PZC Minutes 013080RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
MINUTES OF DESIGN REVIEW BOARD MEETING
JANUARY 30, 1980, 7:30 P.M.
The regular meeting of the Design Review Board for the Town of Avon
was held on January 30, 1980 at 7:45 P.M. in the Town Council Chambers
of the Town of Avon in the Benchmark Shopping Center, Avon, Colorado.
The meeting was called to order by Hugh Price, Chairman.
All Board Members were present.
The Chairman deferred the reading of the minutes until later in the
meeting in order for all members to have a chance to read them.
There being no business requiring consideration before the regularly
scheduled agenda, Item 01 was introduced.
Item #1. Avon Center at Beaver Creek. Lots 47-54. Bl
Bill McCoy represented Avon Center at Beaver Creek. Bill reviewed
the meeting on January 30, 1980 attended by URS, Mayor Alpi, Design
Review Board Chairman Hugh Price, and Avon Center at Beaver Creek
(please see attached memo from Avon Center). A slide show was pre-
sented showing the site of the project and variations in roof and
balcony designs. Avon Center stated that at the February 6, 1980
meeting they would present preferred studies or conclusions in detail
and expanded model size, their response to the four specific concerns
stated by Art Swords, URS (see attached memo, page three), and would
request conceptual approval of their design. Avon Center also stated
that the basic concept needs to be decided on as soon as possible.
From the Board: there is some question as to whether the Design
Review Board might review the interior mall because a vacation of lot
lines will be requested so that one large structure can be constructed
rather than separate buildings. The concern is not one of store fa-
cades but the light and dark contrasts, the movement of the interior
space. There is concern regarding the type of character of the Town
Center of Avon with buildings of this size. It was stated that people
come to this area to experience outside space - scale, articulation
and outside space need to be studied.
Art Swords of URS was introduced. Art stated their concerns: the
scale of the Town Center in the Town, that it is the focal point, its
massive scale and the Town's scale; have the developers been thinking
of their project in relationship to the Town as a whole, or just their
own project; URS will respond to what they see with the developments or
the Town - the function of the Town, looking at transportation, socio-
economic impacts; can the developments be related to human scale as
well as automobile scale; URS is interested in exterior and interior
space; the Board must decide what "conceptual" means. Art will be
at the February 6, 1980 meeting.
Item #2, Peregrine Properties, Sea Mountain. Inc.. Lot 62 -
David Towbin represented Peregrine Properties and requested conceptual
approval. The commercial area, which is at grade, opens up into the
building's own mall and into the public mall. The main access from
the mall is through a lobby. There are two levels of commercial space
and three levels of condos, a domq over the interior mall for year-
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was held on January 30, 1980 at 7:45 P.M. in the Town Council Chamfers
of the Town of Avon in the Benchmark Shopping Center, Avon, Colorado.
The meeting was called to order by Hugh Price, Chairman.
All Board Members were present.
The Chairman deferred the reading of the minutes until later in the
meeting in order for all members to have a chance to read them.
There being no business requiring consideration before the regularly
scheduled agenda, Item #1 was introduced.
#1. Avon Center at Beaver Creek. Lots 47-54. B1
Bill McCoy represented Avon Center at Beaver Creek. Bill reviewed
the meeting on January 30, 1980 attended by URS, Mayor Alpi, Design
Review Board Chairman Hugh Price, and Avon Center at Beaver Creek
(please see attached memo from Avon Center). A slide show was pre-
sented showing the site of the project and variations in roof and
balcony designs. Avon Center stated that at the February 6, 1980
meeting they would present preferred studies or conclusions in detail
and expanded model size, their response to the four specific concerns
stated by Art Swords, URS (see attached memo, page three), and would
request conceptual approval of their design. Avon Center also stated
that the basic concept needs to be decided on as soon as possible.
