PZC Minutes 041895RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
April 18, 1995
The regular meeting of the Town of Avon Planning and Zoning Commission was called to
order by Chairman Jack Hunn at 7:30 PM, April 18, 1995 in the Council Chambers, Avon
Municipal Building, 400 Benchmark Road, Avon, Colorado. All members present except
for Sue Railton, Bill Sargis, and Buz Reynolds.
Members Present: Jack Hunn, Patti Dixon,
Henry Vest, Rhoda
Schneiderman
Staff Present: Mike Matzko, Director
of Community Development,
Sheila Kremski, Recording
Secretary
CONSENT AGENDA
The following item was scheduled on the Consent Agenda:
1. Approval of April 04, 1995, Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
Minutes.
Mike Matzko described the Consent Agenda. Henry Vest moved to approve the consent
agenda. Seconded by Rhoda Schneiderman and the motion unanimously carried.
PUBLIC HEARING
Lot 47, Block 3, Wildridge Subdivision, Variance.
Mike Matzko stated the applicant is requesting a front yard setback variance due to the
extreme topography of his lot. The applicant is requesting a setback variance of 11 feet,
resulting in the structure being constructed 14 feet from the front lot line. Staff has two
main concerns being the two driveways on one site and in close proximity is not a
desirable access design and the "hammerhead" turnaround on the west driveway is within
the slope maintenance and snow storage easement, rendering it unreliable for use in the
winter. Staff recommends that the applicant revisit the access design, with the goal of
eliminating one curb cut.
Garrance Smith was the applicant present. Garrance had no comment.
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Lot 47, Block 3, Wildridge Subdivision, Variance (Con.'t)
Chairperson Hunn opened the public hearing. No comment. Public hearing closed.
The Commission noted the steepness of the lot supporting the setback variance, noting
only the garage would be in the setback and the living space was within the setback.
Henry Vest moved to approve Lot 47, Block 3, Wildridge Subdivision, Front Yard Set-
back Variance with the following findings:
FINDINGS:
A. That the granting of the variance will not constitute a grant of special privilege
inconsistent with the limitations on other properties classified in the same district;
B. That the granting of the variance will not be detrimental to the public health,
safety or welfare, or materially injurious to properties of improvements in the
vicinity;
C. That the variance is warranted for one or more of the following reasons:
1. The strict, literal interpretation and enforcement of the specified
regulation would result in practical difficulty or unnecessary physical
hardship inconsistent with the objectives of this title;
2. There are exceptional or extraordinary circumstances or conditions
applicable to the site of the variance that do not apply generally to other
properties in the same zone;
3. The strict or literal interpretation and enforcement of the specified
regulation deprive the applicant of privileges enjoyed by the owners of
other properties in the same district.
Seconded by Rhoda Schneiderman. Motion unanimously carries.
FINAL DESIGN REVIEW
Lot 73, Block 1, Wildridge Subdivision. Klein Duplex
Mike Matzko stated the comments of the staff report written by Mary Holden. The
applicants submitted plans for final design review of a single family residence with an
accessory unit. The residence will have three levels and stand approximately 37' high.
Staff recommends denial based on non-compliance with the maximum building height.
The applicant Paul Klein was present. The lowest portion of the lot from where the
measurement was calculated was 37' and the overall slope of the lot was 20%. The
reasoning for the placement of the home was generally based on the view corridors. Paul
would like some input on options to lower the home. Paul was questioning what may be
considered a steep slope.
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Lot 73, Block 1, Wildridge Subdivision Klein Duplex Con 't)
Chairperson Hunn explained the steep slope in the guidelines would be considered if the
slope were excess of 20%. Chairperson Hunn stated the applicant was on the boarder line
of this percentage.
The applicant wants to make the project work and is willing to do what is necessary. The
driveway slope is at the 10% maximum. Exterior lighting would be as low impact as
possible but enough to be safe. Driveway will be a concrete finish. All landscaping will be
irrigated with a drip system. The caretaker apartment is about 40% of the basement with
own entrance and garage access with 1 space in garage dedicated to the caretaker unit.
Rhoda Schneiderman questioned if there was living space above the garage and the stucco
finish.
Applicant replied no. All the space is open. The stucco finish will be a rough sand called
a worm finish.
Chairperson Hunn finds project attractive and only with a concern about the height of the
building. Chairperson Hunn requested staff check height calculation and see if there is a
way to interpret within the 35' maximum by calling it a steep slope if it is on the
borderline. If a variance is required it must go through the proper process but keep in
mind only one height variance has been granted in Wildridge. Applicant should work with
staff on a solution.
