PZC Minutes 030502 (2)Minutes of Planning & Zoning Commission
March 5, 2002
6:00 PM
Council Chambers
Town of Avon Municipal Building
400 Benchmark Road
AGENDA
I. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 6:05 PM
II. Roll Call
All Commissioners were present except Commissioner Klein.
III. Additions and Amendments to the Agenda
Item number IX was added to the agenda, a modification to final design for Lot 21 Block 1
Wildridge. .
IV. Conflicts of Interest
None
V. Consent Agenda
The February 5,2002 and February 19, 2002 Planning & Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes,
were approved unanimously with Chairman Evans and Commissioner Karow abstaining.
VI. SPECIAL USE REVIEW - HOME OCCUPATION - DAYCARE
Lot 45, Block`2, Wildridge
2520 Old Trail Road Unit B
Applicant: Robert and Jennifer Mach
Tambi Katieb, Planner II gave the staff presentation for the daycare.
Commissioner Sipes asked about the dimensions of the fenced in area. Staff responded that
the fenced in area was on the applicant's property. Chairman Evans asked about the future
development mentioned on the site plan. Staff stated that there was another duplex to be built
in the future on Lot 45. Chairman Evans opened public comment, and seeing no public
comment, closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Karow moved to approve Resolution 02-01 granting a Special Review Use
Permit for Lot 45, Block 2, Wildridge Subdivision (Grandview PUD) to operate a daycare as
described in the plans dated February 26, 2002 for a time period of one year, with the following
conditions:
1. This approval is for a daycare at Unit B only.
2. Drop-off and pick-up of children is required to be staggered at 10 minute intervals,
and client parking during this time may not block or otherwise interfere with the
access to Unit A and the future duplex.
3. No more than six (6) infants and toddlers inclusive of applicants own children per day
are allowed.
4. No employees shall be allowed to work on the property on a regular basis.
5. A State of Colorado license for infant and toddler day care is required.
6. A Town of Avon Business License is required.
7. Approval is valid for one year and renewal is subject to Planning and Zoning
Commission review.
8. Except as otherwise modified by this permit approval, all material representations
made by the applicant or applicant representative(s) in this application and in public
hearing(s) shall be adhered to and considered binding conditions of approval.
Commissioner Sipes seconded the motion. The motion was approved unanimously.
VII. FINAL DESIGN COMPLIANCE - BARRANCAS
Lots 38, 40, and 41, Block 1, Benchmark at Beaver Creek
0491 and 0511 Metcalf Road
Applicant: Tanavon/Fieldstone Development
Tambi Katieb made staffs presentation, which included pictures from the mock up and a fly -by
provided by the applicant.
Andrew Royster, from Fieldstone, asked if there were any questions.
Commissioner Wolfe summarized that the I Beam was too narrow and details of the finished
treatments need to be clarified. The green color is too bright and needs to be toned down, in his
opinion.
Commissioners Karow and Macik had no comments.
Commissioner Sipes stated that the green should be more sage like in appearance, muted not
so vibrant, especially considering that the design is already very modem and untypical.
Generally, the detailing on the comers needs to be specified such as the flying elements roofs
over stairs etc. The trash enclosure should be made of pressure treated wood. Commissioner
Sipes asked Chairman Evans how the connection would work with the stucco and metal. The
depth of the mockup needs to be worked on.
Commissioner McClinton stated that the colors are his biggest concerns. The colors are
supposed to be more subdued. The connections between the comers of the galvalume must be
clarified as well as the soffit underneath the corrugated on the front elevations.
Chairman Evans agreed with the comments about the colors. They are too vibrant for the site
and he expects them to be closer to the color elevations submitted at the final design hearing.
The mockup was too simple, it must have more details.
Rick Dominic, from Fieldstone, asked if details that were submitted are acceptable. Chairman
Evans stated that he would prefer to see them on the building. Commissioner Sipes stated that
the execution of the details is what is important.
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Commissioner Karow asked if this could be an approval like Lot C. Ruth Borne, Director of
Community Development, stated that the mockup for Lot C was postponed and the details were
approved after the building permit was issued.
Mr. Dominick asked about galvalume and soffit details, would it be possible to be done during
construction?
Though this was not a public hearing, Chairman Evans asked if any members of the public
present would like to comment on the proposed design and the mock up. Pat Hearn, resident of
Wildridge, was concerned with the green metal and white windows. He doesn't like the colors.
Mr. Dominic stated that the green and white relates to the spruce trees covered with snow,
which are found in our local environment. Commissioner Sipes pointed out that the snow would
be on sage not evergreens, which would correspond to the site's specific context.
Chairman Evans stated that perhaps the Commission should go one by one down the list of
items for a straw poll of approval. Commissioner Macik is abstaining from approving the details
one by one. The Commission decided not to do the straw poll.
Commissioner Wolfe has concerns with items K. The landscaping is not acceptable especially
the tree sizes and the locations.
Commissioners Karow and Macik have no comments.