From the Board: there is some question as to whether the Design
Review Board might review the interior mall because a vacation of lot
lines will be requested so that one large structure can be constructed
rather than separate buildings. The concern is not one of store fa-
cades but the light and dark contrasts, the movement of the interior
space. There is concern regarding the type of character of the Town
Center of Avon with buildings of this size. It was stated that people
come to this area to experience outside space - scale, articulation
and outside space need to be studied.
Art Swords of URS was introduced. Art stated their concerns: the
scale of the Town Center in the Town, that it is the focal point, its
massive scale and the Town's scale; have the developers been thinking
of their project in relationship to the Town as a whole, or just their
own project; URS will respond to what they see with the developments or
the Town - the function of the Town, looking at transportation, socio-
economic impacts; can the developments be related to human scale as
well as automobile scale; URS is interested in exterior and interior
space; the Board must decide what "conceptual" means. Art will be
at the February 6, 1980 meeting.
Mountain. Inc
uavia iowDin represented Peregrine Prop
approval. The commercial area, which i
building's own mall and into the public
the mall is through a lobby. There are
and three levels of condos, a dome over
round use is a possibility, all of the
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erties and requested conceptual
s at grade, opens up into the
mall. The main access from
two levels of commercial space
the interior mall for year -
outer arc of commercial space
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is glass, an interior corridor is planned around the outer arc, the
building will be cantilevered columns system with rigid steel frame
over the commercial space. For more access to the mall, another lobby
can be added, or individual access to each shop from the mall.
The Board stated: conceptual approval will not be granted until the
plans are looked at by the Town and the consultants in more depth
than tonight's meeting time allows. In accordance with the Design
Review Board Rules and Regulations regarding provision for consult-
ant's fees, some of the consultant's time as pertains to this project
will be paid for by Peregrine Properties. Concern that this structure
does not relate to the mall or surrounding projects, access from the
mall (35 foot entrance, 550 foot long building) appears inadequate,
no loading or parking between the building and the mall, the feeling
that the two major Town Center projects are not compatible, the ques-
tion of whether this design or parts of it have been used before.
This project has been tabled for the time being.
ad. Addition to Mobile Home. Lot 1. Block 2
bencnmarK Subdivision, File No. 79-12-3.
The applicant did not appear. The manager of the Benchmark Mobile
Home Park on Lot 1, Duane Broyles, made a statement: Mark is essen-
tially putting a double -wide mobile home on a space zoned only for a
single -wide trailer, which is against the rules as stated in the trailer
park covenants. Dick Evans stated that the addition to Mark's trailer
does not meet the fire lane set back and there is a "stop work" order
on it. rhe Board made the decision to not overrule the trailer park
covenants. Dick Evans and Duane Broyles were directed to tell Mark
that his addition must be removed.
Revised Landscaping Plans, Lots 67 and 68, Block
At the December 19, 1979 meeting, the Board directed David Mack, City
Market to send revised landscaping and grading plans and the Board
would discuss them without requiring David to appear. Dick Evans
stated that the landscaping was practically doubled. Larry Kumpost
stated that it is in City Market's own best interests to further
reduce the grade. The Board: recommended that the grading must not
exceed 5'. and that a building permit not be issued until the grading
is revised to no more than 5;; that the grading not be reduced by
filling in, but terracing can be used; the drainage issue must be
addressed. Landscaping was granted approval.
Sun Eagle, Vacation of Lot Lines, Lots 111 and 112. Block 1
air. Densitv Reduction and Tran
an
Mike Blair stepped down to represent Sun Eagle and Sun Eagle and Mike
Blair. Hugh Price stated that no formal statement can be made because
the required 15 day notice period has not passed. Mike presented
plans to vacate the lot line between Lots 111 and 112 and construct
a single building. Also, from Lot 15 (300 - 400 feet away) the appli-
cant would like to subtract a unit and add it to Lots 111 and 112
(to construct a seven-plex building). The Board's concerns: the
Board may recommend that once unit(s) are taken off of a lot, that they
cannot be added again later and that a system should be devised to
keep track of the units added on and subtracted from lots; the appli-
cant will have letters from the utility companies vacating their ease-
ment. These plans will be presented formally on February 6, 1980.
ant's fees, some of the consultant's time as pertains to this project
will be paid for by Peregrine Properties. Concern that this structure
does not relate to the mall or surrounding projects, access from the
mall (35 foot entrance, 550 foot long building) appears inadequate,
no loading or parking between the building and the mall, the feeling
that the two major Town Center projects are not compatible, the ques-
tion of whether this design or parts of it have been used before.