Rhoda Schneiderman moved to approve Lot 73, Block 1, Wildridge Subdivision with the
following conditions:
1. A revised site plan be submitted to staff to show the revised building height not
to exceed 35' if cannot conform be brought back for the variance process,
2. The lighting plan be approved by staff,
3. Landscape material be of town standards with a drip system be installed for all
vegetation.
Seconded by Patti Dixon. Motion unanimously carries.
Lot 70, Block 1, Wildridge Subdivision Deck Modification
Mike Matzko stated this is an expansion of a deck on an existing residential duplex. The
current deck is approximately 100 sq. ft. in area, and the proposed deck is approximately
400 sq. ft. The old deck will be removed, and the new deck constructed of redwood. The
elevation was not provided to show the impact of changes on the site.
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Lot 70, Block 1, Wildridge Subdivision Deck Modification, (Con.-:!)
The applicant Arthur Myers was present. He described the project as a simple deck
addition wrapping around the home to connect the decks. Deck is elevated, 17' to 18'
high. Matching the new deck to the existing deck.
Rhoda Schneiderman questioned staff if the town would require building plans for this
project.
Mike Matzko said yes as to detailed plans.
Rhoda Schneiderman was unclear on how the patio would meet the deck and it looks as if
there is some sort of walk.
The applicant explained the transition would be flat using redwood. Mr. Myers
commented he did not know how complicated the process was to just build a deck in the
town.
Patti Dixon moved to approve Lot 70, Block 1, Wildridge Subdivision, Deck Modification
subject to staff review of final drawings.
Seconded by Rhoda Schneiderman. Motion unanimously carries.
Lot 41, Block 2 Wildridge Subdivision Schurensteat Duplex
Mike Matzko stated the applicant was present for Final Design Review of project. Staff
recommends the Commission carefully consider the impact of reducing the 25 foot setback
along Bear Trap Road. At a minimum, the site plan and landscape plan should be revised
to reflect the concerns in the staff report and submit for the next meeting.
Chairperson Hunn clarified the lot is surrounded by three sides and the applicant is
requesting that the Commission consider determining that there is a rear yard setback of
10' as opposed to 25'.
The applicant Rex Schurensteat was present. Rex spoke with Mary Holden and she
suggested asking the Commission for the setback. The only thing that will fall into the
original 25' setback would be the deck of the second level. The actual building will still
remain in the original 25' setback. Rex did not redesign allowing him to keep the building
at a certain mass and to leave the lot undisturbed.
Chairperson Hunn noted that it appears the asphalt is quite a distance from the property
line. So the real distance from the deck if it were permitted to encroach to the edge of the
asphalt is pretty significant. So there is some distance between the road and the deck.
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Lot 41, Block 2, Wildridge Subdivision Schurensteat Duplex Con 't)
Chairperson Hunn stated that procedurally this approach has not been done. Typically a
variance is requested for decks to encroach on setbacks and there is a precedence for this.
If it is determined that this is a 10' setback, years from now someone could propose
building mass in that area.
The applicant would prefer not to ask for a variance.
Chairperson Hunn noted that the lot does have a unique circumstance that it is fronted by
two roads. But the area does have other properties with this situation and may see other
requests for the same interpretation, which creates an opportunity.
Chairperson Hunn asked about the grade and width of the driveway.
Rex responded with a total grade of 5% and a width of 12' but would change to the 14'
recommended by the town.
Chairperson Hunn felt uncomfortable interpreting the setback at less than 25', due to the
precedent that might be set. It looks like a mirrored image duplex which is well disguised
in the front and not at all in the back. If the design responded to the constraints of the
site, and respected the 25' setback, it would lead to a solution away from a mirror image.
He suggested shifting the building, for instance the west unit further south which may
allow for more privacy for a deck and less of a mirror image of a project. Chairperson
Hunn was also concerned with the east elevation and its fairly visible blank walls that are
visible from the road.
Rex described the main body of the project as an oyster white with a darker tan colored
stucco. The roof is a wood shake.
Rhoda Schneiderman moved to table Lot 41, Block 2, Wildridge Subdivision, FDR.
Seconded by Patti Dixon. Motion unanimously carried.
Lot 4, Nottingham Station, Buildings B C and D FDR
Mike Matzko addressed the staff report created by Mary Holden which stated the
applicant is requesting Final Design Approval for Buildings B,C and D. Each building
contains 8 units for a total of 24 units. At the April 4, 1995 Commission meeting, this
project was conceptually reviewed. The main comments included the massing of the
buildings and mirror image. Staff recommends to table until a phasing and lighting plan
are submitted.
