Lot
3, Block 5, and Lot b, Block 5, Wildridge Subdivision
until a further meeting for redesign of the project.
Doll seconded.
The motion passed unanimously.
Terry Halverson reiterated his previous comments and
discussion followed.
Perkins suggested that maybe the Commission should
recommend to the Council that they ought to review the
fractionalizztion legislation and possibly adding some
sort of ac.'_adum that addresses mix.
Lamont stated that one of the research issues that the
Staff and consultants will be dealing with is the zoning
language issue in terms of clarification. It may not be
the fractionalization that will be studied, but how the
Specially Planned Areas are dealt with.
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Reading and Approval of P & Z Minutes of 4/19/88 Regular
Meeting E
Doll moved to approve the minutes of the 4/19/88 minutes
as submitte:l.
Hill, seconded.
The motion carried unanimously.
With no other business to come before the Commission,
McRory moved to adjourn.
Landauer seconded.
The meeting was adjourned at 11:15 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
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Charlette Pascuzzi
Recording Secretary
Commiss
P. Luny
T. Land
F. Doll
J. Perk
D. Hill
C. MCRc
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