PZC Minutes 031798 (2)Record of Proceedings
Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes
March 17, 1998
Regular Meeting
The Regular Meeting of the Town of Avon Planning and Zoning Commission was called to
order by Chairperson Andrew Karow at 6:00 p.m., March 17, 1998, in the Council Chambers,
Avon Municipal Building, 400 Benchmark Road, Avon, CO 81620.
Members Present
Mike Dantas
Sue Railton
Anne Fehlner
Andrew Karow
Michael Schnieder
Beth Stanley
Agenda
Call to Order
Staff Present
Beth Salter, Recording Secretary
George Harrison, Planner
Steve Hodges, Community Service Officer
Karen Griffith, Planner
Mike Matzko, Community Development Director
Roll Call
All Commissioners were present except Chris Evens.
Additions and Amendments to the Agenda
Conflicts of Interest
Consent Agenda
A. Approval of the February 17, 1998 Planning & Zoning Commission Meeting
Minutes
B. Approval of the March 3, 1998 Planning & Zoning Commission Meeting
Minutes
Motion
Commissioner Stanley moved to approve Consent Agenda item A with Commissioner Karow
and Commissioner Railton abstaining and Consent Agenda item B with Commissioner Railton
and Commissioner Schneider abstaining. Commissioner Dantas seconded the motion.
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Concept Design Review
Lots 2 and 3, Block 3, Wildridge Subdivision - Schifanelli
Duplexes
Project Type: 2 duplexes
Property Owner: Schifanelli Enterprises
Consultant: Greg Macik, TAB Associates
Zoning: PUD Residential, 2 units each lot
Address 3150 and 3170 Wildridge Road
Karen Griffith addressed the board with comments from the staff.
Staff Comments
These are preliminary staff comments, and are not intended to be a complete project report. Final
comments will be provided with the final design staff report.
General Design Comments
1. The duplexes are designed with a "weak" attachment. While this provides a more articulated
massing of the buildings, it results in more site disturbance including wider coverage by the
buildings.
2. The design results in moderate site disturbance with cuts up to six feet. The buildings have
been sited for optimal views. Orienting the buildings more parallel to the slope may help to
minimize site disturbance.
3. The driveway "tie in" must be more perpendicular to Wildridge Road.
4. Grading on the north side of Unit 2 will result in drainage against the wall.
5. The driveway at Unit 1 has a low spot that will be unable to drain.
6. Site disturbance is proposed up to the southern property line. Care will need to be taken
during construction to ensure that the neighboring property is not disturbed.
7. Staff recommends that two evergreen trees be added on the northwest side of Unit 3 for
screening
Submittal Issues
1. The grading plan proposes using the natural underlying rock to support slopes that exceed
2:1. A report from a geologist or soil scientist will be needed to document that the rock can
support these steep slopes.
2. The topographic survey has a disclaimer note due to one foot of snow on the property at the
time of the survey. A new survey will need to be provided prior to the final design
application.
3. A complete description of colors and materials needs to be provided.
4. Details of proposed fences need to be provided.
Greg Macik, with TAB Associates said that there is a 60% grade at the entrance
This is why the buildings are so close to the property lines. We talked to the geologist and they
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said there would be no problem in writing a letter stating that the rocks can support the steep
slopes.
Commissioner Fehlner asked what was the possibility of twisting the house a little bit on the
property so as to cut down on the site disturbance.
Mr. Macik said that if the houses were tilted more perpendicular it would increase the site
disturbance.
Commissioner Fehlner noticed on the site plans that there is grading out, verses using retaining
walls to cut down on the site disturbance. She stated that the driveway is probably done with the
best solution and as far as the architecture of the house goes, it meets all our guidelines.
Commissioner Stanley said she would like to see some trees planted around the house on the
West and East elevations.
Commissioner Schneider agreed.
Commissioner Railton said there should be some trees planted on the street side of the house.
Commissioner Karow commented that this project seems to meet the eleven design review
criteria. He also stated the architecture meets all the design criteria, but as far as the 2 to 1 the
grading, the staff will have to receive a letter from a geologist. Grading on the north side of the
unit results in drainage against the wall. Unit one has a low spot, which will have to be worked
out. Commissioner Karow advised the applicant to respect the property line of the log house
behind the project.
Public Hearing
Parcels 1 and 2, Swift Gulch Addition
Project Type: PUD Amendment
Property Owner: Town of Avon
Applicant: Town of Avon
Consultant: RNL Design
Address: 500 Swift Gulch Road
Mike Matzko said the proposed amendments are to establish a new site plan and amend the
existing development standards. The new development plan follows the same basic pattern as the
existing plan, with buildings forming the southern perimeter of the site, and, in conjunction with
landscaping, serve as screening of interior operations that would otherwise be visible from I-70
and the town core. The development standards will be amended to exclude retaining walls from
building setback requirements.