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Lot 4 Nottingham Station Buildings B C and D FDR (Con 't)
Ed Smith and Gordon Pierce were present on behalf of the applicant, Shapiro
Development. A paving proposal was not submitted but there was a proposal within the
PUD submittal which was approved. That proposal basically said it would start with
Building B and build the next phase adjacent to that building. The lighting is shown on the
landscape plan but not well marked and easily overlooked. The applicant took the
comments made by the Commission at the previous meeting to improve upon this
submittal. One suggestion was to increase the offset between the buildings, look at the
eve or a -lines and try to cut the apparent height of the dormers on the south side of the
building, add variation to the riverside decks, lowering the eve lines to show how it would
effect the elevations, and lastly to restudy the color palate for the buildings (adding color,
changing color, intensifying color, ect.).
Ed Smith explained the packet to show how they mixed and added variety to the project
both in terms of changing materials. Lighting at the building site is either low or with
concealed sources and asking it as a condition to work with the lighting contractors to
present the best lighting plan.
Gordon Pierce explained the colors chosen for the building. Presented were three distinct
palates. The B Building is the center palate with a richness to the red and a stronger depth
of color, the seconded building with a gray palate, and the third building with a warmer
palate. Plan on painting the base of all the buildings a stone color, up to the first floor.
Ed Smith discussed the subdivision improvements which will be negotiated with the Town
Council and Town Staff in the next two weeks. The infrastructure will be almost all built
with the first phase of the project, concurrent with the first building. Continue Hurd Lane
through Eaglebend Drive, continue the bike path through, landscaping through the bike
path and the right-of-way, the street lighting, bus stop and benches. Parking and driveway
will be completed with each group of buildings.
Rhoda Schneiderman requested if any changes were made to the west and elevation to
building D. Rhoda complemented the projects choice of colors. Although the changes
were not substantial.
The applicant explained the only changes made to the end elevations was building C to
increase the offset.
Chairperson Hunn felt the applicant has put in a lot of effort and has responded to the
Commission comments from the last meeting. Although the mass of the buildings could
step back a bit more from the river. The changes have added a lot of variety and changed
the perception of how this buildings will be viewed.
Chairperson Hunn requested the landscape material proposed.
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Lot 4, Nottingham Station, Buildings B C and D FDR, (Con.'t)
Steve Machino was present to discuss the landscape details. A 3" caliber tree was studied.
It was discovered that a 3" caliber cottonwood is not normally grown and hard to
transplant at that size. More damage will be done to the existing vegetation than to plant
a 2" and do much less damage. The cottonwoods are shown at a 5 year growth period.
Chairperson Hunn asked how the trash will be handled for Phase I.
The applicant replied dumpsters will be attached to the garages at the parking lot level
with a full enclosure and roof.
Chairperson Hunn inquired about the number of parking spaces.
The applicant answered more than required for Phase I.
Henry Vest moved to approve Lot 4, Nottingham Station, Buildings B,C, and D, Final
Design Approval, with the following conditions:
CONDITIONS:
1. Infrastructure improvements which include but are not limited to sidewalk,
street improvements, landscaping, parking, drainage, grading, and utilities
connections be brought back to staff.
2. Project lighting plan be brought back for Commission review.
Chris Eckrem of 4130 Eaglebend Drive, Avon, has been watching this project carefully
and had some questions. How close the buildings are along the east -west staging.
The applicant replied with a minimum of 15' between buildings.
Chris Eckrem wanted to know who was responsible for construction of Hurd Lane and
when Hurd Lane will be constructed.
Chairperson Hunn responded his understanding would be that the developer would
construct the road to town standards and would complete it with the delivery of Phase I
before the units would be occupied.
The applicant said that the developer, Shapiro Development, would be responsible for the
subdivision improvements.
Chris Eckrem was concerned about the speed of the construction vehicles and also the
destruction of the road. It was communicated to her by Town Council that the road
would be resurfaced. Can there be a speed and weight limit for that road (Eaglebend
Drive).
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Lot 4, Nottingham Station, Buildings B C, and D FDR Con.'t)
Chairperson Hunn responded that the Wildridge Subdivision has the same problem. Some
of the residents of Wildridge have approached the Town Council with there concerns and
intend to get a petition circulated to get some action to resolve the problem. Hunn felt
this matter could be taken up as a police matter rather than a Design Review issue.
Seconded by Patti Dixon. Motion carries. Rhoda Schneiderman opposed.
Lot 3, Nottingham Station, Final Design Review
Mike Matzko stated the applicant has submitted the final design approval. The project
appears to conform with the preliminary design submitted for the PUD approval process,
and in general to the Town Subarea Design Recommendations specific to Subarea 9. Staff
has several concerns listed in the staff report.