This project has been tabled for the time being.
Item U. Mark
The applicant did not appear. The manager of the Benchmark Mobile
Home Park on Lot 1, Duane Broyles, made a statement: Mark is essen-
tially putting a double -wide mobile home on a space zoned only for a
single -wide trailer, which is against the rules as stated in the trailer
park covenants. Dick Evans stated that the addition to Mark's trailer
does not meet the fire lane set back and there is a "stop work" order
on it. The Board made the decision to not overrule the trailer park
covenants. Dick Evans and Duane Broyles were directed to tell Mark
that his addition must be removed.
Item #4. City Market
At the December 19, 1979 meeting, the Board directed David Mack, City
Market to send revised landscaping and grading plans and the Board
would discuss them without requiring David to appear. Dick Evans
stated that the landscaping was practically doubled. Larry Kumpost
stated that it is in City Market's own best interests to further
reduce the grade. The Board: recommended that the grading must not
exceed 5% and that a building permit not be issued until the grading
is revised to no more than 5%; that the grading not be reduced by
filling in, but terracing can be used; the drainage issue must be
addressed. Landscaping was granted approval.
Vacation of
Reduction and Trans
Mike Blair stepped down to represent Sun Eagle and Sun Eagle and Mike
Blair. Hugh Price stated that no formal statement can be made because
the required 15 day notice period has not passed. Mike presented
plans to vacate the lot line between Lots 111 and 112 and construct
a single building. Also, from Lot 15 (300 - 400 feet away) the appli-
cant would like to subtract a unit and add it to Lots 111 and 112
(to construct a seven-plex building). The Board's concerns: the
Board may recommend that once unit(s) are taken off of a lot, that they
cannot be added again later and that a system should be devised to
keep track of the units added on and subtracted from lots; the appli-
cant will have letters from the utility companies vacating their ease-
ment. These plans will be presented formally on February 6, 1980.
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Lot 3, Block 2, Benchmark Subdivision, File No. 79-10-1.
Brian Byrne represented Lake View Condos. Brian presented plans to
cover up the crossbracing presented January 16, 1980. The original
approval in July, 1979 was for fencing on the north side of the pro-
perty. The fence has been pulled in to become the siding on the
carports, the siding to be stained to match the buildings. The
carports are two structures, each 60 feet long, placed end by end.
The Board recommended a three foot high band around the buildings to
act as a fence and as a diaphragm to stiffen the carports, to open the
buildings down to rail height; and to eliminate the crossbracing.
Dick Evans stated that whatever is done will need the approval of a
structural engineer. Also, that if the Board does not come to a
decision quickly, he will have to condemn the buildings.
Other business - City Market: attention must be paid to drainage.
It is suggested that an analysis be made by an outside engineer of
a drainage system and retension system for that property. The analy-
sis will be reviewed and approved by the Town Engineer and the Building
Administrator.
An overall study of the drainage system of the entire Town, to be
aware of the liability involved in approving projects that will flood
out someone else.
Work session - guidelines are needed for the character the Board
wants for the Town Center to take. URS will address this issue in
their first phase. Also wantguidelines from a legal point of view.
Peregrine Properties - their design does not relate to a mountain area
and the pedestrian mall. The two large projects around the mall
creat a "through" mall rather than creating a town atmosphere - a
place to enjoy. Art, URS was requested to convey the Board's very
strong feelings that this area needs to be studied and to try another
design, Art will meet with Peregrine Properties tomorrow morning.
The Board will state the same at the February 6, 1980 meeting. The
Board does not have a direction to give this project until the report
comes back from URS and is studied.