Commissioner Sipes still has concerns with the colors.
Commissioner McClinton is concerned with the colors and comer connections.
Chairman Evans states that the colors are not similar to the final design proposal and they
should be. Additionally, details for the comers and soffits need to be provided.
Mr. Dominic states that the colors may not be correctly perceived on such a small scale. The
green is the standard color produced by the manufacturer. Chairman Evans replied that the
colors are not being represented as proposed. Commissioner Sipes asked about the producers
of other colors. Chairman Evans added that possibly one side of the building could be used as a
mockup.
Ruth Borne asked if the lighting fixture was acceptable? The Commission responded that it was
closer to the requirements, but still not a full cut-off fixture as required by the guidelines.
Chairman Evans made a motion to approve the submittal with the following exception that
colors, comer and soffit details to be approved later. Commissioner Sipes seconded the motion.
All Commissioners except Commissioner Macik approved the motion.
VIII. SIGN DESIGN
Lots A, Avon Center at Beaver Creek
100 West Beaver Creek Boulevard
Applicant: Timeshares, Inc.
Commissioner Sipes asked about the neon in the sign. Staff responded that there are other red
signs and that the neon was inside of the letters.
Commissioner Macik moved to approve the application with the following conditions:
1. The trim caps are changed from gold to black.
2. The letter faces must be white.
Commissioner Wolfe seconded the motion. The motion was approved unanimously.
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IX. OTHER BUSINESS
Minor Project
Lot 21 Block 1 Wildridge
2165 Saddleridge Loop
Applicant: Jim Aden, Homecrafters
Modification to Final Design - change to one ridgeline.
Ruth Borne gave the staff presentation and added that the applicant was fined for making
changes without approval.
Jim Aden, applicant, stated that he didn't know that he needed to submit revised plans, and that
they needed this application because the party wall was built incorrectly.
Chairman Evans asked what the pitch was now. Mr. Aden responded that it was still close to
6:12.
Commissioner Sipes asked if the standard construction documents were given to the applicant
prior to construction. Staff responded that they were.
Pat Hearn, asked what the height actually was and if it could go any higher. He stated that he
didn't want to allow it higher. Staff responded that the height was at 34.6 feet.
Chairman Evans asked if this was the only change being made. Mr. Aden stated yes.
Commissioner Wolfe asked if the different pitches would have been allowed during the original
DRB. The Commission responded that it would not have. Chairman Evans stated that there
have been other occasions that this has happened. Commissioner Karow stated that even
when something is brought for review, whether it has been built or not, should review as a
proposed development. Chairman Evans stated that was correct.
Commissioner Sipes asked about the party wall. Mr. Aden stated that it was poured incorrectly
and that the pitch was very close to 6:12.
Chairman Evans asked for additional information. Staff stated that they could provide more and
to table it to later this meeting. Commissioner Sipes moved to table and Commissioner Karow
seconded the motion. Approved unanimously.
Chairman Evans opened the review again. Chairman Evans stated that the change is actually
affecting two ridgelines.
Commissioner McClinton stated that to comply with the approved plans would be a great
hardship however, approval should have happened prior to the action.
Commissioner Sipes stated that this is a good argument for the compliance deposit. He also
asked if the company have generally been quality contractors. Staff replied that they have
been.
Commissioner Macik has no problems with the application.
Commissioner Karow stated that the application does not comply with items 4,5, and 6 of the
design criteria.
Commissioner Wolfe does not approve it just because it was a mistake.
Chairman Evans, he agrees with many of the comments. The applicant understands what the
rules are now. He agrees with the statement that the multiple roof pitches would not have been
approved originally, however this change is not an adverse impact. He agrees that this is the
one change as a mistake. There will be no further leniency for other problems.
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Mr. Aden stated that he did come in faithfully for this item but did not fully understand the
process. He didn't believe that the pitch would make a difference to the design approval.
Commissioner Wolfe stated that the mistakes must stop sometime. When is that time?
Commissioner Sipes stated that this is exactly the type of situation that the compliance deposit
was adopted for, and that few if any contractors would make assertions about design changes
when a deposit with the Town. There have been many other battles that were better to fight.
Chairman Evans states that the message must be sent but this may not be the right time.
Jim McVey, investor and realtor, respects what the Commission is doing. He thinks that this
(house) is a good product. Chairman Evans states that the problem is the roofs and the pitch
and the change to the approved design without explicit permission from the Town.
Commissioner Macik made a motion to approve the modification to final design and
Commissioner Sipes seconded it. The motion passed 4 to 2 with Commissioners Wolfe and
Karow opposing.
X. ADJOURN
Ruth Borne commented that four of the Commissioners' terms were expiring and that
applications needed to be received by March 15, 2002. Commissioner Sipes moved to adjourn
the meeting. Commissioner Macik seconded the motion. The motion was passed unanimously.
The meeting adjourned at 7:59 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Eric Johnson
Acting Recording Secretary
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