Mark Donaldson was present on behalf of applicant, Wintergreen Homes. All four
buildings are being represented for Final Design Approval for this meeting with a total of
69 units. Two different color schemes for all buildings. The materials are the
Owens/Corning fiberglass oakridge roof. Wood is broken up in vertical and horizontal
with different tones in each of those. The common colors throughout are the dark wood
for the soffits, facias, all the balcony railings and the projecting wood treatments from all
the framing. The wood siding, with the vertical and the horizontal different tones to break
the massing. This project has stayed well on track since the beginning of the PUD
process.
Steve Machino was present on behalf of the applicant. The cottonwoods will be left as is.
More native shrubs will be brought in. A large green belt may be encouraged as a playing
field for the children. Shrubs along split rail fence to tie in with Lot 4, Nottingham
Station.
Chairperson Hunn asked if the landscape was irrigated with an automatic system.
Applicant replied yes, it is an irrigated automatic system.
Chairperson Hunn questioned the proposal with regard to the fence along railroad right-
of-way.
Mark answered that they would be open to any discussion. The wall would have to be
safe as well as a sound barrier. But would like to stay with a wood fence.
Chairperson Hunn inquired about the weight of the asphalt roofing product proposed.
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Lot 3, Nottingham Station, FDR, (Con.'t)
Mark explained that the manufacturer does not put the weight in their literature anymore.
It is an oakridge with the layered, 3 -tab style.
Rhoda Schneiderman requested a sample of the driftwood color. The color on the model
was very pink and would like to see an actual sample. The south facade looks fine and.
with the changes in setback along Hurd Lane and it curving around you do not see it as a
straight shot of the same buildings. Hopefully low lighting will be applied within safety
concerns
Henry Vest questioned how high the fence by the railroad and trash collection.
Mark thought the railroad commission requires a 6' to 8' but he will check on that. It will
be the minimum height but no taller. Trash collection will be individualized curb service.
Chairperson Hunn inquired about meeting the towns parking requirements including the
guest parking spaces and has an area been designated for a park or open space activity
area.
Mark replied that this has been done. The areas were indicated to the Commission
physically on the site plan as to the location of the activity area.
The Commission questioned if the applicant would consider using a synthetic stucco
instead of the panelized stucco product proposed.
Mark felt that it sounds like the Commission would prefer the synthetic product but the
cost effectiveness would justify the choice.
Mark commented the fireplaces would be gas.
Henry Vest moved to approve Lot 3, Nottingham Station, Final Design Approval, with
the following conditions:
CONDITIONS:
1. Fencing, lighting, and signage be brought back to Commission for approval.
2. Roof material for buildings 1 and 3 be brown wood;
3. A curb and cutter be installed_
4. Stucco be used on the chimney stack and sides vs. the hardy plank;
Seconded by Patti Dixon. Motion carried. Rhoda Schneiderman nay.
Tract P, Block 2. Benchmark at Beaver Creek Subdivision
Mike Matzko stated the applicant, Upper Eagle Valley Regional Water Authority,
submitted to upgrade its water treatment facility. The existing building is approximately
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Tract P, Block 2, Benchmark at Beaver Creek Subdivision (Con.'t)
135,000 square feet, and will be expanded by approximately 7,200 s. f. on the south side,
and 1700 s.f on the west side. Also included in the project is a raw water intake and
pump station, including a 730 s.f and an intake structure in the river. The pump station is
located about 1000 feet to the south and east of the water treatment facility. Staff
recommends approval with the additional application elements listed under Staff
comments.
The applicant had no comments.
Chairperson Hunn asked where does the pump station physically relate to the plant.
This part of the tape was untranscribable due to the applicant not speaking into the
microphone.
Rhoda Schneiderman moved to approve Tract P, Block 2, Benchmark at Beaver Creek
Subdivision, Final Design Approval with the following conditions:
CONDITIONS:
1. Building colors brought back to the Commission;
2. Exterior building lighting plan brought back to the Commission;
3. Final placement of the fence to be approved by Staff.
Seconded by Henry Vest. Motion unanimously carried.
Lot 47, Block 3, WildridQe Subdivision
Mike Matzko stated the project is a single family home, on three levels, totaling 3,324 s.f.
Exterior is stucco, with metal -clad windows and asphalt shingle roof. Accompanying this
application is a request for a front yard setback variance. Staff recommends that the
access issues be addressed prior to final approval.
The applicant Garrance Smith was present. No comments.