Peter Einsel with R&L Designs presented a display board showing the layout of the buildings
and landscaping proposed for this site. The buildings are made of concrete block and stucco.
There will be a few skylights and some architectural features in the office buildings to help break
up the block effect.
Commissioner Fehlner asked the applicant if they are going to use the retaining walls to terrace
up. She also stated the landscape plans need to have more year round trees. The main building
that the public will see should be dressed up a little bit more.
Commissioner Stanley reiterated Commissioner Fehlner's comment saying that 3 small
evergreen trees are not sufficient, and the project needs more year around trees.
Commissioner Schneider said this site is not a very good choice for this project but it seems like
this is all we have to work with. He asked where the storage buildings going up the hillside
would be located, and how far up the hillside would they be.
Mr. Einsel said that the building would be located up the draw, about 9900 feet elevation.
Commissioner Dantas agreed with the rest of the Commissioners regarding year round trees. He
said he would like to see landscaping up past the storage sheds to hide these buildings.
Commissioner Railton said the white color would have to be cleaned every other day since it will
be a dusty site. She suggested tan colors. She agreed with the commission about the
landscaping and the trees, saying it looks very spotty.
Mr. Einsel said they are still working on the colors. The ones in the presentation represent close
to the final colors. The mullions around the windows are white; the doors will be white also. All
the brick work will be sealed.
Commissioner Karow said if we could do as the Town of Vail it would be great. They are doing
a great job hiding their buildings. Commissioner Karow said this is not an appropriate site for
this project according to the Town of Avon Comprehensive Plan. There is no conformity and
compliance with the over all theme of the town.
l .The design is not compatible with the environment, and the neighborhood
2. It is a great location for a facility like this because it is centrally located but
this is not the site for it.
3. This project does not provide functional and aesthetic landscaping,
Mike Matzko told the commission that while a couple of years ago he was very vocal in not
wanting this site used for this used for this purpose, after looking at a lot of other sites there does
not seem to be any better place for a facility like this.
Commissioner Railton said that we might as well approve this since this land will eventually be
developed.
Commissioner Fehlner did some independent research on other sites and other facilities similar
to this. Commissioner Fehlner stated some facilities are so far down valley that they are useless.
It does not make sense that Public Works or Transit drives down valley thirty minuets to do their
job. This is practical, but not necessarily aesthetic. She would like to see the Town go a lot
farther with the architecture.
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Mike Dantas agreed with Commissioner Fehlner about the site as working, but the town has rules
about covering up things like this.
PUD Amendment Resolution
Ann Fehlner moved that the Town of Avon approve Resolution 98-1, recommending that the
Town Council of the Town of Avon approve the amendment to the PUD Development Plan and
standards, for Parcels 1 and 2, Swift Gulch Addition, Town of Avon, Eagle County, Colorado
based upon the following findings:
1. That the proposed amendment is consistent with the Town's Comprehensive Plan.
2. That the proposed use is compatible with the surrounding area or uses.
Sue Railton Second the motion
Commissioner Schneider, Commissioner Karow, and Commissioner Stanley opposed
Commissioner Railton and Commissioner Fehlner and Commissioner Dantas approved the
motion.
Motion fails.
Tract Y Block 1, Benchmark at Beaver Creek Subdivision [Tab -
No report]
Project Type: Special Review Use for Parking
Property Owner: Town of Avon
Applicant: Town of Avon
Consultant: RNL Design
Address: 500 Swift Gulch Road
No actions were taken because the applicant has withdrawn the application.
Other Business
Staff Approvals
Lot 7, Block 3, Wildridge — Kahn roof modification
George Harrison updated the commission on the height violation. George stated the roof has
been cut back three and one half feet to bring the roof into conformance with the Town of Avon
standards.
Lot 17, Filing No. 1, Eaglebend Subdivision — Driveway Modification
George Harrison stated that the applicant is going to tear out their existing old driveway and put
in pavers and heat it.
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Lot 7, Block 5, Wildcat Ridge — Karen Griffith reminded the commission that this was the
project presented at last P&Z meeting asking to put a window in a chimney chase.
The applicant came back with a design showing windows on both sides of the chimney chase so
the staff approved it.
Karen Griffith asked the P&Z commissioners if they still wanted to have lunches served
whenever site tours were scheduled. Karen told the board that there has been a lack of
attendance for the site tours and when this happens these lunches become lunches for the staff
when this money could be used else where such as training.
The Commissioners agreed that staff should only order lunches for the commissioners that call in
by 12:00 a.m., Monday, the day before the P&Z scheduled tours.
Adjourn
Commissioner Fehlner moved to adjourn the meeting at 7:20 p.m. Commissioner Stanley
seconded the motion.
Respectfully Submitted
Beth Salter
Recording Secretary
M. Danta
C. Evans
A. Fehlner
S. Railton
C
M Schneider
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B. Stanley