Avon Center at Beaver Creek - It was suggested that they install
ramps from the mall to their underground garage. Their treatment of
elevation needs to be softened. The project does net need to be sev-
eral small buildings, but needs to take on the appearance of "more
organic placement of structure on ground". There is concern regarding
the abruptness of interface.
Peregrine Properties (PP) and Avon Center at Beaver Creek (AC/BC) -
the Board's strongest standpoint is that the projects are asking to
vacate lot lines to construct one large building. Possibly a letter
stating that the Board feels that "we have the right to turn down any
project that eliminates property lines in order to form one massive
structure...we have further right to dictate certain requirements
and will look to URS for what those requirements are". PP, AC/BC,
the Design Review Board and URS might form a design team to decide
on the character of the Town Center.
Conceptual approval - none will be granted to PP or AC/BC until the
study undertaken by URS is completed. Art, URS requested Chairman
Hugh Price to write letters to PP and AC/BC stating this and a separate
letter to PP stating that they need a different design.
The Design Review Board, URS and the Town Government will meet as
soon as they receive URS' report, the above letters will be sent in the
meantime.
A motion by Tom Landauer was made to approve the minutes as read,
seconded by Larry Kumpost and approved unanimously.
act as a fence and as a diaphragm to stiffen the carpurts, to open the
buildings down to rail height; and to eliminate the crossbracing.
Dick Evans stated that whatever is done will need the approval of a
structural engineer. Also, that if the Board does not come to a
decision quickly, he will have to condemn the buildings.
Other business - City Market: attention must be paid to drainage.
It is suggested that an analysis be made by an outside engineer of
a drainage system and retension system for that property. The analy-
sis will be reviewed and approved by the Town Engineer and the Building
Administrator.
An overall study of the drainage system of the entire Town, to be
aware of the liability involved in approving projects that will flood
out someone else.
Work session - guidelines are needed for the character the Board
wants for the Town Center to take. URS will address this issue in
their first phase. Also wantguidelines from a legal point of view.
Peregrine Properties - their design does not relate to a mountain area
and the pedestrian mall. The two large projects around the mall
creat a "through" mall rather than creating a town atmosphere - a
place to enjoy. Art, URS was requested to convey the Board's very
strong feelings that this area needs to be studied and to try another
design, Art will meet with Peregrine Properties tomorrow morning.
The Board will state the same at the February 6, 1980 meeting. The
Board does not have a direction to give this project until the report
comes back from URS and is studied.
Avon Center at Beaver Creek - It was suggested that they install
ramps from the mall to their underground garage. Their treatment of
elevation needs to be softened. The project does not need to be sev-
eral small buildings, but needs to take on the appearance of "more
organic placement of structure on ground". There is concern regarding
the abruptness of interface.
Peregrine Properties (PP) and Avon Center at Beaver Creek (AC/BC) -
the Board's strongest standpoint is that the projects are asking to
vacate lot lines to construct one large building. Possibly a letter
stating that the Board feels that "we have the right to turn down any
project that eliminates property lines in order to form one massive
structure...we have further right to dictate certain requirements
and will look to URS for what those requirements are". PP, AC/BC,
the Design Review Board and URS might form a design team to decide
on the character of the Town Center.
Conceptual approval - none will be granted to PP or AC/BC until the
study undertaken by URS is completed. Art, URS requested Chairman
Hugh Price to write letters to PP and AC/BC stating this and a separate
letter to iY stating that they need a different design.
The Design Review Board, URS and the Town Government will meet as
soon as they receive URS' report, the above letters will be sent in the
meantime.
A Yaotion by Tom 1_3ndauer was made to approve the minutes as read,
seconded by Larry Kumpost and approved unanimously.
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There being no further business, a motion was made by Mike Blair to
adjourn the meeting. It was seconded by Tom Landauer and Chairman
Hugh Price adjourned the meeting at 12:15 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Design Review Board
Recording Secretary