The Commission questioned materials of landscape plan. It looks as if the landscaping is
concentrated on the front of the house and nothing on the sides.
Rhoda Schneiderman moved to approve Lot 47, Block 3, Wildridge Subdivision, Final
Design Approval with the following conditions:
CONDITIONS:
1. A landscape plan brought back to the Commission with a total 360 degree plan;
2. Color samples brought back with a recommendation that one or two of the
elevations be colored in with the correct colors;
The culvert be extended from edge driveway to edge of driveway;
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Lot 47, Block 3, Wildridge Subdivision (Con.'t)
4. Meters be placed on the buildings;
5. All flues, flashings and vents be painted to match the building and or roof.
Seconded by Patti Dixon. Motion unanimously carried.
OTHER BUSINESS
1) Lot 30, Block 2, Wildridge Subdivision, Ambrosio Residence
Both Tommy Ambrosio and Bruce Canton were present.
Tommy explained that both of them had communicated in the past before any construction
had begun. Tommy has picked up his building permit and has begun to move some
ground around and has realized that the two houses would be much to close. Rather than
coming towards the road and putting it close to the road and also keeping the houses fairly
close together at that point Tommy has decided instead to go to the north of Bruce's
house and that put Tommy further away from the road. Tommy revised the site plan and
turned them into Staff. Basically the footprint of the building and the elevations are
staying the same except for a longer driveway and Tommy will be further away from the
road. The floor elevations were raised slightly to accommodate the longer distance that
the sewer has to travel.
Rhoda Schneiderman questioned if the building height changed.
Tommy replied that the overall height from grade had not.
Chairperson Hunn inquired about the grade of the driveway.
Tommy answered it was 2%.
Chairperson Hunn was concern that there may not be enough asphalt paving outside of the
garage doors to maneuver a car to turn around in that vacinity to avoid having them back
up all the way up that driveway to the road, enter the road, and curve.
Tommy explained he has left it the same as when it was approved for the final design
review.
Chairperson Hunn gave Tommy suggestions for better maneuvering in order not to back
out the driveway. Maybe modifying the boulder wall to create a hammerhead.
Tommy told the Commission that he has revised the site plan many time with Norm Wood
to work with him. Eventually Norm came up with a retaining concrete wall.
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Lot 30, Block 2, Wilridge Subdivision, Ambrosio Residence (Con.'t)
The Commission preferred a step of retaining wall of 6 feet rather than one wall of 13 feet.
Bruce Canton explained that he was very pleased with Tommy's decision to move the
home.
Rhoda Schneiderman moved to approve Lot 30, Block 2, Wildridge Subdivision,
Ambrosio, a revised site plan with the following recommendations:
1. Staff review the site plan,
2. Line demarcation showing areas of disturbance be added;
3. Strongly advise an enlarged turnaround area in the driveway to backing out;
4. Advise the 13 foot concrete retaining wall be split and stepped back to allow
for landscape materials to be included.
Seconded by Patti Dixon. Motion unanimously carried.
2) Chairperson Hunn thanked Patti Dixon for her serving on the Avon Planning and
Zoning Commission.
3) Beth Stanley has been appointed by the Avon Town Council as the new memeber of
the Avon Planning and Zoning Commission.
4) Mike Matzko had some suggestions for process that might take some load off of Staff.
Having the applicant reduce the site plans and provide extra copies was one suggestion.
Commission preferrs smaller site plans prior to the meeting and eliminates the larger sets
being flipped through during the meeting which does cause a disturbance.
Mike suggested a two week submittal for conceptual review.
Commission agreed.
Mike asked the Commission about context. How can Staff better provide context to the
Commission.
Chairperson suggested photographs if no site visit is done.
Rhoda Schneiderman felt that on the site plan showing the adjacent structures on adjacent
properties. Maybe the Tommy Ambrosio and Bruce Canton's conflict could have been
avoided if this was provided from the very begining.
Chairperson Hunn preferred photographs to Rhoda's suggestion because of the cost to the
applicant.
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4) Mike's suggestions (Con.'t)
Mike suggested that two photographs be taken from different angles and then have the
applicant indicate with an X on the site plan where the photos are taken from.
Commission agreed.
Mike in the future would like the applicant to take the town's base map and incorporate it
into their topography and provide it to the applicant at a reduced cost.
The Commission would encourage in some way the applicant be more informed of the
process to better prepare them for the meetings. For instance, drawings, color samples,
everything needed for a final design review.
ADJOURNMENT
Meeting adjourned at 11:30 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Sheila Kremski
Recording Secretary
Commission Approval
B. Sargis
S. Railton
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